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Yes. Separate the private schools and there would be less "super teams" on the public school level. Open transfers are right up there with super teams. Makes it a whole lot easier to compete with AHP, STA, Cardinal Gibbons,etc., and it would be a lot less necessary if the private school powers are out on their ass and competing in their own league (they don't need to be part of the FHSAA). On the public school side, certain teams will always be good because of community support and demographics. But if teams don't have to gear up to try and play recruited up juggernauts like STA and the like, I think you'd see a lot less of the super team on the public school end.

Put two of those teams in one district of 6-8 teams and two of those teams in another district of 6-8 teams and the cream rises to the top. We have too many classes. This is why the playoffs suck. Larger classes equals larger sample sizes and better results. You will never do anything to prevent disparity in quality between regions. The Big Bend will never compete with Miami-Dade. But those teams are typically in diferent classes. If not, oh well. It's a "state" championship. Not a region championship like watered down California.

there are no positive three and 4 team districts.

it would go along way to solving this. It may not be perfect but it’s a hell of a lot better than a bunch of pinheads at the FHSAA sitting around, deciding who’s better

this is the problem with all the BS voodoo rankings. It’s all nonsense. If you had a large enough district, these teams would not be tied. If you have a minimum 6 team district you can comfortably have your top two teams make the playoffs and keep the competition relatively good in the playoff system. Preferably a seven or eight team district is better but I think six at a minimum lets the cream rise to the top.. I don’t have an answer to your question because of the subjective system set up by the FHSAA

at least it was close

Still an L. The FHSAA jokesters should have stepped in and made it a no contest ir a win for Cocoa. But they have no nuts

Columbus is all boys. It's 3400 because you double. You really only need two real private school classes and one smaller open class for all the recruited up super powers. 16 teams or so. All qualify for season ending tournament (Playoffs). Move down the bottom 4 every year and promote the state champs and runner ups from the other two classes. It would probably look something like this. School size doesn't matter for the factories. STA IMG Chaminade Columbus Bolles Jesuit Belen Jesuit Benjamin Cardinal Gibbons Clearwater Central Catholic Jax Trinity Christian Carrolwood Day Calvarly Christian Cardinal Newman Berekely Prep Bishop Verot

I'm all for the SSAA. They need to absorb every private school team in the state.

One potentially useful aspect of this otherwise seemingly useless organization would be to absorb every private school in the state. Then they could actually set up real championships and real classifications. Let the FHSAA concentrate on public schools. They could play each other in the regular season for scheduling purposes, but for the playoffs they would stick to their respective organizations.

seems to me that most of these garbage trams could be lumped into the old FHSAA 1B. What a horrible lineup. They have like 12 championships between 40 teams, none of which are any good. What a joke.

Complete joke as ususal. Rankings are silly for HS football when you have districts and playoffs. I'll say it for the 10,000th time. Large districts, large classes, everything comes out in the wash. I personally would separate private schools into three classes of their own. Open, large, and small. This makes it fair for the schools that still value academics and have not whored themselves out to try and become football factories. I would do 4 large public school classes (which would include charter schools, as they are publicly funded). Perhaps one rural class for tiny schools in the middle of nowhere. If you incorporated the numerous independent schools and schools in the SSAC, all the classes would be robust.

Public schools absolutely are at a disadvantage. If your kid gets the chance to play for say Berekely Prep or Jesuit, the top academic schools out there, and play for a great team in a private school setting (and go for free or reduced tuition), you don't think that is an advantage? The same kid might have a choice between Blake, Middleton, or Jefferson on the public side (or any number of otehr schools) and it's no contest. They'll pick the private school every time. 25 years ago or so, private schools did not emphasize football (basketball once in a while). Now they all want to be St. Thomas Aquinas. Also, public schools at capacity cannot get transfers. So you get a very highly rated public school like Plant that is filled to its gills with school zone kids and they can't get open transfers. Private schools still have a big, big advantage. I would do 4 large public school classes and three private school classes (two normal classes and an open class for STA, IMG (sorry there's no difference), Chaminade, AHP, etc. etc. etc.

Silly, silly plan btw

gen x here. 1968. just snuck through

This is very simple. Either separate the private schools from the public schools (not banning them from playing each other just classification wise) or you go with six large open classes based on population. Private school populations, double if it’s an all boys are all girls school. If you’re going to go public private, you do 4 public school classes and 3 private school classes. I would do an open private class with the top 25 or 30 teams. Just make two regions and the top 8 in each region qualify. I would also do 2 traditional private school classes, one for standard Catholic school type teams, and another one for tiny Christian school type teams.

Columbus squeaked by a Clearwater Academy international team that was dismantled by last year’s Lakeland team. They have a nice win over Jesuit, who is not what they were. They are very up and down. Give them credit because both those games are on the road. The other wins are not super impressive. Let’s just see what happens before crowning them at some all-time great.

No. They are the fave but they are far from that dominant.

no. Sumner opened in 2020 as High School. It’s brand new.

so much for state title dreams

Mediocracy breeds mediocracy....

Centralized funding for Hillsborough athletics has been around since the 1970S.

The whole concept of 4S is "Laughable". Like Lakeland is unable to "compete" with 4M. What a complete joke. One team in 4M would be a slight favorite.

HC teams can play out of county and out of state, as plant and armwood have numerous times. But the County does not assist. Everything has to be paid for by promoters, booster club, etc.

No title contenders in Hillsborough. There are some pretty good teams (Tech, Berkeley, Carrollwood Day, etc.), but they won't beat the SF Juggernauts.