Miamidade92
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Ok, after reading and watching the clip again, I can see why. Truly remarkable.
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Good ending, but that was just a kickoff return for a touchdown.
I think the ending for the 98 Soul Bowl between Northwestern and Jackson or the ending of the State Championship game between Northwestern and Seminole were far more exciting.
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5 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
Yeah, I remember Chamberlin and Wharton having good teams, as well as Jefferson and Hillsborough. Plant's dominance began with their first good QB in a long time who was a piece of work in his own way.
Robert Marve?
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It appears State power Columbus will be looking for a new coach. Great program and tradition. If the right person takes over, they can take that program to the next level.
https://www.bryantbulldogs.com/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20181220m9835q
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7 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
Based on its administration (former APK) and location, I think Windermere will be fine in two to four years. Not saying they will begin making deep playoff runs at that point but should start accumulating winning seasons.
I agree 100% with this. Depends on the location and administration's commitment to football. When Miami Booker T Washington reopened in 1999 it was an instant football power because the majority of their students come from the Overtown area of Miami. It reopened to help relieve the overcrowded Miami High. As soon as Booker T reopened, all the athletes went there and Miami High football has never been the same.
So I agree that location is everything for a starting program.
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On 12/9/2018 at 11:13 AM, OldSchoolLion said:
In case there is any question, I don't pimp any schools or parts of the state, and am neutral in the public vs private debate. None of my comments should be taken as having an undercurrent of favoritism. I call things as I see them. I have no ties to Columbus or Mandarin. Thought it was a great game and the better team won last night. That's not the issue, though.
"But the weakest of all arguments is "They have no playoff history" or even better... "Oh, but they paid their dues..." Like it is a right of passage or something. WTF?" I think you missed my point. I mentioned Columbus' history not to imply that in some way they deserved to win. I did so to paint a picture of how folks would have likely reacted if a private school had beaten a public school under the exact same circumstances. I can hear the moaning now about how _____missed out on a state title because some upstart private school beat them.
When schools like Oxbridge and University "popped up," there were a lot of tough questions asked...and rightfully so. For years private schools have been intensely scrutinized. Public schools, including Mandarin, may need to learn how it feels now. Not fun, huh? Well, it probably wasn't for them either.
Please give me the name of another public school in the upper classes that has done anything like what Mandardin did this year in terms of rising to prominence in such short order and coming off a 2-8 season to win a title. Questioning it is not necessarily a matter of nitpicking or being butt hurt. Anyone who knows FL hs football over the past 50 years knows those circumstances are extremely unusual. Does it mean Mandarin did anything wrong? No. Would even the most neutral person ask "How did that happen?" I think that's reasonable, so Mandarin folks should not be butt hurt that someone is bringing this situation to light. This thread is not just about Mandarin. There are much broader implications of the discussion.
"Almost every title winning team ever can be narrowed down to a handful of players making the difference and I bet the lion's share of those arrived at their schools due to similar situations." You may well be right, sir. Please give us names of players and details of their transfers to prove that point. Until I see facts, I don't make such assumptions out of fairness to those programs. I happen to know that Cardinal Gibbons had only 2 transfers that started this year because I took the time to research. Surprising, huh?
"Maybe all this is just that Mandarin pissed in the Wheaties of all the peeps downstate who believe that it is some divine intervention that large school titles are theirs and theirs alone. Welp, that changed last night. Time to get over it."
That is not the case with me, sir. I have actually done entire threads on North FL football, including the dominance of North FL over other parts of the state back in the 1970's and 1980's. Not everyone who raises issues has a hidden agenda.
The next time somebody raises questions about a program, I'll be watching for you, Shredstar, to come to their defense and tell the questioner to knock it off and stop the sour grapes. If what happened at Mandarin this year is not worthy of objective, honest scrutiny, I cannot think of much that is.
Miami High almost did it last year. Sedrick Irvin took over the program for one year They went from doormats to one win from the state championship game last year losing to Atlantic in the semis. They lost their coach and they dropped back down to 4 wins this year. Irvin jumped to Southridge and is at it again. Unfortunately this will become more common and I think high school recruiting is never going away. It has always been around, but in the shadows, now it's out in the open. I wouldn't be surprised if high schools start to get in trouble for recruiting players with cash. There was one five star player here in Miami that was supposedly "bought" and transferred to a rival school after spending his first three years at one school. It was so out in the open that it was even discussed on local sports talk radio.
Another instance, Hialeah High this year went 9-1 and made it to the playoffs. They are a perennial 4-5 win team. Coincidence? They were led by some promising freshmen. I'd be shocked if those freshmen stayed at that school another year or two when you have Central, Northwestern, Jackson, Booker T, and Carol City within 15 miles.
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In 95 Northwestern started out 0-3. They lost to Miami High, Southridge, and Carol City. They never lost after that. NW was led by Nate Webster that year on defense.
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I'll look forward to watching Allison. He's a former four star recruit, and seeing Miami's QB situation, we could have used him. I hope he does well at WVU.
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Devonte Freeman didn't take over full time at Central until Brandon Gainer left. Gainer signed with Kentucky, but I don't think he finished there.
Killian was loaded in the early 2000s but they didn't win the state championship until the year after Bobby Washington left.
One of the best backfields I have ever seen was the 1993 Southridge team. They had three college All-Americans in their backfield, The Davis brothers and Sedrick Irvin.
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On 10/6/2018 at 12:23 PM, OldSchoolLion said:
So far this season, we have seen 7 matchups of the better teams from Broward vs the better teams from Miami-Dade. Bolded below are the winners of those games. BTW and Chaminade face off shortly in what will be an eighth matchup. Imagine if we have had the 7 matchups further below scheduled this year. That would be a total of 15 Broward vs Dade games. Who would come out on top? In other words, who would win more of the 15 games, Broward or Dade?
Central vs St Thomas Aquinas
Northwestern vs Miramar
Carol City vs AHP
Northwestern vs AHP
Booker T Washington vs Dillard
Jackson vs Hallandale
Jackson vs Cardinal Gibbons
Booker T Washington vs Chaminade-Madonna
Hypothetical matchups:
Carol City vs St Thomas Aquinas
Central vs Deerfield Beach
South Dade vs Deerfield Beach
Columbus vs University School
Columbus vs Cardinal Gibbons
Southridge vs Western
Palmetto vs McArthur
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I believe Daunte played for Ocala Vanguard
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Columbia 33-6
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Too bad this won't count for the official record. IMG will still offcially be on a 37 game winning streak.
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Columbia 33-6
IMG in big trouble
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27-6 Columbia
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21-0 Columbia
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I know this topic will be taboo, but it's starting to come out. High schools buying athletes. Tyrique Stevenson, a 4-5 star athlete has been with South dade since his freshman year. he just transferred to Southridge for his senior year. Southridge was just taken over by Sedrick Irvin, who took Miami High from 2-7 to the state semifinal game in ONE season. Now he goes to Southridge and is trying to recruit players to that school as well. I've heard form people that he lured Stevenson away form South Dade from anywhere between $5,000-$8500. Last week in South Florida radio it came out on the Joe Rose show.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/audio/joe-rose-show/ Listen to 4/19 hour 2, minute 36.
I'm sure this happens all over the state, my question is, CAN something be done about this? Or with the FHSAA rule change, is this legal?
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On 4/3/2018 at 2:46 PM, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Where was he at last year?
He was at South Dade since he was a freshman. Sedrick Irvin is buying all the top talent in the area....LOL
He turned Miami High around in ONE season and now he's at Southridge with much more talent around him. Look out for them this year.
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Jesus Machado is a two year standout with several D1 offers already and he's only a sophomore. He's been at Champagnat the last two years but I recently saw somewhere that listed him at Miami Central. Does anyone know if he's transferred?
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On 2/2/2018 at 3:05 AM, OldSchoolLion said:
My impression is that Southridge, Coral Gables, and South Dade all can vary quite a bit from season to season. Southridge was a consistent power back in the 80's and 90's, but they never got their mojo back. I don't want to say their title last year was a fluke, but it still does not move them up to consistent contender for me. Same thing for South Dade with their title a few years back.
The only team from down there I consider a consistent power is Columbus. This decade is probably the best I've seen in terms of making deep playoff runs. They have momentum to keep it going.
Miami High last season was a total shocker to me. I don't know the story, so have no idea if it was a fluke or not.
Miami this season...don't know where that came from. I cannot remember the last time they went anywhere in the playoffs.
Miami High did great last year because of the recruiting Sedrick Irvin did for the school. They were stacked. He left Miami High to go back home to Southridge. He'll have Southridge bringing in players and they'll be competing for state again this season.
South Dade lost their freshman quarterback to Booker T when the season ended, but they always have athletes all over the field. But, I agree, they're unpredictable.
Columbus has been by far the most consistent program. You can always count on them reaching at least the second round of the playoffs and sometimes farther. They'll eventually breakthrough and get a state title.
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4 hours ago, SportsNut25 said:
Very surprising
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On 12/19/2017 at 9:59 AM, BrowardHandicapper said:
Should be a plus for FAMU with Rolle's strong ties to Dade football....On another note, safe to say Southridge is a sinking ship for now?
I've heard from several people down in Dade County that Sedrick Irvin is going to leave Miami High and take the Southridge job. I don't know if anyone else has heard this or if it's even true. Just a rumor I heard.
It wouldn't surprise me since Irvin went to Southridge from 9th-11th grade. He only went to Miami High his senior year.
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I don't know how Everglades Prep managed to get this game scheduled. They are one of the worst teams in Miami-Dade. The final score will be ugly.
The only thing Everglades prep has going for them is their freshman running back. He had over 800 yards last year starting as an eighth grader on varsity. I'd be surprised if he stays there for all his high school years. He'll probably end up transferring out.
Could there be a chink in the armor at Miami Central?
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That Central team that lost to Grayson had Joseph Yearby and Dalvin Cook in the backfield, and they couldn't do anything against them. They couldn't run the ball against them and Central didn't have a passing game. That year Central went on to run the table and win a state title, but against Grayson they looked like a JV team.
Any given year Georgia's top teams can compete and beat the top teams in Florida, but I agree that it's always one sided in that most of those matchups are in Georgia. They rarely travel.