Jambun82
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Hello, does anyone know what Officials Association services this area? Also, aren't most of the schools isolated from other towns and cities? I attended a playoff game at Glades Central 20 years ago, and I remember the school and football field being in the middle of nowhere.
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3 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
I have changed my tune a bit about transfers after diving into the details. Even if it was fair game to modify, I question if it is worth the energy to manage transfers. IMO, transfers are not making teams great. They are making great teams greater. Even if no transfers were happening, I believe most of the teams doing most of the winning now would still be at the top.
What needs attention are the programs that are floundering( and there are a ton of them), not the relatively few schools that are getting "richer" from transfers. Taking away their transfers is not necessarily going to fix the parity problem long-term. We have some schools that opened 20 years ago whose football programs don't appear to be much further along than when they opened up the doors. Sure, they might lose a good athlete via a transfer, but if losing 1 or 2 players is causing a whole program to crater for the year, something much deeper is wrong. A broader intervention than "fixing the transfer problem" is needed.
With increasing concerns related to safety, we need a game that attracts "average-sized" kids, ie 150 pounds, to play. If someone sent a 150-pound kid out on the mat to wrestle a 350-pounder, people would think it was crazy. But there are some who want to throw the "overprotective parent" card on those who have the same concerns on the football field.
In a relatively short-time frame we are seeing lineman weighing 100 pounds more. This is a huge change in the game, yet we have done little to address the safety concerns. I firmly believe some of these programs are floundering because good athletes that would have dressed out 30 years ago are not playing now. ...not necessarily 3-star players, but kids good enough to make the team reasonably competitive.
I believe that this is a great point about a big part of the problems with high school football in the state of Florida. A lot of posters on the message board are so obsessed with transfers, but there are many deeper issues than that. I worry about the quality of football across the state.
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6 hours ago, TitanUp said:
However holding a jersey or grabbing at the WR arms while face guarding is a penalty. Correct?
Correct. That is not considered face guarding, that is pass interference. This game was played at Walt Disney correct?
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TitanUp, non-contact face guarding is no longer a pass-interference foul in National Federation rules.
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9 hours ago, 561_Fan said:
Is illegal formation a loss of down??? And if the opponent score would you decline the penalty?
...PK should've still won. Didnt allow a first down in the second half and had the ball at the 50 with 4+ minutes left in the game
No, an Illegal Formation is not a loss of down penalty. You didn't mention that Pahokee scored on the play in your post. You just said that there was a penalty on fourth down. Did the player who was ejected have two unsportsmanlike fouls in the game?
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On 8/17/2018 at 6:09 PM, 561_Fan said:
These have to be the worst officials in the history of football...a 4th down penalty on PK and they give PV the ball. Don't replay the down or anything.
561_Fan, what exactly was the foul on the fourth down committed by Pahokee? Park Vista does have the right to decline the penalty. What else about the officiating did you have problems with?
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19 hours ago, Dan in Daytona said:
NSB (6A) needs a new Head Coach. Doesn't Wilk live in that area, now ? .....just saying, no info
Great point Dan, you are correct about your question.
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Jeff McLean wasn't the head coach for 34 years at Merritt Island. Gerald Odom won multiple state titles and close to 200 victories at Merritt Island alone.
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On 1/25/2018 at 8:30 AM, peezy28 said:
Yeah I am not sure I get the sentiment of not playing to the whistle... If that is the case just take the whistle out of it all together and let them play until someone is on the ground... I am with badbird if there is a player running free and play has not stopped I need my players to go get him and vice versa.
That is the point that I am trying to make. If coaches wouldn't stress "playing to the whistle" all the time, officials can use the whistle less, and there can be less instances of a premature or inadvertent whistle. If a runner is clearly down of out of the field of play, and the scrimmage down is over, that can be seen by players, and officials can hold off several seconds on blowing the whistle.
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In the past, I have tried to explain why coaches and players talking about "playing to the whistle" is incorrect, and how the whistle rarely, if ever, ends a play. This past Sunday, there was a perfect example of what I am trying to explain. Myles Jack stripped the football and recovered the fumble from Dion Lewis, was not touched as he rolled on the turf, and got up to advance where he most likely would have scored a touchdown. This probably would have given the Jaguars a three-score lead, and would have possibly iced the game for Jacksonville. However, the wing official felt the need to blow his whistle immediately meaning that the play could not be reviewed and correctly ruled a touchdown. The whistle is NOT needed in football like it is needed in the game of basketball, and we need to get away from the concept of "play to the whistle" that coaches feel the need to teach their players. I hope that I have made my point clear.
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Badbird, what you have described is bad sportsmanship, and it is a shame that you cannot recognize it. There are no "enemies" in the game of football, and phrases like that have no place in our discussion. I am very thankful that I do not have to communicate with many coaches who have your attitude, and that we are changing the way that the game of football is taught to be understood by young people today.
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On 1/10/2018 at 1:29 PM, badbird said:
What happened to #8?
1) The player's hair fit under their helmets. Who cares what their hair looks like
2) No tattoos could be seen. Who cares if they have tatoos
3) There were no outlandish end zone celebrations. that's the NFL penalties still in college and high school
4) There was no taunting. That's a flag and should be controlled by the ref
5) Opposition players helped each other up after a play. Football is a violent sport helping the opposition up in times of battle is not necessary
6) Footballs were not spiked or left for the referee to retrieve; they were handed to the referee. Also a flag
7) No one took a knee on the sidelines. I bet they did just not during the anthem, I think both teams take a knee and pray.
9) Players stood at attention during the playing of the national anthem. It would be great to have some respect back in this country but that was gone a long time ago. I don't agree with the kneeling during the national anthem but I do agree with their right to protest I just think it should be done another way.
10) It was great to watch an Army/Navy game. The Army/Navy game is great but not for the 8 reasons mentioned above. It is great because you usually have undersized men, not as athletic but giving it their all to make up for what they lack in physical ability. These men usually have high character and will serve and lead our country one day. They play it for the love of the game.
Badbird, if you think that football should be a "violent" sport, and showing good sportsmanship by helping an opponent up is not necessary because the game of football is a "battle", then I believe that you are severely misguided.
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3 hours ago, peezy28 said:
Looks like a nice enough feller... I don't know why he dont like me
I am assuming that this is some kind of joke at my expense. I hope that you had a good laugh. lol
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I am very happy for the Dr. Phillips Panthers, as well as Head Coach Rodney Wells. Coach Wells is one of the real gentlemen coaches in High School Football. He has a well-earned reputation for treating people with respect and dignity.
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Peezy, I think that it would be best that you did not respond to me or address me on this message board anymore. Thank you.
18 hours ago, peezy28 said:Dude you got too sensitive... truth is I don't care about peoples feelings on this board or that one. I just say what I feel if people are offended so be it... Oh and to your point.. Yeah they are no rules over there... we make them up as we go LMAO. Again welcome to the board.
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Blindside blocks are now illegal unless the offending player extends his arms, and makes first contact with the blocked player with his hands.
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14 hours ago, Joshua Wilson said:
@Jambun82 Welcome! Glad to have you here!
Along with myself as well as @SportsNut25 & @ColumbiaHighFan2017class as moderators, I expect nothing less than keeping the ship sailing right. The message board is an extension of the entire FloridaHSFootball.com brand and I only expect nothing but the best!
The funny (ugly) business can stay over on the other site...
As for the rest who have shown your support, I do much appreciate that!
Thank you very much Josh. I am looking forward to it.
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All right, that sounds good. Thank you.
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1 hour ago, 954gator said:
Lol I get wanting to beat STA, but these Venice refs lol. Disgrace.
954gator, the officials for the playoffs are not associated with Venice or STA. What problems do you have with the officiating in the game?
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1 hour ago, Dan in Daytona said:
Jam, welcome aboard. Lots of coverage here, low confrontation zone, controlled management.
Thank you Dan. If you ever get around to attending a Daytona State College Basketball game, and I am at the table, feel free to come and say hello.
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23 hours ago, Proseteye said:
Hello Again Jambun. What took you so long?
I left the previous board for the same reason you did. As I remember, everything that you posted was very comprehensive and more importantly you stayed on the subject of HS football, unlike a few others. You will find this forum totally different as most of the folks here are good people. Joshua runs a tight ship and stops any kind of funny business before it gets started. Contrary to popular opinion, Columbia is one of the most knowledgeable posters here and I think he's just a young fellow.
Welcome aboard.
Proseteye, thank you very much and it is good to talk to you again as well. As much as I complain, you have a much stronger argument for the way that many posters spoke to you at that message board. OTC never has to apologize for being a successful program. I have always enjoyed speaking with you, and what you have to say, and I look forward to reconnecting with you again.
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6 hours ago, peezy28 said:
Actually JAMBUN we are here too AND if you listened to me on the numerous times you tried to get upset with me I GAVE YOU the link to this board... Multiple times... Told if you don't want to post on Flavarsity then post here... but we are here too... so is Dan. Have fun.
We now have a resident FHSAA official on the board folks so send all of your Officiating questions complaints his way LOL.
Peezy, I did not appreciate the way that you spoke or treated me on that other message board. I read and agreed with the rules of this message board, and I feel that Josh Wilson is a moderator that has a good grip on things here.
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Thank you Cat Scratch, it is good to see you on this message board along with some of the other posters, who I wondered what had happened to. I have learned, and been informed in the few hours that I have been here, and I look forward to more great discussions.
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On 11/20/2017 at 10:40 AM, Sharkbait said:
I have noticed traditionally "black" schools getting flagged more in games when you have an all white officiating crew.
Sharkbait, what type of fouls do you notice in this circumstance? Are the fouls called mostly false starts, encroachments, illegal shifts, illegal motions, etc?
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Yes, I agree, and we also need to envy Jessica's husband, and hope that he realizes what are truly lucky man he is! Jessica has always been a treasure and a great source of knowledge and wisdom. I only wish that she gave more thoughts and opinions on subjects beyond 3A.