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  1. 19 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    http://es.pn/2Gd04GV

     

     

    What everyone thoughts on it? 
     

    Not sure whether the market is big enough for another football pro league. The original XFL folded after one year back when you were a young pup. However, if this one is better capitalized and they can put tweaks here and there, I have no problem with them trying. It would provide employment for some college athletes not able to make NFL rosters. 

  2. 55 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    This is NOT a knock in any way on the Mainland program.  Like Vero Beach, would think they have a somewhat limited talent pool (compared to south FL) and they consistently do a fine job grooming the talent they have.   For me, for a team boast they "reload and not rebuild," my reaction is to ask to see the hardware.  Prior to all of this transfer business, there were relatively few teams I would put in this category.     

    This is not true. The kids Mainland puts on the field are much closer to say, a Miami Norland or Carol City, than to to a Vero Beach or Venice. Volusia County as a whole, is not like South Florida. But the Mainland football team draws mostly from the working poor to lower middle class, to inner city parts of Daytona Beach. And, for the most part, this is the case for the school in its totality, and is certainly so for the football team. 

    Thirty years ago, things were somewhat different. 

  3. 50 minutes ago, FloTech said:

    I remember when we played Palm Bay in 2013 and 14 and alot of us were happy because they had a name and were usually good but when they hit the field and played we were like oh man they really suck nowadays similar to Pahokee they are not like 2004-2008 and Oscar Smith best days are past them too they have lost to the same team 3 yrs in a row and they should have won those games

    Oscar Smith has made a deep run each of those three years. How can you group them with Palm Bay? So if a team does not win state every year, they are now, somehow, inferior? VB is stepping up its competition. That is a good thing. Once you prove you can beat the Mainlands and Venices consistently, then you have an argument that you are battle tested and ready for everyone on the road to state. 

    You come over as one that has a beef with the VB program. Are you just frustrated they have not gotten to state or is it something more personal? 

  4. 34 minutes ago, FloTech said:

    You can't do that by playing defending state champs in rebuilding year they did that to Oscar Smith and Pahokee and they are now doing it with Venice who pretty much lost everything from the championship team and Mainland who was in a down year last season and they graduated the last few players they had to squeeze out a winning season.

    Venice and Mainland are a step up from Lincoln and some of the Palm Beach teams like Olympic Heights that VB scheduled last year. Give some credit. 

  5. 13 minutes ago, badbird said:

    I checked her hudl and all her hi-lites are from practice.  Sounds like a PC stunt by the college

    So, she is not very good, huh? At least not by male standards? Why am I not surprised. 

    Just like you have women's soccer in high schools, if enough females want to play football, then make it a separate league.

    Having young women (girls) playing football with males just increases the odds that bad things happen, giving enemies of the sport more reason to seek its ban. I would not allow a daughter of mine to play tackle football. 

  6. 4 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    Fast forward to the future...all coaches fly in on helicopters...no big thang anymore...so....  

    Nick Saban becomes the first NCAA coach to skydive and land on a high school field, with Alabama logo on the parachute.  With pinpoint precision, the University of Alabama/Adidas stealth bomber (gigantic Adidas logo on the underbelly with BIG-time naming rights) does a flyover just as Coach Saban touches the ground.  While all of this is taking place, the University of Alabama/Nike football drone is broadcasting the entire event in a live, pay-per-view spectacle (all profits will be used to fund the new University of Alabama/New Balance nuclear submarine, which will be used to facilitate future visits to high schools in Coastal cities.)  Coach Saban then takes a quick tour of the high school, using the University of Alabama/Under Armour jetpack (no time for walkin' folks).   Although NCAA rules still prevent him from making contact with recruits, he uses the University of Alabama/Geico telepathic communicator to send untraceable, subliminal messages to the recruit, such as "Coach Saban likes you MUCH better than that 5-star recruit from IMG."       

    I cannot wait.  And to think some folks consider Alabama a bit backwards.    

    There is something incredibly unseemly, if not downright dystopian, about this scenario. But the sad thing is, it may well play out. Maybe it's a good thing I am relatively old, and probably don't have that much time left. Not sure I want to be around for this. 

  7. 11 minutes ago, FloTech said:

    Actually Dwyer used to be our spring rival 2013 team beat the crap outta us and then won states later in the year

    Yeah, but still at least coach J seems to want to step up the competition. I think he realizes it's necessary if VB is to have a chance against the better 8A teams in the playoffs. 

  8. 29 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    So much for guaranteeing a new franchise wins a super bowl 

    The Jags played hard and have nothing to be ashamed of. Unfortunately, they faltered in the final quarter.

    It was good to see a local kid, Blake Bortles, have a good game. I was rooting for him to win. I saw Blake play several times in high school as he represented Oviedo, a local school. It was hard to evaluate him as a QB then, as Oviedo was an option team and he probably had as many yards rushing as passing during his high school career. Had he gone to a spread or I Formation school, he would probably have picked up bigger offers than UCF. But in the end, UCF may have been the best thing that happened to him as he got a chance to start and his career blossomed. 

  9. 56 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    Am not saying I agree with it, but it seems as if the purpose of the big sports any more is much less about competition and more about becoming a showcase for individual athletes.  Look at some of ESPN's games.  They will often pick a lousy game over a more competitive one simply to showcase a key athlete(s).    

     

    The above is more and more driven by the fact that high school sports in general, is seen as the "farm" for big college athletics, which serves as the farm for the pros (NFL, NBA, ). But in a sense, this makes us poorer as much of what made high school games fun, the rivalry, the innocent naivete, goes the way of the dodo and we are left with sport as just another career ... monetizing everything sometimes impoverishes us all ...  

  10. 1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    They dropped to independent so no

     

    Also i still feel this system a huge upgrade off that lazy old out of date system that looks too simple to be middle school playoff format in Wyoming much less a high school playoff format in Florida 

    Complexity is the preserve of the knave. Simplicity, is oft the essence of beauty.

    On a serious note, though, I am still on the fence regarding the new system. I will give it two more seasons, with adjustments as holes are discovered. If by then, it still has some of the flaws exposed last season, then I would prefer we go back to what we had, but with the elimination of three team districts. 

  11. 8 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:

    In the new system, if a team lost every game to a Category 1 team and those Category 1 teams were playoff teams the year before, they would average 38 points. For some classifications that will be enough points to make the playoffs as #8 seed. I look forward to this eventually happening

     

    I guess a team like ISB, which schedules powerhouses would be a likely candidate. Not sure whether they play are postseason eligible, though. 

    Hopefully, we move on to a new system or fixes are made to the current one, that prevent a no win team from ever making the playoffs before it happens. 

  12. 2 hours ago, badbird said:

    yup they had a team drop out of the district and made it 2 teams

    All the more reason to never, ever have three team districts. But with the new system, the inequity is somewhat reduced since only the champ would get a birth automatically. 

  13. 50 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Actually in 2a before they got rid of districts we had NFC and FAMU in a 2 team district but they always had at least 1 win while in that 2 team district 

    Really? So both were guaranteed a playoff spot? That is terrible. No team should have an automatic birth in the playoffs.

  14. 49 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    You have a point there 

     

    Question becomes how much can you change the rules before the game of football losses what it is and would be better to drop it completely 

    Exactly. As a fan, I don't want the death or permanent disability of players to be on my conscience. But I do enjoy the game and believe it teaches many important life lessons.

    My view of football is much the same as Carol Joyce Oats's view of Boxing was when she wrote a book on the sport in the 1980s. There is a lot of ambivalence on my part. 

  15. 2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    This was an interesting situation in Virginia.  Was curious if we have had similar experiences with winless teams making playoffs.   

    http://www.newsleader.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/12/02/high-school-football-teams-0-10-playoffs-how-come/908912001/

    Under the old rules where district champions and runners up only, made the playoffs, it was not possible since Districts had to have at least three teams. Under the new points system, I am not sure whether this is theoretically possible or not. Someone who has looked at the different scenarios would have to tell me.

    However, I would not be surprised if it could be theoretically possible. But I would have to think it would be extremely unlikely since playoff teams are now decided by region after the district champ spot has been filled. I have a hard time thinking that a no win team could win the 7th or 8th sport in a region. 

  16. On 1/19/2018 at 11:27 AM, Proseteye said:

    No sport should be violent. The purpose of sport is knowledge and skill, not who is the toughest street fighter in the neighborhood. When you enjoy hurting your opponent then you have lost the game already.

    Proseteye, at the risk of stating the obvious, by its very nature, football, like boxing (there are other sports) is inherently violent. How else can you explain its rules which allows for perpetration of violence on the part of one athlete on another?

    The question is: can the sport still be enjoyable and still provide benefit to those that watch and play when rules are put in place to reduce the level of violence, thereby mitigating permanent and/or life threatening injury?

    If the answer is no, and the level of violence is unacceptable due to severe injury to the sport's participants, then it should be banned. It's really as simple as that. 

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