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    • No where to go but up for my Sarasota Sailors.  Anchors Aweigh!
    • Yeah, one more score could have put it away. 
    • Looking around at some programs I know of who typically are considered bad, I notice a few had winning seasons this year and/or last year, and even made the playoffs.  They didn't need to be relegated down to find success.  They got better on their on.  Also,  you and I both know FHSAA ability to take a system and make it worse. There's some really good programs who aren't quite "elite ". Consistent winning seasons and playoff appearances but don't  quite win a championship.  Those would be punished under a system that moves them up. 
    • Sorted by Number of appearances & championships since 1963. School County Region State Titles Runner-Up Appearances Last Title Last App Notes St. Thomas Aquinas Broward Southeast 17 8 25 2025 2025   Bolles Duval Northeast 11 9 20 2011 2025   Chaminade Broward Southeast 9 5 14 2024 2025   Glades Day Palm Beach Southeast 7 7 14 2010 2010   Madison County Madison Northwest 7 6 13 2024 2024   Lakeland Polk West Central 9 3 12 2023 2025   University Christian Duval Northeast 9 3 12 2016 2020   Trinity Christian Duval Northeast 9 2 11 2021 2021   Miami Northwestern Dade Southeast 8 3 11 2024 2025   North Florida Christian Leon Northwest 8 3 11 2018 2018   Miami Central Dade Southeast 9 1 10 2022 2022   Cocoa Brevard East Central 7 3 10 2024 2024   Pahokee Palm Beach Southeast 7 3 10 2016 2016   Glades Central Palm Beach Southeast 6 4 10 2006 2010   Armwood Hillsborough West Central 3 7 10 2011 2018   American Heritage(Plantation) Broward Southeast 7 2 9 2025 2025   Baker  Okaloosa Panhandle 5 4 9 2020 2020   Fort Meade Polk West Central 1 8 9 2004 2008   Blountstown Calhoun Panhandle 3 5 8 1977 2025   Washington (Miami) Dade Southeast 6 1 7 2019 2019   Manatee Manatee West Central 5 2 7 2011 2011   Miami Carol City Dade Southeast 5 2 7 2016 2016   Champagnat Catholic Dade Southeast 4 3 7 2020 2021   Port St. Joe Gulf Panhandle 4 3 7 2014 2015   Raines Duval Northeast 4 3 7 2025 2025   American Heritage(Delray) Palm Beach Southeast 3 4 7 2011 2015   Apopka Orange East Central 3 4 7 2014 2022   Christopher Columbus Dade Southeast 3 4 7 2023 2023   Frostproof Polk West Central 3 4 7 1999 1999   Pine Forest Escambia Panhandle 3 4 7 2000 2021   Osceola (Kissimmee) Osceola East Central 1 6 7 1998 2024   Miami Southridge  Dade Southeast 2.5 4 7 2016 2016 Co-Champs 1991 Jefferson County Jefferson Northwest 5.5 0 6 2011 2011 Co-Champs 1982 Godby Leon Northwest 4 2 6 2012 2014   Plant  Hillsborough West Central 4 2 6 2011 2016   Venice Sarasota West Central 4 2 6 2024 2024   Hawthorne Alachua North 3 3 6 2025 2025   Trinity Catholic Marion North 2 4 6 2010 2023   Clewiston Hendry Southwest 0.5 5 6 1982 2006 Co-Champs 1982 FAMU Leon Northwest 4 1 5 2006 2007   Suwannee Suwannee Northwest 4 1 5 1990 1999   Lincoln Leon Northwest 3 2 5 2010 2012   Merritt Island Brevard East Central 3 2 5 1979 2021   Union County Union North 3 2 5 1996 2003   Dillard Broward Southeast 2 3 5 1989 2000   Leon Leon Northwest 2 3 5 1974 1992   Southeast Manatee West Central 2 3 5 1994 1994   Wakulla Wakulla Northwest 2 3 5 1981 2015   Atlantic Palm Beach Southeast 0 5 5 N / A 2017   Edgewater Orange East Central 0 5 5 N / A 2020   Coral Gables Dade Southeast 4 0 4 1968 1968   Cardinal Gibbons Broward Southeast 3 1 4 2021 2021   Bradford Bradford Northeast 2 2 4 1966 2023   Escambia Escambia Panhandle 2 2 4 1985 2019   Graceville Jackson Panhandle 2 2 4 1993 2005   Miami Norland Dade Southeast 2 2 4 2011 2023   Wildwood Sumter North 2 2 4 1970 1985   St. Augustine St. John's Northeast 1 3 4 2005 2023   Victory Christian Polk West Central 1 3 4 2014 2019   Benjamin Palm Beach Southeast 0 4 4 N / A 1994   Clearwater Central Catholic Pinellas West Central 0 4 4 N / A 2024   Bartow Polk West Central 3 0 3 1996 1996   Cardinal Mooney Sarasota West Central 3 0 3 2025 2025   Avon Park Highlands West Central 2 1 3 1988 1988   Dwyer Palm Beach Southeast 2 1 3 2013 2013   Jesuit Hillsborough West Central 2 1 3 2021 2021   Mainland Volusia East Central 2 1 3 2023 2023   Milton Santa Rosa Panhandle 2 1 3 1979 1979   Naples Collier Southwest 2 1 3 2007 2007   Santa Fe Alachua North 2 1 3 1994 1994   Titusville Brevard East Central 2 1 3 1983 1983   Trenton Gilchrist North 2 1 3 2015 2015   Woodham Escambia Panhandle 2 1 3 1984 1985 Now a Middle School  Columbia Columbia North  1 2 3 1967 1997   Dr. Phillips Orange East Central 1 2 3 2017 2017   Haines City Polk West Central 1 2 3 1973 1991   Holmes County Holmes Panhandle 1 2 3 1965 1987   Jefferson   Hillsborough West Central 1 2 3 2010 2010   Lake Wales Polk West Central 1 2 3 2022 2022   Nease St. John's Northeast 1 2 3 2005 2007   Niceville Okaloosa Panhandle 1 2 3 1988 2013   Hardee Hardee West Central 0 3 3 N / A 1995   Jones Orange East Central 0 3 3 N / A 2025   Lake Gibson Polk West Central 0 3 3 N / A 2016   Warner Christian Volusia East Central 0 3 3 N / A 2010   Bishop Moore Orange East Central 2 0 2 2015 2015   Carver Palm Beach Southeast 2 0 2 1969 1969 Now a Middle School  Dunnellon Marion North 2 0 2 1979 1979   Forest Marion North 2 0 2 1975 1975   Fort Walton Beach Okaloosa Panhandle 2 0 2 1995 1995   Hastings St. John's Northeast 2 0 2 1971 1971 Closed 1985 Jupiter Christian Palm Beach Southeast 2 0 2 2008 2008   Palm Bay Brevard East Central 2 0 2 2002 2002   Rockledge Brevard East Central 2 0 2 2002 2002   Seminole (Sanford) Seminole East Central 2 0 2 2020 2020   West Boca Raton Palm Beach Southeast 2 0 2 2025 2025   Bay Bay Panhandle 1 1 2 1976 1993   Berkeley Prep Hillsborough West Central 1 1 2 2023 2023   Choctawhatchee Okaloosa Panhandle 1 1 2 1990 1990   Clay Clay Northeast 1 1 2 1967 2013   Ely Broward Southeast 1 1 2 2002 2002   Eustis Lake North 1 1 2 1983 1983   Fort Pierce Central St. Lucie East Central 1 1 2 1971 1971   Gainesville Alachua North 1 1 2 1980 2012   Gulliver Prep Dade Southeast 1 1 2 2000 2008   Immokalee Collier Southwest 1 1 2 2004 2012   Lafayette Lafayette Northwest 1 1 2 1981 1997   Lake Mary Seminole East Central 1 1 2 2025 2025   Mandarin Duval Northeast 1 1 2 2018 2023   Melbourne Brevard East Central 1 1 2 1966 1966   Miramar Broward Southeast 1 1 2 2009 2011   Northview Escambia Panhandle 1 1 2 2012 2022   Palatka Putnam Northeast 1 1 2 1981 1983   Palmetto Manatee West Central 1 1 2 1975 1986   Taylor County Taylor Northwest 1 1 2 1997 1997   University (Ft. Lauderdale) Broward Southeast 1 1 2 2012 2012   Vero Beach Indian River East Central 1 1 2 1981 2025   Walton Walton Panhandle 1 1 2 1985 1985   Westminster Academy Broward Southeast 1 1 2 1990 1991   Bishop Verot Lee Southwest 0 2 2 N / A 1994   Clermont Lake North 0 2 2 N / A 1980 Merged- Now South Lake Dunedin Pinellas West Central 0 2 2 N / A 1987   Florida High Leon Northwest 0 2 2 N / A 2022   Hamilton County Hamilton Northwest 0 2 2 N / A 2014   Homestead Dade Southeast 0 2 2 N / A 2023   Newberry Alachua North 0 2 2 N / A 2007   Riverview (Sarasota) Sarasota West Central 0 2 2 N / A 1990   Robinson Hillsborough West Central 0 2 2 N / A 1971   Rutherford Bay Panhandle 0 2 2 N / A 1999   Shorecrest Pinellas West Central 0 2 2 N / A 1976   Tampa Catholic Hillsborough West Central 0 2 2 N / A 2009   Trinity Prep Orange East Central 0 2 2 N / A 1977   Williston Levy North 0 2 2 N / A 1988   Wolfson Duval Northeast 0 2 2 N / A 1968   Blake Hillsborough West Central 1 0 1 1969 1969   Buchholz Alachua North 1 0 1 1990 1990   Cardinal Newman Palm Beach Southeast 1 0 1 2025 2025   Chapman Franklin Northwest 1 0 1 1968 1968 Now an Elementary School Chiefland Levy North 1 0 1 1997 1997   Ernest Ward (McDavid) Escambia Panhandle 1 0 1 1979 1979 Merged- Now  Northview High Evangel Christian Polk West Central 1 0 1 2005 2005 Defunct-Now Victory Christian First Baptist Collier Southwest 1 0 1 2022 2022   Flanagan Broward Southeast 1 0 1 2015 2015   Greensboro Gadsden Northwest 1 0 1 1975 1975   Hialeah Miami Lakes Dade Southeast 1 0 1 1975 1975   Hollywood Hills Broward Southeast 1 0 1 1973 1973   Miami Dade Southeast 1 0 1 1965 1965   Miami Edison Dade Southeast 1 0 1 1970 1970   Miami Killian Dade Southeast 1 0 1 2004 2004   Monsignor Pace Dade Southeast 1 0 1 2003 2003   Palm Beach Gardens Palm Beach Southeast 1 0 1 2005 2005   Pasco Pasco West Central 1 0 1 1992 1992   Pensacola Escambia Panhandle 1 0 1 2009 2009   Pinecrest (Lithia) Hillsborough West Central 1 0 1 1969 1969 Closed South Dade Dade Southeast 1 0 1 2013 2013   Tate Escambia Panhandle 1 0 1 1980 1980   Washington (Pensacola) Escambia Panhandle 1 0 1 1994 1994   Evans Orange East Central 0.5 0 1 1991 1991 Co-Champs 1991 Admiral Farragut  Pinellas West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2011   Astronaut Brevard East Central 0 1 1 N / A 2000   Auburndale Polk West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1967   Baker County Baker Northeast 0 1 1 N / A 2017   Bartram Trail St. John's Northeast 0 1 1 N / A 2017   Belen Jesuit Dade Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 2009   Booker Sarasota West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2005   Boone Orange East Central 0 1 1 N / A 2007   Brandon Hillsborough West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1969   Branford Suwannee Northwest 0 1 1 N / A 1974   Cambridge (Tampa) Hillsborough West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2015   Century Escambia Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 1986 Merged- Now Northview High Chamberlain Hillsborough West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2001   Chipley Washington Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 2011   Crestview Okaloosa Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 2002   Cypress Bay Broward Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 2012   Dade Christian Dade Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 2012   Deerfield Beach Broward Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 2005   DeLand Volusia East Central 0 1 1 N / A 2009   Dixie County Dixie Northwest 0 1 1 N / A 1971   Dixie Hollins Pinellas West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1995 Now Hollins Estero Lee Southwest 0 1 1 N / A 1998   First Coast Duval Northeast 0 1 1 N / A 2011   Fort Lauderdale Broward Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 1966   Gadsden County Gadsden Northwest 0 1 1 N / A 2024   Groveland Lake North 0 1 1 N / A 1970 Merged- Now South Lake Hillsborough Hillsborough West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1996   Indian Rocks Christian Pinellas West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2014   Kathleen Polk West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1968   Key West Monroe Southwest 0 1 1 N / A 1989   King’s Academy Palm Beach Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 2018   LaBelle Hendry Southwest 0 1 1 N / A 1995   Lake Brantley Seminole East Central 0 1 1 N / A 2006   Lake Minneola Lake North 0 1 1 N / A 2020   Leesburg Lake North 0 1 1 N / A 1969   Lely Collier Southwest 0 1 1 N / A 1987   Liberty County Liberty Northwest 0 1 1 N / A 1969   Marianna Jackson Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 2000   Miami Beach Dade Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 1974   Moore Haven Glades Southwest 0 1 1 N / A 1968   Mosley Bay Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 1981   North Marion Marion North 0 1 1 N / A 2018   Oxbridge Academy Palm Beach Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 2017   Pensacola Catholic Escambia Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 2004   Plantation Broward Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 1966   Ponte Vedra St. John's Northeast 0 1 1 N / A 2016   Rickards Leon Northwest 0 1 1 N / A 2020   Robert E Lee Duval Northeast 0 1 1 N / A 1964 Now Westside Sandalwood Duval Northeast 0 1 1 N / A 1995   Shanks Gadsden Northwest 0 1 1 N / A 1970 Merged- Now Gadsden County South Sumter Sumter North 0 1 1 N / A 2005   St. Edward's Indian River East Central 0 1 1 N / A 1989   St. Petersburg Pinellas West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1984   Suncoast Palm Beach Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 1981   Tampa Bay Tech Hillsborough West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2021   Tarpon Springs Pinellas West Central 0 1 1 N / A 1986   Vanguard Marion North 0 1 1 N / A 1994   Viera (Melbourne) Brevard East Central 0 1 1 N / A 2015   West Broward Broward Southeast 0 1 1 N/A 2025   Westminster Christian Dade Southeast 0 1 1 N / A 1973   Wewahitchka Gulf Panhandle 0 1 1 N / A 1972   Wharton Hillsborough West Central 0 1 1 N / A 2002  
    • Yes, and several others as well. Do well-coached teams commit penalties like that in the 15-or so game in the season? 
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