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Most schools move the kids on to the next course no matter what they scored. They just will put them in a "Learning Lab" or a Recovery Credit Course. So a kid took Algebra I freshman year, they put them in Geometry sophomore and if they failed Algebra I they will put them in a credit recovery class. If they find out later that they failed due to late exams (I stand by the idea that Spring Exams scores were released in late July), they can pull them from an elective to put them in the lab.

A lot to unravel here. First good on the AD for potentially catching a problem. I know it sucks, but he is right. You would rather not play the players, win the game then win the game and end up losing your win because of ineligible players. Second, is the AD saying the individual scores for students have not been released to the school districts from when they took the exams in the Spring? If so, he is wrong, scores were released to the schools on July 29th, which is much later than normal. So it could just be the school district is slow in entering and calculating the grades of the students. Now, could some of those students not taken the EoC (Biology, Algebra I, Geometry, US History) for subject, maybe. Every district is different on how a student who missed the exam is handled and how that would calculate into a student's overall grade. Third, If the AD isn't willing to look at the math, then they are in heavy "Cover Your Ass (CYA)" mode. Little can be done to fix them. If you show them the hypothetical of an F, and the GPA is still above 2.0, then how will the player become ineligible?

I don't think teams would leave. As noted earlier in this thread, Georgia schools already are required to make and submit their schedules much earlier. And honestly, making a schedule (even for a school like Columbia) is not hard. Yes, it is a shame that Buchholz, Gainesville, and Suwannee have all dropped Columbia. You could play more St Johns County schools (PV, Bartram, St. Augustine), you could skip Alachua County and play Marion County (Vanguard, North Marion, and Ocala Trinity Catholic), west (Lincoln, FSU High, Wakulla, Madison), Georgia (Valdosta, Lowndes, Brooks County, Camden County), Jax (Raines, Ribault, Riverside, Bolles, Trinity Christian, maybe Sandalwood and Fletcher). Yes, bad schools play good schools in Urban districts because most of the time, the school district makes them. It would be like Fort White playing Columbia. By the way, this is why the RPI system sucks. It makes teams too self-conscious about wins and losses rather than just playing. If it was simply champion and runner-up, non-district schedule doesn't matter. Suwannee could take that beating because it won't matter in determining who gets into the playoffs.

Does the average fan need to know more than when some rivalry games are, some big name match-ups, their alma mater, and maybe a local team? Probably not, but it just seems so unprofessional and disorganized (on the part of FHSAA). I would also think that since the FHSAA independently does their RPI ranking system that having the schedule/games in place would make life easier for them. Of course, the games might all be submitted to the FHSAA already, but we just don't know it because they don't share it.

If you need an assistant...

Is there a list of all the all-state teams for football? Basketball?

Meant more if you added every varsity athlete (boy and girl), what percent of them are 6-8th. The Kelvin Taylor, Anquan Boldin, and Natalie Land 's(Lafayette) of the world are few and far between. I think the bigger problem is that many of these schools are not actively recruiting their own hallways for players and then continuing to work with those players. Generally, no reason for middle schoolers to be on varsity if the coaches/schools are actually developing players, especially for boys who usually develop their physical abilities later.

How much of a benefit is it to the teams with them? How many Middle Schoolers are playing at a varsity level? I would bet that at even the school that that have middle schoolers on the varsity that it is less than 1% of their total participation.

Some of you that follow sports generally, probably know that some of the bigger names in European Soccer, tried to form their own Super League. Fans of the teams and the reaction by the governing bodies basically prevented the league from happening. In the US, high school basketball teams that are really more "college prep" teams than high school teams, are now forming their own "Super League." Honestly, never considered them to be high school teams to begin with, just national AAU teams. https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/31503278/high-school-basketball-powerhouses-form-national-league-set-begin-2021-22-season Do you think we could see the same thing eventually with football? I understand why basketball would be the first choice in doing this, as it is cheaper (less seats on a flight, less hotel rooms, less food) You can also schedule all 8 teams at one gym on one day or 4 teams and play games on one day. As for football... IMG (FL), St. Thomas Aquinas (FL), Mater Dei (CA), De La Salle (CA), Bishop Gorman (NV), Bergen Catholic/St Joes's/Don Bosco Prep (NJ). Are there others nationwide that could fit the bill?

Every other story on my social media feed is about the number of jobs that are available and that businesses are reducing hours/services in order to make due with the workers they have. Many people claim that the answer is pay those workers more and they will come back. Most bring the idea of the $15 minimum wage. I bring this up, because every year, we seem to lose coaches to other states or seem to lose coaches as they give up coaching. Even young promising coaches seem to give up on assistant coaching after 4-6 years because on some level the pay is not equal to the commitment. So my question is how do you keep coaches in your program? There are two "types" of coaches: School-Based coach... A coach who is at the high/middle/elementary school. They receive their pay based on being a teacher first and a coach second. If we go by the Governor's goal of 47.5K, how much more than that should a Head Coach receive in terms of a stipend? How much more than that should an assistant coach receive? Just as football coaches? We are not counting if they are the Weightlifting or Track Coach. The other type of coach is the community coach, who coaches, but has another job, not related to the school that provides for most of their bills. This could be construction, realtor, florist, landscaper, social worker. They are coaches (usually assistants, but not exclusively), how much should they be paid to be coaches?

I didn't know that about Lowndes, maybe with Florida going to the same schedule cycle as Georgia that could be corrected, still Lowndes/Valdosta would be gate games for Columbia. As for Suwannee, I disagree with them canceling the series. Yes, Suwannee lost for numerous straight years, who cares? You play the game because it is the game that all the alumni/communities look forward to it. I went to a Suwanee/Columbia in one of the last times they played. It was a blowout, but the crowd was still a good crowd. Heck, Suwanee should want to keep it if only because it brings them a good gate as well, but yes Madison is better competition and probably nearly as good as a gate. I would say the same for Fort White and Santa Fe canceling their series because Santa Fe kept losing. ----- I don't think the only the way to gain respect is to play a tough schedule. I think you gain respect by winning in the playoffs. Yes, having a winning record against good competition helps, but ultimately, elite teams are teams that you pencil into the regional finals because they have been there before repeatedly.

Balance is the key, but what are you emphasizing? For me personally, it is gate games. Games that I know are going to bring crowds (even if I might get my butt kicked or is against inferior competitors). If I am Columbia, I am scheduling Madison County, Suwannee, Fort White, Baker County, Valdosta, Lowndes, Gainesville, and Buchholz, but I am not necessarily scheduling Trinity Christian or Bolles or Lincoln. Based on what you are saying, you want a Madison, Lowndes, Valdosta, Trinity Christian, Bolles, IMG, Lakeland, Apopka type schedule.

The head coach/AD/County AD gives you the power to schedule non-district games for your 5A-8A public school. Your team could easily be a 4-6 team or 3rd round playoff team (3% chance of a state title). Assume 4 district games (1 below average, 2 average, 1 very good, and you). What factors go into your scheduling? And Why? Local Rivalries? Gate Games? Cupcake Games? Games against teams beyond your teams' expected success? Only teams your size? Against coaches you are friends with?

Tebow missed his calling... should of done a Wide World of Sports, where he goes from sport to sport for a week or two and plays with professionals... Rugby, gymastics, hockey, cricket, roller derby, wrestling, team handball, etc.

Does anybody know if FHSAA is using the RPI formula again to determine football rankings?

Edward Waters College announced a new coach... former Dillard Coach Toriano Morgan https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/sports/ewc-introduces-new-football-coach/77-9dd8c223-97a6-4453-8ced-6a275935c4cb

Problem is that even if they go to a JUCO, it doesn't solve the back log. Sure, some kids who would have petered out drop during those 1 or 2 years, but that is generally always true. Generally, I would say it would many years for this fix itself, but the transfer portal will make this solved easier after 1 or 2 years. Basically, a whole bunch of kids who are attending a school are going to enter the transfer portal and then realize nobody wants them and they will quit. Thus freeing up spots for the high school players.

So I did some research, here are Bradford County students are 9-12. I don't think that Bradford County has any other school other than Bradford, so this should be accurate. The first four numbers are based off the Final Calculation FTE and the bottom two are based of the July 31st, 2020 FTE Forecast and the January 27, 2021 FTE Forecasts. So it looks like the numbers are possible to get below 600. 2016-2017 Bradford 766.54 2017-2018 Bradford 735.21 2018-2019 Bradford 666.59 2019-2020 Bradford 662.49 FTE Forecast July 31, 2020 - Bradford 701.99 FTE Forecast January 27 2021 Bradford 589.37

No proof, FL DoE doesn't release FTE per school to my knowledge. If they did, we would get a better idea. Like I said, I would love to see their 2019 Student Population Report for the FHSAA, but the FHSAA removed them from their website. Their 2020 submitted FHSAA number was 740. They said on 12/1/2020 they were down to 538, a 27% due to COVID. 12/1/2020 is not FTE week though, so why they are using that as proof is beyond me. And again, it isn't the number of students on campus, it is the number of students that are enrolled, even if they are in a hybrid virtual program. I am willing to bet that Bradford miraculously recovers in 2021 in terms of population.

If they were moving to 8A, it is because they are afraid of Hawthorne beating that behind again!

Hmmm.. Bradford complains despite their FHSAA submitted numbers being 740 students, they will now be a 1A school, meanwhile Chipley with 635 and Crescent City with 615 students (cap is 600) don't merit a reduction to 1A but instead will be in 3A. Now, Bradford is saying they are under the 600 person cap... if so, I hope somebody does a follow-up to check make sure school district is only getting their FTE for the below 600 number rather than the 740. They are saying that on 12/1/2020 that they were at 538, sadly the FHSAA has removed all previous population reports from the website when they updated it (why they feel the need to get rid of information from a website is beyond me). A nearly 200 person drop in students seems.... odd. Nearly 27% of the students, no longer enrolled at the school? I don't know but that seems like a lot. I have a theory on how it happened, but all I am saying is that there is a reason why schools are supposed to use their FTE numbers and not adjusted numbers.

https://fhsaa.com/news/2021/3/15/2021-2022-fhsaa-football-classification.aspx

I am going to try and respond to several of your posts... No fan of the governor here, but closing schools was the right call and canceling spring sports was the right call. In March/April/May, we didn't have all the knowledge that we have now. This thing was packing our hospitals and the effects on young people were unknown in terms of how quickly in can spread. I think you are taking a too narrow of a view on this. I have zero, zero doubt that if football had been a spring sport that football would still have been canceled. I don't think anybody thought that it was okay to screw over spring athletes, but they also recognize the fact that those seniors, who lost their senior year, are moving on to bigger and better things. The non-seniors will get additional opportunities and as you are realizing, other than football, almost every sport the recruiting is done, not during HS seasons, but travel teams (soccer, volleyball, baseball/softball, basketball). Does it stink that a person lost an opportunity? Sure, but so did Academic Team kids, Robotics Kids, Singers and Dancers for theater. It is bad that anybody lost an opportunity, but need to think bigger picture. Public health demanded precautions. Here is the thing to understand about flattening the curve (Spring goal). It only works if we took necessary measures before they seemed necessary. And if it worked, people will think we over-reacted. We have to be willing to look like we over-reacted. I think you are being too conspiratorial minded on this. If think that the FHSAA and the governor thought for one moment on how to ensure football, but not other sports. The Governor shows up to football games because: 1) it shows how "American" he is... Football being the ultimate American game. I rarely think of Presidents going to football games (President Trump went to some non-military academies, but I rarely think of Presidents going). Governor has easier time of security at a football game where is in on the field away from fans. In a basketball or baseball game, there is no where to hide. As for track, there is a reason it is a great Olympic TV sport, but a horrible spectator sport. 11 second races with 6-8 minutes in between each time. I love seeing highlights of the state championship meet or the Bob Hayes Invitational or a 4x400 where a kid chases someone down from 50 meters behind, but going live, is a dreadful experience unless you have a rooting interest. 2) He is actively trying to encourage people that going to big opened air events is safe (you make your own determination if that is right). Same reason why he shows up at TPC and Daytona Bike Week. 3) Hundreds of people show up for a town football game vs moms and dads show up for a softball game, which gets you in front of more eye balls. They delayed football this fall and even Columbia County delayed football even further to ensure that it was safe, which is why they didn't have a 10 game regular season. Even if a football crazed county like Columbia, football still took the back seat to health and safety. I will go further, if the state championship in boys basketball had been at the end of March instead of the beginning, do you think they are canceling it. The answer is yes. School districts canceled volleyball and football team playoff games because of outbreaks at their schools. The only true safe thing was to shut everything down, but human beings crave social interaction and eventually things had to open back up. The biggest problem public health people and the politicians had was that they didn't give people measurable goals of what the shutdown/lockdowns meant. If our positivity rates were below X.X% for a week than our restaurants/bars/stores can open up, if hospitals had X number of beds available.

I was an optimistic fool who thought that we would be at full capacity last fall. @DarterBlue2doubted it, He was right, I was wrong. Honestly, I think by the end of June, everyone who wants a shot will have a shot. I think the problem is that there are a whole bunch of people who don't believe the virus isn't that bad, so they won't get the shot. Or they are young and want children and are afraid that the shot might prevent pregnancy.

@ColumbiaHighFan2017class left? Did I miss this? Probably hurting from 7 straight softball losses. And yes a point, he was as bad as Jesse, but I think he has matured