DarterBlue2
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2 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
The NHL and NBA have recently signed deals with "official sports betting partners"
Here's an interesting article about high school sports betting. Interesting that offshore bookies are taking bets on Texas hs games. One day will we have the "official sports betting partner of the FHSAA?"
https://usatodayhss.com/2018/the-odds-of-sports-betting-affecting-high-school-sports-are-slim
GOD help us all if we ever come to that!
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15 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
People may not realize this but the NCAA don't give a damn about any of the teams
The reason the bowl numbers keep increasing is because the more games the more money they make
And honestly i don't mind seeing a few borderline teams having a bowl game, even at college level some of those bowl games between 2 teams of 6-6 record end up being far more competitive than some of the major bowl games because they are happy and honored to have 1 more game
My take is, if we cut the number of College Bowl games in half, I would be okay with that. I don't have a problem with some of the teams on the bubble getting a bowl. But I don't think a .500 team should get one.
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45 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Look at all of the bowls in the NCAA today. Maybe some like it, but I find it a turn-off. The world is tough....no consolation prizes, no runner-up trophies.
I am okay with the runner up getting recognition. I have a problem with numbers 3, 4 & 5 getting the same.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
I never said it wasn't a big deal back in the day. I am not trying to compare it to anything.
All I said is it gives seniors who will never play again in their life one extra game and it gives the younger kids extra game reps for next year.
What the F&@k is so terrible about that? Why is that a damn garbage idea?
It rewards mediocrity. When anyone can get a bowl game it is no longer special.
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1 minute ago, Hwy17 said:
Yeah, use to be good teams didn't make the playoffs. Now bad teams do.
Exactly. Having a bowl game for some 5-5 or 6-4 team that has played mediocre competition serves little purpose unless it is against a former, old rival, in which case, the kids may be hyped!
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9 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Based on some things I'm hearing with numbers we may see some fresh faces in 6,7, and 8a next cycle
I think that would be good. Always a GOOD thing to see fresh, new matchups.
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Just now, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
How far off is mainland from 7a population count?
A couple hundred students. They wanted to move up to 8A, but were declined. They may well be 7A for the new cycle as their student population has probably grown a bit since the last determination.
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1 hour ago, Floridatech said:
At the beginning of the season I thought it was Miami Central but CC beat em AND rolled through some impressive teams this year....I talked to a a longtime friend and former poster on here and he said that CC and IMG can claim bragging rights for this year as Florida's best team (this guy watches about 3-5 games in the South Florida area and have seen CC play like 3 times this year)......All in all I think CC is the best team and their competition speaks for itself....
Beat AHP 34-16 rec 7-2 playoff team
Beat Columbus rec 8-1 playoff team
Beat Southridge rec 7-2 playoff team
Beat MC rec 8-2 playoff team
Beat BTW rec 4-5 potential playoff team
Beat MNW rec 4-5 potential playoff team
I have not seen them, but based on who they have beaten and the way they have done it, I suspect they are the best team in the state of Florida this year and am very glad the better Central Florida (except Mainland) teams are in 8A and not 6A.
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4 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Any jacksonville people want to explain what's going on over there?
They probably don't want to, or can't afford to, provide scholarship money to bring in athletes as they used to. As a result, it's been awhile since they have won a state title.
Just speculation on my part as I really have no idea.
Columbia should win easily next Friday and I am glad I came to the Fletcher game instead as while it was probably not Columbia's best game, it was very good to watch from a fan standpoint.
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1 minute ago, Cat_Scratch said:
Rockledge and Trinity Christian Jax are District champs.
Rockledge seems to be back. Back to back good seasons. Glad the Raiders are playing good football again.
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2 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said:
Bartram Trail beat Buchholz, and Bartram will not make the playoffs and Buchholz will?
Bartram is a decent team, Kind of like Booker T Washington last year.
Very good offense; soft defense. Last year they had three losses and eventually made the state championship
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2 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Bowl games are so beneficial. It gives the seniors one last and final game. 98 percent of them will never play a down of football for the rest of their life. And to miss the playoffs as a senior kinda sucks. Gives them one last game to go out with some sense of glory.
But what about the ones that lose the bowl game? Are they to go in deep, dark depression?
When only district champs made the playoffs, I liked Bowl Games. Now, not so much.
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31 minutes ago, badbird said:
the hold on the kick off was a hold.
I don't disagree that it was. But I am saying that the call took a lot of air out of the Apopka kids.
A great team does not make things like this get into its collective head.
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2 minutes ago, badbird said:
the hold on the kick off was a hold. The hold on the touch down called back was very questionable. Not sure it mattered. Wekiva was the better team. Apopka wanted to stop the run and make the Wekiva QB beat them. He did. Wekiva has improved on offense and if they play like that have a great chance to win state and are probably the favorite.
1. I agree.
2. Wekiva has a great chance of making the state title game and are the best team in the North bracket in my opinion. I have not seen enough video of Columbus, Atlantic, Deerfield Beach or South Dade/Palmetto/South Ridge to determine whether I would favor Wekiva in the title game.
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7 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Here are some. Please add to the list.
8AD1 Mandarin8AD7 Osceola8AD13 Hialeah8AD14 Columbus8AD16 Southridge7AD7 Lakeland7AD9 Plant City7AD11 Venice6AD2 Navarre6AD3 Crestview6AD10 Charlotte6AD12 Naples6AD16 Carol City5AD8 Zephyrhills5AD11 HardeeYou can add Wekiva to the list. For while there are three teams tied at the top of the district, I cannot think of any scenario in which they will not be district champions.
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52 minutes ago, 1mustangW said:
Did you feel like coach Darlington quit by punting on 4th and 4 from Wekivas 40? Just felt like they’re side didn’t think they had a chance last night.
Coach has a very good football mind. I am not going to second guess his decision.
Had Apopka not been called for the penalty on the opening kickoff, the game may have been more competitive. But that is speculation on my part.
Like i said, go win State. The north bracket provides you with a clear path to get there.
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47 minutes ago, 1mustangW said:
Was hoping to hear your thoughts on last nights game @DarterBlue2.
Wekiva's defense dominated Apopka last night. In 20 seasons this is the first running clock I have seen Apopka get and that includes multiple state title and semifinal appearances . Apopka had only three good plays all night and two got called back for penalties. I won't share my opinion on whether I thought they were legit or not.
But even if they were not called, it probably would not have made a difference. The dagger in the heart was the 100 yard pick six.
Congratulations to Wekiva. Go win state!
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20 minutes ago, Proseteye said:
Hmmmmmmmm. This is COF Academy's first year in existence. They are a private school out of Ohio and the owner is modeling the Academy after IMG. He is trying to make them into a "football factory", his own words. Right out of the box the team is playing out of state teams that are way above COF's abilities. Apparently he feels that putting the team into the oven right away will breed toughness of character. By the way COF stands for Christians of Faith. They will have to practice their faith every second of this game tonight in order to not have a running clock in the first quarter I'm afraid. COF has lost their first 7 games by substantial margins. However, to their credit, they won their 8the game against a fairly decent team and lost their 9th game 14-12 against a fairly decent team. So, who knows?
I believe, but am not certain, that this game has been cancelled.
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25 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
At the end of the day, teams entering the playoffs with 3 or more losses have very low odds of advancing. Last year, only 1 of the teams who made the Final 4 in Classes 4A-8A classes entered the playoffs with 3 losses(Bartram Trail). Check out the post below.
We're having all this debate over teams who makes the playoffs and the vast majority of these "contentious" teams are likely to get knocked out in the early rounds anyway. There was time when 9-1 teams did not make the playoffs, and now we are concerned about teams with 4 losses not making it. Those 9-1 and 8-2 teams who missed out found other meaningful ways to celebrate their seasonal accomplishments.
Whether it's the old system or the current one, I think the playoffs satisfy their primary objective...to determine the best team in each class. How many teams that never made the playoffs do you feel certain missed out on a state title because of it? I doubt very many.
As you documented in another thread, Apopka has three titles from the runner up spot. And one of those was from a 6-4 regular season. Before the mid 1990s none of those Apopka teams would have won a state title as they would not have made the playoffs when only the district winner made.
That said, I get your point. Apopka is an anomaly. It is very unusual for teams with more than 2 regular season losses to win a title.
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5 minutes ago, SPCjessica2004 said:
Dillard,
I get what you're saying, and understand it in the big schools; however, the smaller schools in 1-4A have to create their own 10 game schedule. Booker T. is a known name, meaning, sisters of the poor aren't going to play them. They're forced into playing Chaminade-Madonna, Central, Carol City, Southridge etc. I think you have to cut these guys some slack with their record.
The bigger schools 5-8a I tend to feel a bit more empathy for since they get placed into districts. Some districts are tougher than others. I think the FHSAA was trying to avoid those super-districts where there is a 6 team district and 3 of the teams are elite superpowers but only 2 make the playoffs so they end up beating each other up and then in the sister district a 5-5 team playing joe nobody is a champion.
The question becomes, what's the best system to use? There probably isn't one everybody will agree on, but as Josh says the point system is here to stay.
A modified points system is probably fairest. However, there are still kinks that need to be worked out.
At the end of the day, a perfect system does not exist. If a better job was done putting competitive districts together with at least 5 teams each in the larger classifications, and the various schools did not complain, bitch and moan and were willing to travel in cases where that was necessary to put together competitive districts, I would be for the old district winner and runner up making the playoffs. But the previous district qualification system was grossly unfair to a number of teams and should be buried forever unless a better effort was made to have competitive districts.
A simple example of making districts more competitive would be to move two of: Central, Northwestern, Norland and Carol CIty to two other districts. One, of these teams, for example could be moved to Dillard's district and another to the next closest 6A district (even if that meant travel to the Collier County area up through Charlotte County).
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20 minutes ago, Floridatech said:
Dude mentioned it at top and you said Caribbean so I said might be a kid from Haiti because it's alot of them in that area
A lot of both Haitians and Jamaicans in the Carol City/Norland area. In general a lot of Caribbean people live in that area. CC is luck that the forfeits were not two district games. But even if it were, chances are they would still make the playoffs though it may have been as a 7 or 8 seed.
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Just now, Floridatech said:
But they know football down their tho all my family be talkin bout it with me and they even got basketball courts out their and I'm like dam its like I never even left the states
They know the game. But have not played competitively. It takes some transition time. Anyway, I still find it strange that this had to do with two international players.
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11 minutes ago, Floridatech said:
Prolly a kid from Haiti
Maybe, but it usually takes a year or two for kids from Haiti or Jamaica to pick up the game, by which time they should have normalized their status and been good to play.
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It would lead to all kinds of corruption and further "professionalize" the high school game. I can think of all kinds of very disturbing things that would result including fixed games at levels as high as the coaching staffs, etc.