Captain Morgan
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If IMG isn't first this poll just isn't right. As much as I dislike them and what they represent,they have played 3 nationally ranked teams thus far. I'm not knocking Northwesterns schedule or its quality no doubt, but it doesn't touch IMG.
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All time wins don't mean anything. Columbia is one of the oldest schools around, of course they have more all time wins than schools 30 years younger. You can't make a poll then complain about the way people vote.
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Since the numbers guy can't find numbers to defend his argument he resorts to name calling. It's ok man, I took a 5 year window because most people look at 5 or 10 year cycles. When people say let's look at the last 7 years is when they have an agenda. But for your sake let's look back at the glory years for DP, these quality wins you like to point out.
2015 Manatee 9-3 2nd round loser
Lost to 6 loss Lincoln
2014 Plant 10-2 2nd round loser
Lost to 6-4 non playoff team Lowndes
2013 None
2012 Apopka Quality win vs State champ
East Lake 11-2 3rd round loser who got boat raced by 30 to 1st round loser Largo
Plant 10-2 2nd round loser won lost by 30 to John Curtis
2011 Apoka??? This a win vs an elite team??? Smh
Apopka 6-5 1st round loser
2010 Sanford Seminole 11-3 Elite team by your standards, with losses to the following
Oviedo: a 3 loss 2nd round playoff loser
Deland: a 3 loss 2nd round playoff loser
Dr Phillips a state runner up quality loss
2009 Olympia 8-3 on the field 6-5 official record 1st round loser
2008 Sanford Seminole 13-2 State Champion Quality win
2007 None
2006 None
So out of 108 wins in the last ten years I got you down for 2 victories over truly elite teams. You have some wins vs name teams like Apoka, Plant and Manatee but none when they were vying for titles. You have beaten Seminole (2008) and Apopka (2012) that's it. Sorry to have to put it in black and white for you but facts are facts brother. Feel free to point out any errors you come across.
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Ok help me out what title has DP played for in the last 5 years? I'll wait for your response. Just because you always lose close games to elite teams only reiterates my point that you are not elite. If you feel like celebrating losses is a good thing that may explain the mentality of DP. You are a numbers guy, tell me the number of times DP has BEATEN a team that has played for or won a title since 2011. Remember I already gave you credit for 2012 Apopka.
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I guess we disagree on what is an elite team. Elite teams win or play for rings in my opinion. Dr Phillips hasn't done that in the last 5 years. Just my opinion.
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Newberry looked good last night. They remind me of what Union used to be a few years ago. They are pretty basic wing t, don't beat yourself and more times than not they will have better people than their opponents. They are huge up front on the offensive line and just lean on you. The coach is doing a good job using the talent he has and utilizing the kids in positions to make them successful. Should be fun to watch moving forward.
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Just checking on you brother. At 1-3 I figured you may be ready to throw yourself off a bridge.
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Good assessment Jungle. They are finally playing to their strengths and utilizing their talent.
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I got Newberry by 10-14. They will make less mistakes and probably have the better team.
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It's a computer ranking, there is little to no data to enter yet. STA lost to BTW and they were upset so they look worse. Should all be looking right after 4-5 weeks.
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Tell you what MS, quote me on anything where I was flaming Madison. I have been very complimentary of the team, program, coaches, everything. Have no problem with you guys whatsoever. CatScratch posed a question about Madison being 1A. I addressed the question explaining how they have arrived in 1A. You agreed finally what I said was correct. Your first comment was to address the Trenton mud slinging from last year. And you reiterated the "all this coming from a Trenton fan" over and over. So I simply brought up a absolute fact about you guys, not a rumor or story I heard. If facts are a bad thing then I am a bad guy because that's what I deal in. Let me agian reiterate, Madison is the best team in 1A, if they don't win the title it is a big upset. They also have a LEGAL built in advantage with the Charter school deal. Look Pahokee does the same thing except they send kids who are ineligible to their Charter school then BAM they somehow get eligible and can play. Everyone wants to win, I don't fault Madison or Pahokee, I fault the FHSAA for allowing everything to spiral into where we are today. If they would have policed the private schools 20 years ago and stopped the recruiting it would have never got to this point. But here we are. I'm done with it, good luck to you guys moving forward and hope we can see you guys in the playoffs.
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I asked one simple question, I have no idea why you feel the need to defend anything. I have stated over and over that Madison isn't doing anything wrong. I only said that many people feel that Madison has a advantage with the whole Charter school deal. Now as for Trenton they were investigated by the FHSAA and nothing came of it. If you really wanted to talk about something you could mention Madisons'QB playing most of last year while being enrolled at Hamilton Co. Yeah, folks know about that and how the punishment was just sit him out against Hamilton and lets fix the paperwork moving forward. When really they should have forfeited every game he played in. It is what it is ain't no big deal either way!
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Ft White was over, Madison was good, no problem with there numbers as far as that goes.
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You just refuse to answer the question don't you. How about this so you don't feel singled out. There are alot of charter schools all over the state of Florida. But for just this specific topic we are talking about the one in Madison Co. So here's the question, just looking for a yes or no answer. If you added the number of kids that attend the Charter school to the number of kids to Madison high school is the number above 600??? I will wait for the answer.
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If you get zero kids that play from the Charter school the fact still remains that they are available to you. I don't know if a single kid plays or not from the Charter but I do know if they all went to Madison Co High School where they are zoned that Madison would be 3-4A. I think we can agree on that.
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I got Columbia in this one. How'd you like me going out on a limb Columbiafan. ðŸ‘
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Coaching goes a long way folks. Turns good athletes into great ones and great ones into Elite athletes.
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What did I say that wasn't true MS? I didn't say Madison manipulated their count the way Union does or the way Ft Whites' numbers miraculously shrunk below 600 when questioned. I just said that many people say that Madisons' numbers are well above 600 given the kids they get to choose from. You can't say well the 100 kids that go to the Charter school aren't athletes won't help us so we shouldn't count them. That's essentially what you are saying and the FHSAA is allowing. I'm not crying and don't care either way but please correct me if anything I have said is false. I have picked Madison to win it all before a pad was even put on this year so I know what the deal is. Most of it is sour grapes because even without those kids people can't compete with Madison but the fact they get a perceived advantage rubs folks the wrong way.
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Cat, I believe the rub is how they have suddenly gotten to a number to be in 1A. No doubt they have lost enrollment numbers but they are still working with an additional 125-150 students from the small charter school in Madison. Now they will say only a few of those kids play but they still get to choose from that extra 25% of kids. Makes a big difference at the smaller level. All it takes is 2-3 studs and you can go from pretty good to elite at 1A.
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I appreciate your passion Columbia. You go over the top quite a bit but I would rather see someone talk up a team instead of constantly tearing teams down.
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Well tell me Columbia will win state let's see if you are ever a genius! Meanwhile I'll state the obvious and be right.
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Yes I am aware they played N Marion last night. Anyone who was aware of the rosters of those two programs probably had Vanguard winning comfortable. I thought 17-20, now 40-6 did open my eyes a bit I'll admit. Columbia, I like being right and unfortunately it is usually the same teams over and over. Pencil in Trinity Christian, Miami Central, BTW, St Thomas right now. See how easy that is. Probably not creative, but probably correct.
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Not knocking MCC but Union Co isn't near the team they have been the last 5 years or so. Just a heads up when gauging MCC.