Jambun82
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57 minutes ago, Dan in Daytona said:
That's it, no, no, no CM passes the ball with 15 seconds, runs to the line for another play and scores as time runs out. Cheap, cheap, score. Cm 48-14. Unless this was payback from a previous slight, Chaminade didn't finish with class.
CCC called a timeout with 15 seconds left. That is why Chaminade Madonna scored the final touchdown. The Education of Dan in Daytona continues, we await the next game.
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One team will definitely perform very well in this game. I am very confident of that.
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11 hours ago, Perspective said:
There were actually offsetting penalties on the play . . . she had flagged him for "illegal motion."
That said, this may be the one time I'm thankful we don't have video review.
It is a good thing that breaking hearts is not a crime. Otherwise, I might have had to retain the services of a very good to great legal representative. Clarence Darrow, Johnnie Cochran, and F. Lee Bailey are no longer with us, but I would need a legal mind of that caliber for sure.
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12 hours ago, Dan in Daytona said:
Jeez, I bet Jambun sleeps in his officiating uniform.....shoes and all. Rumor has it, he threw a flag on a lady friend the other night for " Roughing and illegal touching." Seconds later, he picked up the flag .......with a smile on his face.
You know something Dan, for all of the education and lessons that I have provided you over the years, you should be thanking me! It has been a honor and privilege for you to be able to speak with me during this time, and I suppose that that big ego of yours and blue and gold Buccaneer pride won't let you admit what we both know is true. No woman has ever committed a foul with me, but I have been known to have been penalized for non-contact with many ladies after they have had the greatest night of their lives, and they realize that once you go black and white, you never go solid shirt again!
- Dan in Daytona and Ray Icaza
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10 hours ago, Dan in Daytona said:
Nulli, double foul, penalty for piling on, and unsportsmen like conduct......30 yards.
That is not a double foul, that would be considered multiple dead-bowl fouls. A double foul is a live-ball foul on each time during a down.
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10 hours ago, badbird said:
I have no connections or interaction to any of the players in the playoffs so I'm looking for a good game to watch. Sorry to disappoint you dad.
I am not old enough to be your dad, but if I was, rest assured, you would be developing a much better attitude than what you have displayed on the message board. I will forgive you for now, but you need to be more careful in the future.
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2 hours ago, badbird said:
I've been very disinterested in the playoffs with 25 classes of trash football but I can't miss this one.
GO KOWBOYS
No matter how many classes of football that there are, we are still talking about High School Football. If anything, it should be interesting for the young men (and women) who are the players. I expected a lot more out of you badbird, and I am very disappointed.
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On 11/27/2022 at 9:13 PM, ExplorerHomer2 said:
Yeah that game was crazy. That whole final 4 minutes was crazy.
Don't know if you know the story, but we had a defensive player die in a car accident the year before and the team dedicated the season and the championship to him. The theme and foundation for him was called "Be the Light". Well as a religious school, it didn't take much for the boys to believe that their boy Ari #30, was sending them a message from above. When the lights went back on, Columbus stormed back on with a very improbable finish.
Great part of Explorer lore at this point.
In any case, the Drive Pnk Stadium where Inter Miami FC plays now has a nice set up and don't expect any technical issues. Owners of the Miami FC who commissioned the rebuild of the stadium are also Columbus Alumni and huge benefactors. They better get it right! LOL.
I didn't know the story, but I remember the game very well.
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7 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:
So sorry Dan, I let politics creep in as I was only counting the red counties and forgetting about the blue ones
. So you are correct in pointing out there are 67 counties in FL..........my bad!! But that makes it more special as 43 are not represented.
You are forgiven this time, but don't let it happen again Ray. I am also going to forgive you for not answering my questions this time. Rest assured though, next time that I ask you a question regarding officiating, or anything else, I will not only expect an answer, I will demand one! Do you understand, and have I made myself clear?
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12 hours ago, ExplorerHomer2 said:8 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
If the Darters beat PBC, I will be in Fort Lauderdale for the final. Columbus will rightly be the favorite, but maybe Apopka can give you a good game.
Hey Darter, if the football gods align, we may yet see another classic Blue Darter/Explorer state match. Best of luck against PBC next week, and hope to see you the week after if you make the trip down south.
Hopefully, the scoreboard won't malfunction in the fourth quarter if Columbus plays Apopka like the last time in 2019 in Daytona Beach.
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4 hours ago, Dan in Daytona said:
Jam hopefully, one day you too will achieve senior citizen status. Until then X#%!@ off
I have a long way to go for that Dan. As a senior citizen, I expect you to be more "mature", set an example for the young whippersnappers, and not use foul language.
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19 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Maybe it was pink for breast cancer month
It that is the case, the flags are about 3 weeks too late.
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11 hours ago, Dan in Daytona said:
I tried to post a "Heads up" on the site, but was unable to log back on after the original post. Section 104 is the Wild, Wild West ! It was a very entertaining game with Northwesten giving Central all they could handle and more. Think they jumped out to a first quarter 21-0 lead. It was sloppy most of the time and the red flags were flying all over the place to the tune of a couple hundred yards. Central didn't look like a Top 3 team in the country last night, but hats off to Miami Northwestern for bringing it. Both teams can play and beat anybody when at their best.
Red flags? I didn't know that there were replay challenges in Florida High School Football.
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12 hours ago, Perspective said:
Thank you, Jambun.
But "clearly a touchdown?" We must have seen different clips.
The football was in player possession in the opponent's end zone. That is a touchdown. I believe that Clarence Darrow, F. Lee Bailey, and Perry Mason would agree.
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11 hours ago, Perspective said:
Darter, I agree with you (and said as much when I first posted about this game). But, if that was the case, why didn't the line judge come in with an immediate and emphatic hands-in-the-air TD signal? That's what I was hoping Jambun could answer.
It's almost as if the following thoughts went through the official's head in the matter of two or three seconds as he was coming towards the middle of the field: "Hmmm, it kind of looks like maybe the ball broke the plane but I'm not really sure. I guess I'll wait to see if he guy with the ball lands in the end zone, because then it'll be an easy call . . . oh, wait, dang it, he just got pushed back and the ball's not in the end zone. Crap, what do I do now? Hmmm, which team is the home team here? Yeah, right, the team on offense. If they score, they win; if they don't, they lose. Dang it, I want to do what's right, but I'm not sure if he crossed the plane or not. But, what I really want is to make sure I get out of here safely tonight and make it home in time to watch SportsCenter . . . "
Hands go up in the air to signal the try is successful. Game over.
Perspective, the mechanic used by the line judge on that play was the absolutely the correct one. Speed and making an immediate decision and signal are not important or imperative when an official has a critical call to make such as that play. It is more important or imperative that the official has the right outcome, which in that case was clearly a touchdown.
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11 hours ago, Perspective said:
What a great game.
I saw an endzone video of the 2-point conversion in OT that gave Oviedo the win. I don't think it could have been any closer. When I first saw it, it looked like the RB came up inches short. But then I saw a slow-mo version where it appeared the RB may have just broken the plane before landing short of the goal. Without a goal line camera/view, it's hard to tell. It's really important to have the right perspective.
Too bad someone had to lose that game. But, it brings me to my question (I eventually get there):
@Jambun82, when I watched the video, there was an official (line judge?) right on the goal line. The play came towards him and did NOT involve a big pile up. It was basically the RB against a LB or DB, with a second defender coming in to help. From the video I saw, there was nothing in the way of the official that obscured his line of sight. In other words, he appeared to be in perfect position and had a clear sight line as to whether the ball broke the plane or not. As I believe he's supposed to, he immediately closed the gap and ran in to where the play ended. But instead of giving an immediate signal (either raising his hands to signify a TD or waiving his hands over his head and putting his foot down to signify that the offensive player was stopped short of the goal line), he basically stood there for what seemed like an eternity before he finally signaled a score. Why? Under the circumstances that I laid out, what would cause the line judge to wait so long before signaling? Who or what would or could he be waiting on? I'll keep the conspiracy theories to myself for now.
Thanks in advance.
Perspective, I really wouldn't be able to answer that without seeing the play myself. Thank you.
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22 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ'ss!!
Now that that has been established, what problems/issues did you have with the officiating in the game Ray?
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3 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:
Quaking in my Kowboy boots.
When you, or anyone, bashes, critiques, or criticizes the officials or officiating of a High School Football Game on this message board, I am going to expect and demand answers to my questions, and that is how it is going to be. Do you understand, and have I made myself clear?
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On 11/12/2022 at 2:33 PM, Ray Icaza said:
Happy Coach Beek took me up on my offer and both he and his son joined us for the game last night. Thanks Coach for the company and sharing some insights on your Poinciana team. Not one of our better outings but a win nonetheless and some crazy officiating throughout especially for a playoff game. Please JamBun, don't ask for details.
Why not? Are you scared of my questions?
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12 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:
"OUR" is a figure of speech encompassing our school and its constituents. If any teaching needs to occur is your mastery of the English language rather than try to DIVERT from the issue at hand which is your modus operandi. Actually was in those stands last night watching our terrific girls volleyball team deliver a 3 game sweep for the Regional Championship vs Dr. Phillips while you fiddled for a response.
Any taxpayer in Osceola can claim some "ownership" of public property in that county. I should start charging you for the lessons that I have taught you on this message board, but I am too nice a man. The privilege is all yours. You're welcome once again Ray. By the way, the Kowboys always have a great spread of food at halftime even if that has be shared with the booster club.
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13 hours ago, Beek said:
Through my athletic director and direct phone calls as our assigner refuses to use email.
I think I know who you are talking about with the man refusing to use email. If you are not getting some of the answers or solutions that you are looking for, your school should consider your options. Geographically, you have an advantage in that aspect.
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On 11/1/2022 at 11:05 AM, Ray Icaza said:
Many years ago I remember us struggling with poor officiating and just like you tried the proper channels to no avail. We eventually had to resort to the other side of the coin that Jambun implied a threat with and that is making a decision which were the absolute worse refs and scratching them so they couldn't step foot in OUR GYM. That at least mitigated having to deal with that handful of individuals you knew were the most problematic.
Since Kissimmee Osceola is a public school, it is not YOUR GYM, the gym belongs to the taxpayers. I never get tired of teaching you lessons Ray, this time in Civics. You're welcome as usual.
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On 11/1/2022 at 12:01 AM, Beek said:
We have been trying to work this out for the last 5 or more years. We will continue to try. But all requests seem to fall on deaf ears.
How are you approaching the leadership of your Officials Association?
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On 10/31/2022 at 12:41 PM, Perspective said:
Jambun,
So, what is your suggestion? How should a coach like Beek address what he perceives to be obvious officiating errors? Who should he contact? It sounds like when he brings the matter to the officiating organization, they blow him off (and basically tell him his team isn't good enough to deserve good officials or even a full squad). But when he puts the plays out there for public consumption, in what appears to be a fairly respectful way, he's being told by the one official on the board that this is "counterproductive."
So, I'm asking you, how would you suggest a disgruntled coach deal with this situation -- especially one that appears to repeat itself game after game?
My suggestion to Beek is to request a face-to-face meeting with the assigner and supervisor of the Officials Association that his school uses. If he is "blown off" as he claims, by the way the ghosts of Clarence Darrow and F. Lee Bailey know that "blown off" is a fairly loose term and everyone has a different interpretation of what that would mean, he should get together with his Athletic Director and consider their options regarding officials for their home games. Possibly contacting another Officials Association when the current contract expires.
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Badbird, you WILL be excited for all of the State Championship games over the next two weeks. I expect and demand nothing less!