Mashburns
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17 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:
Since it worked when I posted for Plant, any idea when Glades Central is going to announce the hiring of their new coach? It has been almost 3.5 months now.
Im hearing very soon they will make the announcement and that it will be Santonio Holmes but they are working through some legal issues in his past to see if the district will clear him but if not then they will go with Rashad I believe his name he coached on the college level and is an alumni of the school.
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11 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
And moving what? 4-5 hours north?
He certainly ain't commuting lol
Top two 2021 prospects both left within a month
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Just founded out Santino Marucci 3 star Wake Forest Commit QB from Benjamin has transferred to Bartram Trail? That's a shocker there with him leaving Benjamin
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On 2/5/2020 at 12:53 PM, gatorman-uf said:
Disappointing that the kid from Newman transferred. If you look at his twitter, he was already getting big name (Power 5) offers before he went to STA, so the school is not going to get him any more offers than he currently is getting. If he thinks that the school is making him a better player, so be it, but like many situations, it is a shame that a team develops a student for several years only for them to abandon them.
Transfers after freshman or sophomore year don't bother me nearly as much as transfers before senior year.The Newman kid coach step down after the season and I believe thats what pushed him out.
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12 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
That situation is actually sad. There is no reason why a Palm Beach county public outside of the Muck could not win a state title.
Right just this year along Palm Beach Central I believe lost players to Aquinas, Atlantic lost one to Aquinas, Wellington lost one to Gibbons, Cardinal Newman lost one to Aquinas, I believe Benjamin lost their QB to a school out of county and I'm sure there are or will be more kids making that trip south.
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Recently probably for the past few years more palm beach county players are leaving Palm Beach and playing in broward and dade both private and public why do you guys feel this is happening? I believe the last big school to win state in palm beach was dwyer in 2013 and with most of the top players playing in different counties south of palm beach I think that streak will continue.
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I see Luke posted about hiring a new General Manager at Edison is that a slang for A.D? or it's a new position created? I need my Dade guys to fill me in on this please.
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2 hours ago, Floridatech said:
2004 lost to Palm Beach Lakes
2005 lost to Palm Beach Gardens at states
2006 lost to South Plantation
2007 lost to Northwestern in the fourth rd
2008 lost to Miramar who was starting a dynasty at the time
2009 lost to Plantation a solid and underrated consistent Broward team
2012 lost to Cypress Bay they went on to set a record with Apopka at states
2013 lost to Miramar who was undefeated at the time and was favored to win states
2015 lost to Flanagan who won states and had a nasty defense
2016 lost to Southridge who won states
2017 lost to Western their becoming a good consistent team lately
2018 lost to Columbus who went to states
2019 lost to Columbus who won states
Soooooo u can't sit here and say that Deerfield is this overrated team that gets highly ranked every year, clearly they're losing to teams that are above average , most of these teams go on to win at states too......
Every year you just mentioned compare both rosters, deerfield has the most talent each and every night they step on the field outside of saint thomas I put Vero and Deerfield in the same conversation every year.
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Having a roster that has players from 3 counties playing against schools that isn't "allowed" to recruit their talent (which some do but not from other counties I assuming), you should only have 1 losing season. I truly believe that STA, Heritage Schools, Trinity, IMG, and etc should all be in the same district IMO.
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On 12/13/2019 at 5:06 PM, HornetFan said:
Not being a teacher or coach, just a fan, i have noticed that coaching changes in high school football are not a rare occurrence. I follow the Orlando area because I live here and my grandsons play football here, one in a private school and the other in a public school. Most of the changes I see happen with schools that are not having great success or where there are extenuating circumstances. One extreme example here in Orlando is West Orange HS where I believe there have been 4 head football coaches this year' but that's extreme. As a booster, I agree that booster organizations should be able to supplement a coach's salary. It is a year round sport and requires a dedicated individual who loves the sport and working with the kids. For many kids, these coaches serve as a role model, many times being the only adult male with an important role in their lives. I think this is just as important as winning football games. These coaches also are a kids best chance for a potential football scholarship and a college education; they connect with college coaches and recruiters. I think most parents and boosters would be more than willing to help with the coaches' compensation, but I believe you would run into obstacles with non-coaching teachers objecting to any such help. With over 30 years as a Florida resident, in several areas of this state, I have yet to see a teachers group that I feel would endorse this without complaining about teachers being underpaid.
Great point didn't think of the push back from teachers, I believe Texas has the same issue with the teachers complaining about the salary of some of the coaches out there.
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5 hours ago, youngandrunning said:
From my understanding of education finances and ethics (i.e. redbook and certain allotments given by the state),
Boosters that are governed, audited, or organized by a school official or within the school's county system cannot and will not give money to coach's because of misuse of funds that are (most often in booster language) allotted for and donated on behalf of the students it should benefit. If the booster has, within their bylaws, that their are to be no members that are part of the "local county" school board employee or "any other county" school board employee- then and only then should it be possible and allowed by the state.
A large piece of this fancy pants language has to do with the FHSAA, and most of it's member schools, is still governed by state legislation and/or the same part of the government that directs state mandated testing and education laws and adjustments. If this booster money (the same booster that is associated with members of the local county school system) were to be allocated towards coaches it would then be considered "for profit" which is pretty much the complete opposite of public education.
Kind of hard to read, kind of hard to digest, maybe someone can simplify what I'm trying to put out there.
Yes please simplify, so are they allowed or no? and if so why not more schools pay these guys and if not why it isn't allowed?
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3 minutes ago, Perspective said:
I don't know for sure, but my guess is that the state (i.e., the FHSAA) doesn't want to see high school football --at least as it relates to public schools -- turn into the "haves" and the "have nots" based on socio-economic factors. If booster clubs are allowed to supplement coaching salaries, the rich will get richer and the poor will stay poor. Just a hunch.
Great point there but also having the private schools playing with different rules, regulations and also a different purse gives them an unfair advantage. Look at some of the private schools facilities, equipment, coaching staff, travel operations and etc. But yes like you stated it will probably turn into that have and have not landscape but the current system is out dated for sure.
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My question is why doesn't the state allow boosters to raise money for coaches or give these guys incentive performance base contracts? I mean to pay those guys one set stipend if Team A goes 2-8 or 15-0, what is the motivation or carrot for these coaches?
But we then complain when the coaches leave for other states that will pay them for the work they do.
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1 hour ago, SportsNut25 said:
They are actually triple digit each year.
Usually ends up somewhere around 115-130, which is roughly 20% of the head coaching positions in the state.
And if the coaches are not working around the calendar then their players will transfer out because "X" coach are working around the clock and now you have a less talented program which means you lose games and now you are fired from your teaching and coaching job and is forced to relocate your family all for like a $8,000 supplement coaching job?
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I'm just now seeing that the last official day for a few lucky/un-lucky coaches is next Friday December 13th right? That means that these coaches are working from January to January because of the early signing day in December now these coaches are engaged in their programs for 12 months no break and majority of these guys are Teachers first right? because that is what pay their bills I will assume because I don't think the state/county stipends pay the bills in majority of these programs. I know the demands on these coaches is UN-realistic because they do have to work on top of coach "year-round" but that explains the job openings are double digit each year because of the stress that has to put on coaches and their families. Now seeing these games pushed into Mid-December then college recruiting #1, College recruiting #2 (Feb), off season training, 7 on 7's, spring football, summer tours/training, and then fall camp. That is a lot to do for anyone but to have a regular 9-5 on top of that i'm sure can be tough.
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11 hours ago, Nulli Secundus said:
Additional classes has made it easier. No county in Florida has the sheer amount of schools with the level of depth that can compete in different classes. Dade (yes I know it’s Miami-Dade but I’m old school) has had a great amount of schools reach title games over the decades but it was not an almost guaranteed appearance like it is today. There was a 14-year period between ‘77 and ‘91 when Dade didn’t win away titles as there were only 4-5 classes and there was more parity. Today, we have twice that number of classes and unless you have enough good teams in multiple classes, by numbers alone, it would be damn near impossible for Dade not to get a team in the title game. If you look at Florida most populous counties, there’s almost a direct correlation between population rank and rank in titles. That’s not always constant as some counties punch higher and others, not so much.
Population Titles
- Miami-Dade 38.5
- Broward 27
- Palm Beach 30
- Hillsborough 11
- Orange 6.5
- Pinellas 0
- Duval 31
- Lee 0
- Polk 17
- Brevard 14
21. Escambia 12
22. Leon 21Leon County has won more titles than 62 of Florida’s 67 counties despite being the 22nd largest Florida county. Escambia makes Hillsborough, Orange, Lee & Pinellas counties look bad in terms of raw numbers and they have a chance to add another title this year. Orange also has 3 chances to increase their title counts.
This was broken down perfect for me to understand thanks for the information. The Miami Schools are definitely represented very well each year at the championship games and also they travel very well which will make sense for the state to try to get more Miami schools in there.
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I don't go back that far when dealing with historical streaks in High School football but I know plenty of you guys are when I read some of you guys post about the history of the schools and counties. It seems year in and year out the Miami Schools dominate the other counties as a whole, I know every blue moon a school from a different county may upset a School from Miami but for the most part the Schools in Miami pretty much run the state when it comes to championships. My question is has it always been that way? or this just currently whats going on and it changes over time to a different county?
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16 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
Okay this game has gotten crazy with the back and forth from the fans; the extra police force that they say is gonna be needed, and now the upping on the price ..... you may not even be able to turn on panther lane at 7:00pm because of the line.
but to raise the prices two days before the game tho ?? Yes 10 bucks isn’t a lot but some families been struggling trying to pay the 8 for everybody lol.
all I can say about Friday’s game is Man oh Man here we go lol.
Especially if you have children between tickets, food and parking you spending like a $100.
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17 minutes ago, Jesse said:
They will win by 35. Atlantic is not good, Madison county would smash them. Heck Clearwater international academy smash them. St Thomas 52- 7 Atlantic.
52-7? You are accurate with the Clearwater loss but it wasn't a runaway score again STA could and some say should win this game but I'm telling you this is one team that STA do not want to face in this spot.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
Are you close to the Atlantic program? Do you know why the game with John Curtis,LA fell through? It was on both teams official schedules before the season then the game was off. Atlantic played Columbia, and JC famously chose Lake Placid.
Do you have any insight?
Don't know what happen with that game that week usually cancellation like that has something to do with travel but I'm not sure.
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This one Palm Beach County Team STA does not want to face here in round 3. Typically STA will face Dwyer in this spot and probably win by 28 or more. But what Coach Jackson built down at Atlantic is a anytime ..anywhere..anybody culture that his players believe in, this will not look or feel like a Dwyer and STA match-up those Delray kids honestly believe they can beat STA and they do not fear the name on the jersey. If you watch any on Atlantic previous games versus out of county opponents their players/coaches constantly repeat the Palm Beach County area code and that is something that is not done coincidentally Coach Jackson and the Atlantic program feels as though they are the true representative of Palm Beach County. Saint Thomas by all means has the better players and can still win this game but my point is, this can be one team that can go down there from this area with no fear and face that program as though they are not what many perceive them to be so don't be surprise if Atlantic win this ball game Friday night.
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I hear he is playing tonight
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14 hours ago, 561_Fan said:
I hope so. This is a weird situation.
Im worried now if they lose the game how will the rest of this kid school year look?
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Glades Central
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Agree, with what Florida paying these coaches and the expectations of a place like Glades Central that's a very tough job. I believe that coach is from the area but he came from some where up north moving his family or what not to be let go within two years? What experience coach will take that job with the risk and low pay? I'm not singling out Glades Central but all public schools in the state we have a serious problem....two things are happening guys are coaching to build resumes to leave the state and the other guys getting fired within 2 years for various reasons and these administration teams are conducting nationwide searches as though these jobs are salary jobs instead of stipends....How can you conduct nationwide searches for stipend position what guarantees the administration can give these guys for the move they are making?