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3 hours ago, Legion37 said:
Got mine from Go Fan, thanks for the info...
Get Naught-Y
With Lakeland selling their 1000 tickets, plus the ones out of Armwood's allotment they bought from GoFan, the Lakeland side will be ridiculously packed. Those stands may hold 500-600. Then add in the band.......I'm thinking I may wear neutral clothing and sit on the Armwood side.
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6 hours ago, skyway said:
My thoughts on Lakeland @Armwood:
I really am trying to give as objective a take here as possible. I type this assuming the best OL (Lampkin) and best DL (Glinton) are out for Lakeland.
One will be back. One is questionable.
6 hours ago, skyway said:Armwood Offense:
Spread attack with excellent skill position players, namely 2021 5* WR Agiye Hall. The offense does have a record of questionable to poor performances in big games the last couple of years. Way too much talent on the field for them to count on them not scoring much, however.
Armwood's offense managed 14 points against Bloomingdale, off of 4 interceptions (The 5th INT was a pick-6) and multiple possessions on Bloomingdale's side of the field. They ran for 57 yards total for the game. Their two offensive touchdowns were on longer pass plays.
6 hours ago, skyway said:Prediction:
This may be the hardest game to read (objectively, anyway) for Lakeland that I can recall in many years. I've expected Lakeland's D to largely be able to control Armwood's offense. But, last week's game (indeed largely impacted by numerous 15 yard penalties, a style of offense/personnel that's a bad match up, and no Ryshawn Glinton or Lampkin) raises questions for Lakeland. On offense, Bill Castle can dial up some ball plays. And he's got the best RB he's ever had to ride. But, Armwood's D is built to stop the run. And they have a very highly regarded D-coordinator. Without Willie Lampkin, I don't see Lakeland being able to win the LOS to enough of a degree to get the job done. In the kicking game, the lack of a reliable field-goal kicking unit also may hurt Lakeland against a defense that prides itself on keeping teams out of the end zone.
The formula for Lakeland to win involves the defense creating scores and/or short fields off turnovers and the kicking game generating big returns. The formula for Armwood to win involves much of the same. Armwood is at home. They don't usually have much of a home-field advantage. But, for the biggest game they've hosted in ~15 years, they will have a boisterous crowd.
Lakeland will find themselves inside the Armwood 20 several times, but will be turned away on many of them without a sufficient kicking game against a stout defense. Armwood will get one big play TD, one short field TD, and a FG. Lakeland will get a TD with a botched EP and a TD late while trailing 17-6 to close to 17-12. Armwood wins 17-12.
It's going to come down to discipline. If Lakeland gets 166 yards in penalties again, they will lose. If they can play a clean game......we'll see.
Don't look for Lakeland to throw the ball much, and especially give the ball to Armwood 5 times off of INTs. The best way for Lakeland to stretch Armwood's defense out is getting Arian Smith outside. If that can open up the slightest hole for Bowman, he'll have a good night.
As far as home field advantage....something tells me that a good chunk of the crowd there will have little to no rooting interest for either team. They are just there to watch the game. Armwood limited tickets to 2500 total for the game. But with the limited stands they have there, it should be standing room only.
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I would love for Lakeland to play a tougher schedule, purely for the entertainment value. But for all the people who fall over themselves trying to justify that playing a harder schedule is the only way to win state........Lakeland had one of the easiest schedules in the state last year.....and still won the tough games when needed......by at least two scores, if not more.
I just find it laughable the consistent attempt to bring Lakeland down....on a message board.
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4 minutes ago, LakelandGator said:4. Jace Hohenthaner--0 star 2017 and 2018 teams. Dad's job relocated to area, signed with Northern Illinois
Side note....I talked with Jace's Dad last year. The biggest reason he transferred to Lakeland was the FFA program. He didnt even play much behind Jesse Williams his junior year.
Like I've said before.....I had a couple of the higher profile transfers tell me that their reason for transferring was going deep in the playoffs and playing tougher competition. They felt playing a 10 game schedule with games against Teneroc and Lake Region was not getting them ready for what they would see in college. And.....they get better coaching at Lakeland. Period. Look at the 0 star players that Lakeland has had over the years that end up being 2-3 star players by the end of the year and getting alot of college interest.
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1 minute ago, Legion37 said:
Well Lakeland leads American Colligate 49-0 at half time. I'm not sure why this game was scheduled or who wanted this. American has a total of 30 players.
But there it is...
This was a terrible choice to schedule this game. I know alot of teams didnt want to play Lakeland, but......
Their RB is good....but they have a Pop Warner OL.
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2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Public schools have done just fine against private schools, winning about 50% of the games(38 wins vs 40 losses) they have played against private schools in state finals. Public schools actually had the edge until this decade. As you'll see below, most of the well-known private school programs have been victims of at least one whoopin' of 21 points or more by a public school program in a state final or other playoff game. Prior to 2000, St Thomas and Bolles were the only private schools having routine success in the large classes. The vast majority of private schools have had moderate success in the playoffs over their histories, ie Cardinal Gibbons. Current powerhouses like Chaminade were doormats in the 80's and 90's. IMO, a relative few powerhouse private school programs that get LOTS of attention have blown the whole public/private thing out of proportion. And had those schools not benefited from some rather favorable playoff paths over the years, their success might not have been nearly as great.
All of the games below were state finals unless noted
*playoff game (not a state final)
1971 Class A Hastings 34 Trinity Prep/Orlando 7
1974 Class 3A Ocala Forest 46 Chaminade 6
1977 Class A FAMU 59 Trinity Prep/Orlando 7
1978 Class A FAMU 45 WPB Benjamin 6
1980 Class 4A Tate 35 Miami Columbus 7
1984 Class A Baker 48 Glades Day 7
1985 Class A Baker 33 Glades Day 0
1990 Class 3A Suwanee 44 Cardinal Gibbons 14
1991 Class 4A Fort Walton Beach 39 St Thomas Aquinas 14
1994 Class 3A Union County 21 Bishop Verot 0
1996 Class 4A Lakeland 40 St Thomas Aquinas 6
*1999 Class A Trenton 45 University Christian 18
2004 Class 5A Lakeland 31 St Thomas Aquinas 7
2004 Class 2B Pahokee 43 Pensacola Catholic 9
2005 Class 5A Lakeland 39 St Thomas Aquinas 10
*2006 Class 2B Pahokee 48 Cardinal Mooney 0
2007 Class 2A Madison County 28 Tampa Catholic 7
*2007 Class 2B Frostproof 32 Clearwater Central Catholic 10
2009 Class 3A Pensacola 28 Miami Belen Jesuit 7
*2011 Class 5A Pasco 31 Tampa Jesuit 7
2012 Class 4A Booker T Washington 35 Bolles 7
Please list all the games where a private has won over a public.
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3 hours ago, Proseteye said:
Then when a parent's son becomes a regular fixture on the bench and/or their son, when he does play, gets hit full force by one of those 300 lb Kenworth's, they then start to realize., hey this is not the high school football team that I used to play on.
That 300 lb player will still be playing for A team. Whether he's playing for team A (stacked with talent), or team B (Not stacked), I don't think that increases or decreases his chances of injuring someone. Kids have gotten bigger over the years. Look at college football. 60 years ago, the college football teams of today would severely out-weigh even the heaviest of NFL teams.
I'm not necessarily a fan of the 'Stacked" super teams. But, I had it explained to me this way by a player:
He was on Team A. That team is historically not good and doesn't put much effort in their football program. He sees team B where he has a chance to play against tougher competition that will get him ready for the competition in college and give him more exposure playing against tough competition. Plus, has a coaching staff that actively pushes their kids out to colleges. Which would you choose?I would love for county teams to play against each other year in and year out with close games. That is what I grew up on. But, with the introduction of the Private School model in the late 80's/early 90's, it changed everything. If you want public schools to only have kids in their designated school zone, you may have parity during the season, but those teams will get manhandled come playoff time.
The FHSAA would need to either: 1. Put all 'Private' schools (schools with no official boundaries) in their own class, or 2. Set up 'official' boundaries for private schools.
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Lakeland 36 - K. Osceola - 0
3 minutes into the 2nd quarter.
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Lakeland 30 - Osceola - 0, Start of the 2nd QUARTER
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10 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
1912 besides the forfeit loss to Ft Meade, if any games were played
I'm pretty certain this was it. There was an article in the 9/10/1912 Tampa Tribune about Hillsborough not having any challenges and specifically mentioned Lakeland not fielding a team. I think the Ft. Meade game was an attempt. The newspaper article indicates the game was possibly played.....but awarded by forfeit to Ft. Meade.
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3 hours ago, FL_HS_football said:
Manatee wasn't the defending 4A state Champ they played 5A in 1993, as they were beaten by Miami Southridge 69-36 in the 5A state title game in 1993. Also Manatee wasn't the district champ in 1994. Bradenton Southeast was the 1993 and 1994 4A state title champ..... also from Manatee County. Think about this for a moment, before all this open transfer movement, you had 2 teams Manatee and Southeast from the same county in the states 2 largest classifications play for or win state titles 1992-1994 and did the same in 1985.
There were also only 4 high schools in Manatee County at that time.
Manatee had all of west Bradenton.....and oddly a small part of Palmetto, as their district.
Palmetto had Palmetto (the part not reserved for Manatee) and Parrish
Southeast had the entire east side out to Myakka City
And Bayshore had........whatever was left.If there were no Braden River or Lakewood Ranch.....Southeast would likely have a dynasty....and a very overcrowded school.
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4 hours ago, Perspective said:
Dang you guys have good memories.
Thankfully I'm not that old......yet..
Alot of research. Prior to the 1930's, record keeping wasn't the best. Plus, I think Lakeland lost a lot of their records when the original school burned down. Luckily, the newspapers have, for the most part, been digitized.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
Thank you so much. I read that they didn’t field a team in 1917, 1918 and 1919.
But they did in 1916 they went 3-3 if I’m not mistaken
They tried a couple of times in '17-'19. I show a couple of games scheduled, but it was no more than one a year. The administration at Lakeland was opposed to having a football team. Back then it was quite a dangerous sport and they didn't want that at Lakeland.
Here is what I have for 1916:
Nickname "The Yellow & Black"
9/26 Lost to Plant City 0-48
10/6 Beat Lake City 26-0
10/13 Beat Hillsborough 42-0
10/20 Lost to Orlando 0-50
10/27 Beat Brooksville 33-7
11/3 Lost to Braidentown (Manatee) 0-13
11/10 Lost to Plant City 0-20
11/18 Lost to St. Petersburg 0-12
11/24 Tied Brooksville 7-7
11/30 Beat Kissimmee 7-0
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39 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
So based on what you just posted I have......
1908 scoreless tie with Orlando. I thought Plant City didn’t field a team until 1914?
There was an article in the Tampa Tribune promoting a Lakeland/Plant City game on Christmas day, 1908. It's possible the game wasn't 'official' for Plant City.1909 I have what you have plus a forfeit win to a team called “Fort DeSoto” and also a loss to them 16-0.
I'll have to see if I can find articles for those.1912 I have forfeit loss to Ft Meade. Game never was played
Correct. Lakeland didn't make the trip.1920 I have the same 3 scores
1922 you have a 6-1 record but only list 6 games. I have them beating Lake City 14-0 as well
Yep. I skipped over the Lake City game.1924 I have them beating Hillsborough 14-6
According to the schedule in the yearbook and newspaper articles, they didn't play Hillsborough in '241925 I have them losing to the Stetson U Scrubs 26-0
If they played this game, it wasn't counted in the official records. Lakeland and Duval were going to play for the state Championship....but the game never got scheduled. It was being talked about as late as January of '26 to play a championship game. But it never happened. -
19 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
I have Lakeland at 10-0-1 this year
Yeah. So do I. Not sure where I got 8-0-1 from.
1908 - These results are kind of spotty. From what I can find, Lakeland went 3-1-1 with wins over Tampa (11-0), Orlando (Unknown score), and Plant City (unknown). Loss was to Tampa (5-12) and tie was to Orlando.
1909 - Spotty as well. I have 2 Wins over Wachula (41-0 & 37-0), And a loss to HIllsborough (0-16). There were a couple of other games....but I haven't found scores yet.
1910 - I don't think there were any 'official' games in 1910
1911 - I don't think there were any 'official' games in 1911
1912 - I found one game they lost against Ft. Meade. Not sure of the score
1920 - Found three games, all losses. Plant City (0-25), St. Pete (0-34), Palmetto (0-53).
1921 - New team nickname was "The Orange & Black". Record I have found is 6-3
10/1/21 Lost to St. Pete 20-28
10/7/21 Lost to Plant City 0-13 (Plant City later forfeited due to ineligible players)
10/14/21 Beat Arcadia 57-0
10/21/21 Beat Lake City 26-0
10/28/21 Beat Orlando 26-0
11/4/21 Beat Ft. Meyers 26-0
11/11/21 Lost to Bartow 21-3
11/19/21 Palmetto claims a forfeit game after Lakeland doesn't show up to play them.
Thanksgiving - Game scheduled against Ft. Meade cancelled
12/2/21 Beat a 'Town Team' 20-01922 (6-1)
9/29 Beat Bradentown (Manatee) 72-0
10/6 Beat Arcadia 38-0
10/13 Beat St. Pete 12-0
10/22 Lost to Gainesville 0-7
11/11 Beat Bartow 20-6
11/17 Beat Clearwater 57-01924 (5-3-1)
9/26 Beat St. Leo 19-9
10/3 Beat Clearwater 40-0
10/10 Beat Sacred Heart 13-0
10/17 Lost to Stetson University 6-0
10/24 Tied Palmetto 0-0
11/1 Beat Arcadia 19-7
11/14 Beat Brooksville 28-0
11/21 Lost to Plant City 3-2
11/27 Lost to Bartow 0-441925 (7-0-1) Lakeland and Duval claimed state title (State Athletic Board ruled St. Pete ineligible for state title due to ineligible players)
10/2 Beat St. Leo 51-0
10/9 Beat Clearwater 16-0
10/16 Beat Palmetto 19-0
10/23 Beat Gainesville 27-12
10/30 Tied Arcadia 6-6
11/11 Beat Plant City 34-0
11/21 Beat Ft. Meade 7-0
11/26 Beat Summerlin (Bartow) 13-01926 (8-1)
Beat St. Leo 68-0
Beat Ft. Meade 39-3
Beat Plant City 28-0
Beat Gainesville 20-0
Beat Arcadia 89-0
Beat Ft. Myers 13-6
Lost to Tampa 0-7
Beat Clearwater 69-0
Beat Kissimmee 29-0
St. Pete - Game cancelled by request of both team's players- Hwy17 and nolebull813
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35 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
You sent me most of Lakeland results a while ago. I have been chopping them down to almost have them all. This is all I’m missing
1908
1909
1910
1911
1912
1920
1921
1922
1924
1925
1926
I'll should have most of that. Will check later tonight. I have also collected newspaper articles with game recaps for almost all games going back to the first game in 1907. Pretty interesting stuff.
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1935 - Lakeland goes 8-0-1 and beats an All-Star team from Miami to be named State Champion. The tie was a scoreless game against Orlando.
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On 6/21/2019 at 2:14 PM, DarterBlue2 said:
That was just a trolling post. Lakeland's coaching is fine. As long as they have talent, the contend for deep runs.
Yep. I just wanted to see how the remark would be justified......if it was really believed.
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3 hours ago, NewEraFball said:
I’ve heard for years coaching ability at Lakeland is average
Really?
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4 hours ago, NewEraFball said:
This is the dumbest post i've ever read. Please just stop. Lakeland recruits everybody. That's why when they won the state championship, you heard about it for about two days, then nobody in the county said anything else about it, because nobody respected them because they had 13-14 starters that were recruited there from other schools in the area.
Please list those 13-14 starters that were recruited.
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1 minute ago, Perspective said:
Yeah, now it'll only be 40-45% empty.
If Armwood makes it.....back up to 80%.
Lakeland @ Armwood
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Game is officially sold out. Wonder how many of Armwoods tickets Lakeland people bought from the online sales.