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5 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
So were only 3 games away feom the playoffs & no sort of rankings slash pointa for the teams have been released which i thought i would be after week 6....whats going on .....
Granted it may not be finalized points or rankings but atleast it can give teams a idea of where they are...and possible playoff opponents.
I think they come out this Tuesday.
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13 hours ago, Pipe Dreams said:
DP is a different football team since being down 21-0 at the half against Apopka, losing 21-13 and having two potential TD's called back.
They manhandled Wekiva and it could have been much worse. Completely different team out there.
Will they crack Columbia's top 80? Word on Troll Street is no
DP is okay. But I would not get too excited about the Wekiva win or the comeback against Apopka. Wekiva's defense is a shell of what it was the past three years. Their offense is about the same.
Regarding Apopka, the defensive front is as tough as usual, the offense lacks big time play makers, at least not running the ball.
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5 hours ago, peezy28 said:
Who said Edgewater was a greay Florida team?
EC, this year's Edgewater team is solid. The game was a bit closer than the scores. Marietta had a superior offensive line which gave their DI QB way too much time to throw. Marietta made three critical stops on downs deep in their own territory including stopping a five minute Edgewater drive to open the second half. Marietta was, overall, the better team (not sure about talent, but overall better).
I look for Edgewater to get a return match with Lakeland in the semis. Last year it was close for a half then the wheels fell off Edgewater's wagon. We will see what this year brings.
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48 minutes ago, muckboy561 said:
Arizona, right? Not sure what he was supposed to do. He had his second and third stringers in.
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18 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Since 2000, only 8 teams(those listed below) with 4 or more regular season losses have made it to a state semi or beyond. Only one of those teams had more than 5 regular season losses. Which team?
Apopka
Bartram Trail
Boone
Deerfield Beach
Dillard
Miami Jackson
Seabreeze
Tate
Maybe the 2001 Deerfield Beach Bucs.
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14 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
All except one of the following teams has been waiting 20+ years to get back to a state title game. Who is that one team?
Chamberlain
Columbia
Jacksonville Lee
Jesuit
Lake Wales
Palmetto
Sandalwood
Santa Fe
Sarasota Riverview
Vanguard
The answer is Chamberlin which made the title game (they lost) in the very early part of this century.
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4 minutes ago, badbird said:
You saw the best Apopka has played all year. This team is not a state contender. If they make it to the state title game Jeff Rolson did the most amazing job ever. They do not have the skill kids on offense to compete for a state title. I hope they prove me wrong
That just about sums it up. They would need new wrinkles and amazing luck or some new guy to emerge to have any shot at making it to the third round let alone Daytona.
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54 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:
(c) If three or more schools are tied for first place in the final district standings and the tie cannot be broken based on the results of regular season competition, then a district tiebreaker shall be based on the RPI Ranking throughout the entire regular season to include week 11 games.
So, given(c) could there be a situation in which, three or more teams would still be deadlocked and if yes, would some kind of shoot out still occur?
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1 hour ago, badbird said:
That was my point. Jones is way more talented. The single wing gives Apopka a chance vs a team that hasn't seen it much. DP has seen it and knows how to adjust. I actually think Jones has a good staff. Elijah does a really good job. However they don't see the single wing often.
Now that I think about it didn't Elijah beat Apopka when he was at Oak Ridge?
He did. Nyquan Murray was at Oak Ridge. Apopka led most of the game and Oak Ridge stormed back to win late in the 4th quarter. Murray had a couple spectacular plays in that game. Oak Ridge did a decent job in that game against the single wing. And Apopka was more talented that year than this year.
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Just now, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
I thought they played Bolles in regional finals one year
I did not check, so you may be correct. But historically, they have not made deep runs. Last year they were unlucky losing by less than a touchdown in the second round to the eventual state champion Cardinal Gibbons.
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1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Bonus question
I'm guessing Tampa Bay Tech or Lakewood
The bonus question's answer could also be Jones.
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2 minutes ago, badbird said:
I could see them losing one. I agree they lose to Jones and Wekiva is a toss up. I wouldn’t be shocked if Apopka beat Jones because of the single wing and Jones not use to seeing it
If Apopka beats Jones, it would be due solely to coaching issues with Jones's staff. Without Jecoryan, who now lives in Georgia, Apopka has decent but not exceptional backs and they have had their fair share of injuries. The point being that while they will have more guys at the point of attack, at least some of the time, it does not mean they get a lot of first downs.
In the DP game, Apopka was having its way till just before half time. Come the second half DP made adjustments, and Apopka's offensive production in the second half was very limited.
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41 minutes ago, fishspinners said:
Palmetto at #39 is comical.
I agree. They are better than that.
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On 9/28/2019 at 9:17 PM, badbird said:
I expect Apopka to win all 3 of those games. Apopka is very good on defense and they will find enough offense to win if they don't turn it over a bunch.
Apopka may win all three games, but my money is they lose at least one of the three. You are both right and wrong about Apopka's defense. The defensive front is very strong. The secondary has some good athletes, but it is susceptible to both the deep ball and to screens which can get five six yards per play. So, if I am right and Apopka loses one of these games, they probably go 7-2 or 6-3, as they will likely lose to Jones this week, while the Wekiva game is a toss up.
7-2 or 6-3, including at least one district loss will probably not be enough to win the district (especially if the loss is to WO), and may not be enough to get a wild card spot.
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1 hour ago, HornetFan said:
Some games are total mismatches that should never be scheduled. Leesburg, a 5A team from Lake County with a 2-3 record against local high school competition is traveling this week to play at Gonzaga (Wasington DC), the same team that beat Plant this past weekend. Gonzaga is ranked #38 in the country by MaxPreps. Why are Florida coaches offering up their teams as sacrificial lambs for national powers to feast upon?
Perhaps the deal was too good to turn down? You are right, though, Leesburg is getting manhandled by its own district competition (Jones and Bishop Moore), no need to take a step up in competition and get running clocked in the first quarter.
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1 hour ago, Cat_Scratch said:
A few of those lost to OOS power houses. Should or should not judge those that took the challenge to harsh. Others may have lost 1 or 2 they could have won so I understand the doubt in ranking them in the top 50.
The teams I listed, with an exception or two, belong in the top 50. However, I believe that at this stage, Columbia fan has them ranked too high. Time will be the ultimate test as we see how the season and playoffs play out.
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There are six teams in this district: Apopka, Evans, Lake Brantley, Lake Mary, Ocoee and West Orange. Currently, Apopka and West Orange are 2-0, Lake Mary and Evans are 1-1, and Ocoee and Lake Brantley are 0-2.
Having already beaten Lake Mary and Evans, West Orange is in the best position to win the district. A victory over Apopka in their contest should wrap it up unless either Ocoee or Lake Brantly upsets them. Of the two, Ocoee probably has the best chance due to the long standing rivalry between the two teams. Apopka is in the next best position with games remaining against: West Orange, Lake Mary and Evans. While I favor Apopka against all three, any of the three has a decent chance of pulling the upset.
Lake Mary does because they have a quality quarterback and Apopka struggles most against the pass. West Orange, athletically matches up evenly against Apopka and this should be a down to the wire game. Evans is the dark horse. For the first time since Chip Gierke's brief stint there, they seem to be back to life. Of the three remaining district games Evans is the only team that has a chance to straight out out athlete Apopka.
As things stand in the district, a playoff spot is Apopka's to lose. However, there is a real possibility that that could occur.
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3 minutes ago, badbird said:
He probably does as a QB and he also has more weapons around him with Hill, Connelly and Leary all a year older now and the OL seems better this year. Mobley also doesn't have to do as much as Harvey had to do last year and he is not keyed on by defenses. However in regards to the question he is their weakness. If he plays well they have a chance to win it all. I'm not saying he sucks but he isn't as good as the QB they had last year. Against Bishop Moore I saw him miss open players and throw a pick 6. I also saw him make some throws that average QB's could not make. He has ability. He needs to be more consistent.
I agree with the bold underscored parts of your comments above.
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50 minutes ago, badbird said:
The Orlando Sentinel has him #41 in the class of 2021 for Central Florida. He was a part time starter at DP last year. He is not near as good right now as the QB Edgewater had last year.
Tommi Hill is #1 one of the electric WR's I was talking about. Christian Leary is #7 on the list.
The list is below. Not sure where you got #1 from.
http://interactive.orlandosentinel.com/recruiting/2021/central-florida-super60/
I agree he is not as good as their QB last year. But he is only a Junior. I believe he has more upside potential. It was interesting to see two former DP QBs dueling it out last night. Not usual to see that in one game.
Regarding Tommi Hill, nice kid with lots of upside potential and comes from a caring family. To some degree he does not fit in with the tempo of the team. Regardless, he should do real well in the college game.
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3 minutes ago, skyway said:
My comments were based on a general feeling after observing Florida vs. OOS teams, especially road games against Georgia teams. I don't actually know anything about either team, other than Marietta is loaded with FBS players, one of whom is a beast TE.
Have you seen Edgewater this year? What aspects of their team do you see as being their weakest links?
Of course he has not seen them. He's basing it on his overall opinion of Orlando area football. I have seen Edgewater three times: Bishop Moore, Jones and Wekiva. They have gotten better with each game.
Last night they had every reason to fall apart being down 14-0 in the first three minutes of the game. The did not panic and scored the last 45 points to win handily.
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3 minutes ago, skyway said:
I'm certainly very worried about Edgewater as far as Lakeland is concerened. It's just that the record of Florida's teams traveling up to Georgia seems quite poor. I'm not sure how much is attributable to the quality of the teams and how much can be blamed on refs, travel etc. Really, really hope Edgewater goes up there and battles Marietta for 4 quarters.
I strongly believe they will. They may lose, but Marietta will know they have been in a game. This is a solid Edgewater team. At least as good as 2002-2004. The HBC is a young guy in his early 30s. What he may lack in experience, he makes up for in exuberance. The kids play hard for him.
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55 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Edgewater gets rolled. If they let a team like a Bishop Moore to hang around then they are not very good. B Moore is really not good.
Marietta is great. Top 5 in GA.
Edgewater is good for their area. Marietta is good in the country. Huge difference. Kinda like when Armwood beats everyone in the area but goes and plays a team in GA that isn’t even as good as Marietta, and they get chopped down.
Edgewater is gonna get a coaching clinic next week
Armwood lost in overtime. Trust me, Edgewater is better than Armwood. I am not saying Edgewater wins next week, but they won't get rolled.
The BM Edgewater game should not be used as a measuring stick for Edgewater. They are a lot better now than they were a month ago.
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5 hours ago, skyway said:
I have this bad feeling Edgewater is going to get running-clocked at Marietta. Really hope I'm wrong!
I would be very surprised if Marietta running clocked Edgewater.
Edgewater is at least 21 points better (probably more) than last year's team that made the semis against Lakeland. Marietta is good, maybe very good, but not as good as their ranking at the beginning of the season. If it were not for the fact that Lakeland stands in the way of Daytona Beach, I would be willing to say Edgewater is a lock to make the title game.
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