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  1. In defense of the FHSAA (despite being an RPI critic), my numbers have consistently lined up with the FHSAAs. But when I do make mistakes, it would be easier if all schools' data was available instead of wondering where my mistake is. For example, my rankings would have been very off if someone on here had not posted about Glades Central forfeiting games. I know they aren't including the FHSAA Independent class, but it would be nice if they did as a lot of the winning percentages, opponent's winning percentage are coming from that group. They did. The name of the school was Bishop Sycamore, but I guess they have now changed their name to Youthbuild.
  2. One of the reasons, I wish the FHSAA would be more open with their data regarding the RPI is to be able to double check. If you go on and look at the RPI for Week 10, Mainland is listed as a 6-3 team. If you click on the 6-3 record of the team, it takes you to MaxPreps and has the team listed as a 5-3 team, so how in a day does Mainland go from a 6-3 to a 5-3 in one day. Well, it is easy. The MaxPreps system had Mainland playing the Youthbuild Centurions out of Columbus, Ohio. Mainland had a forfeit win against them. Now, this confuses me, because I am pretty sure that Youthbuild and Mainland never had a game scheduled (or at least nothing that I can find). Now, today it has been fixed, the game is removed. But I hope we don't find tons of these last minute additions to maxpreps. BTW, even though the MaxPreps has been updated the RPI rankings have not.
  3. I think the referees should become jerks and literally call a penalty on every play (as we all know there is one) to the point that coaches/players/fans realize that they can't call everything because if they did it would be 6 hour long games. I think replay has spoiled us as fans. Force replay to be done in at normal speed, no slo-motions, and only for obvious calls. If you have to zoom in, then no go. If you have to take the play at half speed, no go. All of these NFL fans rave about the players in the 1970s and 1980s, but they fail to realize there was very limited replay available back then. And while they love the referees back then because the referees didn't get wrong, the refs still got it wrong, there just was 10K replays of it. I think if they are getting it right more than they aren't. At the high school level, I have obvious blocks in the back that led to a large punt return and the fans will still book the call. Why? Your player obviously did it.
  4. 4.7.2.3.2 State Semifinals (a) Dates and Times. See the football webpage at FHSAA.ORG. (b) Bracketing. The Region 1 champion will play the Region 2 champion, and the Region 3 champion will play the Region 4 champion in the state semifinal games in each classification. (c) Host Schools. One of the two competing schools shall be designated as the host school for each state semifinal game, and shall determine the site of the game for which it serves as host. The host schools shall be designated as follows: teams with the highest regular season RPI Ranking will be designated “home” team.
  5. Don't expect that to be true when the standings come out. Columbia will rise up to #5 seed with Washington (Pensacola) losing to Escambia.
  6. Yeah, but who in 2A Region 1 is better. Right now, they are a 4 seed so even under the old system they get in. Also remember, you have to compare a 2A school to a 2A school. NFEI might be bad compared to a lot of schools but how bad are they compared to other 2A schools.
  7. Simple fixes: A ) Shrink back to 4 playoff teams (for 1A-4A) if they don't any of the following B ) Shrink classes down by 1 and increase the size of 2A-4A 483 Teams Minus 37 1A Teams means 446 teams, put 60 teams each in 2A-4A (~15 per region) and 88 teams each in 5A-7A for 5 teams per district C) Go to Northern/Southern Brackets for 1A-4A
  8. STA Lakeland Manatee Godby Lincoln Northwestern Suwannee
  9. Let me give an example... Class 4A, Region 4 Gulliver Prep (8-0) Cardinal Gibbons (6-2) NSU University School (6-2) Booker T. Washington (4-5) Miami Carol City (4-5) Somerset Academy (Pembroke Pines) (5-2) Previously, the FHSAA only allowed 4 teams in from these non-district classifications. Even in terms of RPI, the top 4 teams are a significant amount of point in front of Miami Carol City. Now, the FHSAA expanded to 6 teams. If our goal is to make sure that all teams that have a realistic shot get in that we need to be at 6 teams because I doubt too many people are going to say that Miami Carol City couldn't be in the final four. At the same point in allowing Miami Carol City, you let in a team like Somerset Academy. Or do we sit there and sorry Carol City, better luck next year, our top 4 are quality and you are just outside that. So again, in order to let every team that has a realistic shot of making the final four, do you only take a limit amount that might keep a deserving team out or do you make sure the deserving gets in even if a non-deserving team gets in.
  10. The question the coaches/ad/fhsaa has to answer when it comes to playoffs is: Do we create a system where every team that "could" possibly win the state championship is in the playoffs (even if that means several teams that shouldn't) or should the playoffs be for only teams that can win the state championship (even if that means 1 or 2 possible teams sits home)? Once you answer that question a lot of what we try to do becomes easier to understand.
  11. I think a team that loads up on highly difficult teams (Trinity Christian, Pahokee) and wins half or less are definitely going to struggle in 1A-4A to make the playoffs. I said at the beginning of the year that Pahokee would not make the playoffs because of how difficult their schedule was. Trinity Christian the same thing. You can schedule all the hard teams you want, but ultimately you have to win some of those games. If 4-6 Plant makes the playoffs, I think that will be an indictment of the system, just like last year an 0-9 Gadsden County making the playoffs was. As for playing 4 cupcakes, if you are a middle of the road team for your classification (Suwannee would be a good example), then it would be easier to schedule local cupcakes because nobody thinks you are going to dominate them. As a result, you end up with 6-7 wins and a good chance of making the playoffs. The FHSAA is trying to find ways for tough teams to play tough teams, and because teams can make their own schedules teams can refuse to play tough teams or end up traveling 3+ hours to find a game. The reality is that promotion/relegation would slowly push teams to their correct spot.
  12. Team A (doesn't play 10th game): 6-3... .666 WP = .233 towards their RPI Score Team B: (loses the 10th game) 6-4... .600 WP = .210 towards their RPI Score Team C: (wins the 10th game) 7-3.... .700 WP = .245 towards their RPI Score _________________ HWY, it depends if they would win or lose their 10th game. If they were to lose the 10th game, they would lose .023 towards their RPI score. It they were to win, they would gain .012 towards their RPI score. As a coach, risk/reward sets in. Is it worth trying to get that extra .012 if the potential also exists if you were to lose .023.
  13. So is American Heritage and Carver became Atlantic not American Heritage
  14. This is a bit old (10 days), but it affects tonight's Lincoln vs Crestview game. Coach Gray knows about the chant (“One thing I know, we don’t put any school’s name in the chant."). Ooops. https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/preps/2019/10/11/lincoln-football-coach-quinn-gray-assistant-suspended/3946002002/
  15. Dade (12 schools) Coral Gables Hialeah-Miami Lakes Miami Miami Booker T. Washington Miami Carol City Miami Central Miami Edison Miami Killian Miami Norland Miami Northwestern Miami Southridge South Dade (Homestead) Escambia (7) Escambia Tate Northview Pine Forest Washington Woodham Ernest Ward Brevard (6) Cocoa Melbourne Merritt Island Palm Bay (Melbourne) Rockledge Titusville
  16. Escambia 7- (Escambia, Tate, Northview, Pine Forest, Washington, Woodham, Ernest Ward) Palm Beach 5- (Gardens, Dwyer, Glades, Pahokee, Carver) Leon 4 (Godby, Leon, Lincoln, FAMU) Alachua 3- (Buchholz, Gainesville, Santa Fe) Duval 2- (Raines, Mandarin)
  17. https://sports.yahoo.com/missouri-high-school-forfeits-football-season-fires-coaches-after-using-ineligible-player-ad-will-retire-041337409.html
  18. End of 9 Weeks, Duval had the same thing. The teacher workday in Duval used to coincide with the Florida-Georgia game every year which made sense because it was hard having to have police monitor the major party areas as well as the football games.
  19. If I am a 4A school, why should it matter how I do against an 8A school to determine if I am in the 4A playoffs. Shouldn't the teams in the 4A playoff be the teams that beat other 4A teams. Imagine if the Gators won every SEC conference game, but then don't get to go to the SEC Championship because they lost to Florida State. That is what you are suggesting. It is why, the district system is easier. Now, do 4A teams have to be willing to step and face Trinity Christian, sure. I would solve that by promotion and relegation. Promote good teams until they are no longer dominate. If they get to 8A and are still dominate, so be it. As for the number of teams in the region, just go back to the top 4 instead of top 6. Yes, I would prefer larger classes, but 1A-4A regions have 50% less teams in a region, but only 25% teams in the playoffs.
  20. Don't forget there are many people who think this is a more system because every game counts (instead of just district games).
  21. Anclote 35 56 0.385 Fivay 31 49 0.388 Hudson 35 57 0.380 Land O Lakes 32 56 0.364 Mitchell 66 30 0.688 Pasco 59 41 0.590 River Ridge 58 39 0.598 Sunlake 68 28 0.708 Wesley Chapel 35 54 0.393 Wiregrass Ranch 39 56 0.411 Zephyrhills 68 29 0.701 Just to give an idea of how Pasco County schools have done since 2010 (not counting this year). The schools surrounding Gulf are Anclote, Mitchell, River Ridge, and Fivay. Again, I wonder what a principal, coach, AD, or superintendent does in this situation to improve? Or do they even care? Just cash the paycheck and move on.
  22. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/broward/fl-sp-hs-miramar-forfeit-20191015-gm2x4dp4njfm5igxbw5b2elome-story.html
  23. https://www.tampabay.com/sports/high-schools/2019/10/15/gulf-high-cancels-remainder-of-football-season-due-to-injuries/ I know nobody will care that an 0-7 team that scored a total of 14 points for the entire season ended early, but this is what I mean when I say the sport might end up dying because we don't allow fair competition. Look Gulf is bad, last week they lost to Tarpon Springs who has given up 50+ points in 5 of their 6 losses (42 in the other). Tarpon Springs had scored a total of 7 points before winning 20-0. Gulf is 14-85 in the last 9 seasons (technically 14-88 if the rest count as forfeits) or .159 Winning Percentage. If you count boys soccer, basketball, and baseball over the past 9 season the schools is 118-411-14 or .299 Winning percentage across the other team sports. If you are a Head Coach, Athletic Director, Principal, or Superintendent, how do you fix this culture of losing at a school?
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