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Everything posted by Hwy17
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Also I think the biggest loosers are the bottom feeder programs in metro areas.
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Which is why I'm in favor of leaving the FHSAA and going independent or forming another association
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Point is you can see we had parity before the current law. Rural schools aren't scared to play schools from metro areas when there was a level playing field. There's this myth that South Florida has always been the dominant area of the state when it comes to football. That's not exactly true. STA use to get to the championship but typically they'd lose. AHP use to never get past the first round, neither could Cardinal Gibbons. And other than 2004, I can't remember when Chaminade was all that. In fact the rise of these programs has been at the expense of other schools down there which are really struggling .
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Prior to 2010 how many titles did STA, AHP or Chaminade win? Likewise how many titles were won by some of those rural teams?
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Here's an article from 2020. It seems to me that FHSAA is quick to throw the book at some schools while turning a blind eye to others. https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/sports/high-school/football/2020/04/06/prep-football-4-manatee-county-coaches-suspended-fined/1392288007/
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I never have had a problem when there is a legitimate bona fide move.
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Get rid of classification, districts, etc. Allow schools to play up to 12 regular season games, all games count so no more kick off classics. Make your schedule as difficult or easy as you want. Use a power ranking system based on SOS to rank all teams. The top 8 make the playoffs. Everyone else with 8 or more wins get a bowl game against a similarly ranked opponent.
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Under the delusion that they don't have an alternative or school district won't let them seek an alternative
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Many years ago high school football in Florida was similar to college football. A group of schools would form a conference and compete for a conference championship. At the end of the year we played bowl games.
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I saw yesterday that Frostproof is going independent and joining the SSAC. I wonder who will be next.
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NIL coming to Florida? FHSAA requests public feedback
Hwy17 replied to Nulli Secundus's topic in The Huddle
You are aware we beat them 20 years straight -
So the only other option is to schedule easy teams, produce a winning season but get killed in the playoffs.
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Goes back before Peacock.
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NIL coming to Florida? FHSAA requests public feedback
Hwy17 replied to Nulli Secundus's topic in The Huddle
Given all the millions Hardee gets from Mosaic they could be the next super team. -
So how does SSAC determine their divisions or classifications?
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THE ORIGINAL 2024 COACHES MOVING VAN - Official Thread
Hwy17 replied to Joshua Wilson's topic in The Huddle
Hardee is looking for a head coach too. -
THE ORIGINAL 2024 COACHES MOVING VAN - Official Thread
Hwy17 replied to Joshua Wilson's topic in The Huddle
Hopefully he gets that program turned around -
You beat me to it. But isn't SSAC all small private schools that didn't want to be part of the old class 2A? Would they allow publics to join ? I was suggesting 400+ schools going independent, play 10 games and maybe a bowl. Make Chaminades and STAs play each other.
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The only way this is ever going to get resolved is if 400+ schools announce that they are going independent at one time.
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I saw a lot of 3 team districts
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That's why I wouldn't move the top team up more than just one class than what they would be otherwise. Nor would I move the bottom team down more than one class than they would have been otherwise. Too bad you and I aren't having this conversation in person as I can offer you some good examples for where I'm seeing this at. For the life of me why can't FHSAA adopt a policy that says a transfer would only be allowed to play JV their first year, exception for a senior, would be viewed as unreasonable or violation of state law?
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All I can see as really occurring is that some really fine programs that aren't "elite" but having success in their current class becoming the new bottom feeders in a different class. So they move back down only to have those who replace them become the next group of bottom feeders. To be honest, the vast majority of schools are classified correctly, it's just a handful of offenders who have built their program around transfers who are controlling the system. FHSAA implementation a point system that was supposed to work. It didn't. Then we tried RPI. Then Metro/Suburban. Now they want to go back to traditional. All because of they are too afraid to implement a reasonable transfer policy for fear that the state legislature wouldn't like it.
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This is one of my concerns with the relegation system. I school with a larger population has an advantage over a smaller school. That's a fact that was determined years ago and why we had classes based on population. I don't know the situation going on at Southeast, whether it be poor coaching or kids leaving the program, but I'm sure they have way more talent walking the halls than say Moore Haven or Frostproof. Bartow for example is a larger school that was struggling and a coaching change turned around the program so that they are competitive now. They didn't have to drop a class to do it. And of course there is always the option of going independent or scheduling easier teams without dropping down. Most schools go through a cycle of bad year, decent year, good year, repeat. We just want a level playing field like existed for before. However the only way I see that happening would be 400+ schools to go independent all at once.
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Lakeland is the reason we have super teams in Florida
Hwy17 replied to nolebull813's topic in The Huddle
Around the state how often does one school get the majority of its transfers from one particular rival, and the downturn of the later coincide with the rise of the former? -
Do you have access to that data? I'd like to run a few different scenarios and see what it looks like. The old way of creating classes actually was to create 6 classes then cut the bottom 2 classes in half giving us a total of 8. I say create 7 full classes. Would Chaminade be 3a or 4a ? I don't know. One of my concerns is not so much as who's moving up as who would be moving down. Would a larger school like Bradenton Southeast that has been struggling in recent year get classified with schools half their size like Lake Placid or Labelle? Let's run the numbers and see.