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6 minutes ago, Perspective said:
I thought recruiting was illegal.
It is illegal for coaches to approach players from outside their school district. It doesn't prevent players talking to players from other teams and then manipulating the open transfer policy our state legislature recently adopted. Suddenly, you have several players with different last names living in one home. Hmmm! It can't happen unless the coaches encourage and accept it.
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On 9/6/2019 at 9:27 PM, Jags904 said:
I just don’t know of any successful private school that is doing that. That was my point.
Bishop Moore Catholic HS plays in 5A without the benefit of transfer recruits or scholarships. If an athlete wants to attend Bishop Moore, they have to pay the $14K tuition each year. Still, their schedule includes teams like 7A Edgewater and 5A Jones, the top two ranked teams in Central Florida (both recruit the area heavily), as well as nationally ranked Archbishop Spalding (Maryland/DC), who also heavily recruits the Mid-Atlantic area. Without a change in scheduling philosophy, it will become increasingly more difficult for BM to compete successfully in non-district 5A games. Recruiting will eventually destroy football at the "regular" high schools.
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12 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Let me reword it. If any public Brevard played this weekend then it was a dick move to screw Osceola out of a game.
Key word being if
The cancellation of games was not left to the discretion of the coaches. School district administrations and decisions of state and local governments made it impossible for teams to practice when the schools were closed. Coaches and kids would rather play the game and possibly lose than to shorten their season by a game.
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12 hours ago, badbird said:
yes South Lake is down. South Sumter is pretty good and still young. They should be even better next year. That game is a toss up.
The first half of BM's schedule is ridiculously difficult. The second half should have them favored in every game. Jones will win their 5A district, but BM will probably sneak into playoffs under the new FHSAA formula. Their opponents schedules will give them a big boost. I'd rather see the kids play a reasonable schedule; I think they would enjoy it a lot more.
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13 minutes ago, badbird said:
Good news. South Sumter was scored on tonight.
South Sumter beat South Lake 42-14.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
Man I told you for months. Lol: B Moore is garbage.
Sad the coaches put their kids in a position for failure and embarrassment. It’s irresponsible
Dont take it personal. Tons of teams in Florida all the time
I wouldn't go so far as to say BM is garbage. They have played 7A Edgewater (full of recruits and the #1 ranked team in Central Florida), Gainesville Eastside (Anthony Richardson - UF commit and #1 QB in state of Florida), and nationally ranked Archbishop Spalding. Next u is Jones (#2 ranked team in Central Florida), and then South Sumter (unbeaten and unscored upon). I'll agree that their secondary is absolutely terrible and drags the team down every game. There's some very good talent on this team, but none of it is in the secondary. I think that maybe even FSU could score on BM's secondary.
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1 hour ago, DarterBlue2 said:
Was being administered by Archbishop Spaulding on Bishop Moore. Spaulding is well coached and heavily recruited. Their O Line created huge holes and their backs took full advantage. They also lacked brotherly love for their Catholic brethren as with two seconds to go to the half, they call a timeout with the ball at around the BM 45. The QB, making his intentions very clear, throws a bomb into the end zone that was just out of reach of his receiver. At the time the score was 35-7 Spaulding.
Having seen that, I decided to call it a night and went home. While I am not a BM fan, I take no pleasure seeing them, or for that matter, any local team get beat down by an out of state team. I remember Miami Northwestern being chastised for throwing bombs when they were up by 20 against Lake Brantley in the 2006 title game. In this case the Archbishop was up by 28.
AS didn't pull their starters until the 4th quarter and they were still throwing the ball downfield trying to burn BM's Pop Warner level secondary.
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I sat through the entire Bishop Moore - Archbishop Spalding mismatch. I think AS was up 14-0 by the time the young lady finished the national anthem. This is a game that should not have been scheduled. You cannot take a 5A private school that doesn't recruit or give athletic scholarships and put them on the field with the second best prep school from Maryland, a team full of recruits. BM was outweighed across the lines by at least 75 pounds per player, but the BM lines played hard and gave up yards grudgingly. AS has at least 7 lineman that weigh in over 300 pounds. On top of the physical disadvantage, the AS QB threw at will against BM's weak secondary. This is the 4th game in a row that BM secondary has been taken apart by opposing QB's; it's getting real old. They get beat deep for TD's at least 3-4 times a game, and once the other team discovers they can't tackle either, running sweeps go for big gains, often for long TD's. The BM secondary needs a total overhaul or this is going to be a long season. Next up is Jones and then and undefeated, unscored upon, South Sumter team.
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58 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
I agree. But the coaching style is still most def diff out of state their more pro style & actual s hemes while were more vanilla & basic.
Qbs up north and out west actually knows how to read defenses & make accurate audibles while qbs here especially at our black schools no shade but they dont know how to read & break down coverage if the play breaks down on what the coach called the qb is now like a deer in head lights trying to make something happen with his feet.
One of the problems here in Florida is that many old time coaches are still running the offenses they learned in high school. Most of the coaches here in Central Florida are teachers first, coaches second. OCs and QB coaches are often teachers with less teaching seniority. We do have some coaches that are running RPO offenses, younger and if you're lucky a recent college QB. There aren't too many available. Excellent QB training is available, but the best training is expensive and out of reach for most kids in the city schools. This often results in coaches using the most athletic kid on the team as QB and letting him wing it. If you win, the fans are happy, but you haven't really developed the kid's QB skills. The prep schools up north and out west and the IMGs have the resources to hire coaches that can recruit a kid who has the proper training; they polish his skills and run the fast paced offenses.
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7 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
Easy! Because them boys out west & up north actually knows how to ball. && their coaches actually knows how to coach.
Transfers & private vs public aside the coaching down here sucks monkey balls & the offensive play callinf is nothing to be desired. Compared to up north our ofensive play calls look like it was drawn in dirt in the backyard.
I get it i get it SFA MD SJ & Etc recruit from out the state & country blah blah them boys still piss shit & bleed just like every other player. It comes dosn to actual coaching,conditioning && dicisipline. Which florida severly lacks all 3.!!
The days our OVER!! where we in south florida can just line up cross anyone in the country & win off just pure speed and athletics. Sure we may still be #1 in the country for over football talent. But when it comes to producing teams that actually play high level ball those school outwest take the cake.
Why do you think schools ranked middle of the pack in their own state can play one of floridas best & go toe to toe or dare i say beat them ?? When it comes to ranking our top teams down here year to year we base it off history the year before transfers & what they do to instate opponents when in actuality its easy to be dominant in florida when half your team is transfers and your playing against other undisciplined vanilla coaching florida schools; until you try that against real schools & get exposed.
The best teams from up north and out west pay their coaches more than coaches here in Florida make; that doesn't make them better coaches. Let's look at SFA in Baltimore. There's a reason in-state teams will not play them in football. They're the IMG of Maryland/DC. Their players are scholarship players, all recruited from other teams in their area with some coming from other neighboring states; some are prep players that have already completed high school studies. They board their players; the kids on most Florida teams go home to their family each evening. They are playing Florida teams because no honest team in their area will schedule them. They'll play South Florida schools that thrive on transfers and beat up on transfer-weakened teams in Broward/Dade. The problem South Florida teams have is that you're sharing all those star transfer players among a half dozen schools. IMG, SFA, and other national teams like them don't share; they have a single team monopolizing the talent in entire states. They're better cheaters than the South Florida schools. As a fan of a couple of high school teams that don't play the transfer or scholarship game, I find it refreshing that the IMGs of HS football are spanking many of the teams that used to dominate football in Florida. At least the IMG's don't pretend to be local HS football teams while beating neighboring schools that have home-grown talent.
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2 minutes ago, badbird said:
Him and Willie might both be looking after this year.
USF has problems that a coach can't easily fix. First, they don't have their own stadium; they get almost no revenue from their games at Raymond James Stadium. Second, the AD is scheduling 2 and 1 (away/home) agreements with Power 5 teams; that's hurts twice, less home games and the away team fills up Raymond James making it like an away game for USF. Also, teams like UCF, Memphis, Cincinnati, and Houston are all having more success in recruiting and on the field. Charlie Strong has a tough job trying to build that team.
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4 minutes ago, Hwy17 said:
He should have stayed at USF
They have a better coach at USF in Charlie Strong.
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Just now, badbird said:
They are still playing. If they were not a big underdog I would attend. I also saw BM vs Edgewater. Considering other games at the moment
I don't think there are any other games in Central Florida Friday night.
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11 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:
If it is not, then this would be my default game Friday, then.
My grandson plays for BM and as of noon today the kids have not been advised the game has been cancelled. Archbishop Spalding was supposed to have arrived in Orlando on Monday. BM practiced Monday and will again this afternoon. I'll keep you posted.
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30 minutes ago, badbird said:
nope I declared myself champ. Last weeks totals were never totaled and I passed you. You can claim co champ or you can claim a UCF championship.
Let's not bash UCF. They beat everyone that would play them two years ago. The Power 5 will never invite a Group of 5 team to their "invitational" National Championship playoff. The NFL made that mistake in 1969 and the AFL Jets beat the mighty Colts; the merger wasn't far behind. It's all about TV money and the Power 5 would hate to see UCF get $40 million a year to invest in their football program. They'd rather give that money to the "jokes' in the bottom half of their conferences; teams that will never be competitive.
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2 hours ago, Hwy17 said:
Boise State has been around awhile, won a major bowl, been in the top 25, so at least FSU played a reputable program. Tennessee's lose to Georgia State was embarrassing. Georgia State hasn't been around but for 10 years.
Five years ago, Nole fans would have run the coach out of town if they lost to a "respectable" Boise State team. Willie Taggert is still there only because his buyout would be $17 million and FSU can't afford it with pissed off alumni withholding support and attendance going down the toilet. Why they ever hired Taggert amazes me; the guy never proved himself to be a top coach.
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16 hours ago, badbird said:
Orange county has canceled all games through Friday. Football games will be made up Monday
The game between Bishop Moore and Archbishop Spalding (Baltimore) at BM has not yet been moved from Friday night.
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4 hours ago, Coach said:
The biggest issue is that the districts cancelled school. When they do that, they cancel all activities associated with the district (including practices). I’m in Central Florida and it’s not bad here at all but it’s a tall order to get back to school on Thursday (at the earliest) and try to play a game Friday or Saturday. It becomes a bigger headache if there’s a team from another county who can’t play when you can. No coach likes the Monday game (especially with District games getting ready to start). It sucks for the kids most of all because they lose out on a game if the one they miss isn’t rescheduled.
Another problem they face is that most of the public high schools are being used for shelters during the storm. Getting everyone out and getting the schools cleaned up for classes will make Friday games all but impossible. Most Orlando area JV and Freshmen games for Thursday have already been cancelled.
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How good can it get? Noles and Vols both lose to Group of 5 opponents.
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1 hour ago, badbird said:
All Seminole county sporting events canceled. They will not play Friday night
In Central Florida, they're talking possible reschedules to Saturday, possibly Monday. Coaches would like to avoid Monday; they don't want to play two games in one week.
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On 9/2/2019 at 12:41 PM, Perspective said:
I'm guessing the 5 kids weren't quintuplets.
And strangely, none of them had the same last name as the homeowner.
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1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
I guess similar thing can be said for Jacksonville?
Jax doesn't have the same reputation that South Florida does. It's also a much smaller area.
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1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Ok I can understand that
Only one question though
Why is it that Lakeland and Cocoa take so much heat for their transfers yet there are schools in places like Miami and Jacksonville (even successful ones) that were getting transfers (legal or otherwise) even before the rule changes but they never seem to receive the same level of heat from people statewide that those 2 schools take?
That's simple. Anyone interested in Florida HS football knows that South Florida schools have been cheating for decades. I know that every time I hear someone brag on South Florida high school football, my filter goes on and I just figure that's the South Florida school that happens to be the best cheater at the time.
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2 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Normally the FHSAA only investigates if someone blows the whistle though right?
So if everyone is silent there won't be any investigation and it stays unnoticed
That's true, and most of the time, the whistle blower is another coach. It doesn't go unnoticed though; the kids on the team know the coaches are cheating. What does that say for the integrity of the people coaching our kids?
Jax TCA vs Venice this Friday
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The transfer system is the tool they use to recruit. In a city like Orlando, where schools aren't that far apart, it's easy for a kid who can drive to move from one school to another as long as that school has available capacity, Coaches are using that free transfer policy to poach athletes from neighboring schools. I'm sure it's the same way in South Florida and Tampa. Where coaches get in trouble is when the destination school doesn't have available capacity; then, phony addresses have been used to facilitate the transfer. It's not my responsibility to uncover violations that all coaches are already aware of.