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    Hwy17 reacted to Longtime Observer in will they pay the coaches???   
    With remote working certain to remain more of a thing than at any point in history, more appealing areas figure to be increasingly out of reach for the middle class. Wealthy people can often pick up and live/work wherever they please. This will sustain a high cost of living without bringing better wages to the middle class.
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    Hwy17 reacted to nolebull813 in Hillsborough County public’s vs Everybody   
    October 18th which I think is week 9
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?   
    First off, comparing high school athletics to college is an apple to an orange. Colleges are supposed to recruit as they offer scholarships for coming to play for them.  
    Secondly, the purpose of school choice was started for academic purposes, so parents can find the best option for their children.  I personally support the concept, but what we see happening with athletics wasn't what school choice was intended for. 
    As I stated earlier, I have no problem with a transfer when there is indeed a legitimate move. But what I have observed is certain schools poaching players from neighboring schools through one tactic or another. 
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?   
    Point is you can see we had parity before the current law.  Rural schools aren't scared to play schools from metro areas when there was a level playing field.  
    There's this myth that South Florida has always been the dominant area of the state when it comes to football.  That's not exactly true. STA use to get to the championship but typically they'd lose. AHP use to never get past the first round, neither could Cardinal Gibbons.  And other than 2004, I can't remember when Chaminade was all that.  In fact the rise of these programs has been at the expense of other schools down there which are really struggling .
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    Hwy17 reacted to Floridaatlantic1 in Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?   
    I am sure some kids choose to play for the powers. However, it seems that today, many coaches and players recruit the players from other schools and never get punished for it. You have coaches liking players on social media and not a darn thing happens to them. CHEATERS. Lakeland can play with anybody when they get transfers but when they were limited after probation,  they were just another average team. Need an open division with about 36 teams and that would force the powers to beat each other up. Pick on someone their own size. 
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from Ray Icaza in Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?   
    First off, comparing high school athletics to college is an apple to an orange. Colleges are supposed to recruit as they offer scholarships for coming to play for them.  
    Secondly, the purpose of school choice was started for academic purposes, so parents can find the best option for their children.  I personally support the concept, but what we see happening with athletics wasn't what school choice was intended for. 
    As I stated earlier, I have no problem with a transfer when there is indeed a legitimate move. But what I have observed is certain schools poaching players from neighboring schools through one tactic or another. 
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    Hwy17 reacted to Perspective in Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?   
    You are correct.  But here's the point that I think is being made.    'Back then' the teams in the metro areas were, in theory, constrained by district boundaries.   A kid could only go to Central if they lived in the Central district (again, in theory).   So, Central's talent pool was limited to the kids who lived in the Central district.   Just like Pahokee's talent pool was limited to the kids who lived in Pahokee's district.   Now, with school choice, and as a practical matter, Pahokee's talent pool (and the talent pool of all the other rural schools) is essentially still limited to the kids who live in that relatively-sparse geographic area.  Contrast that with Central, who now has the ability to legally pull in any kid from Dade County.  Yes, they are competing against other schools, like Northwestern, for that top talent, but recent history seems to suggest that only a small handful of teams are going to end up with the vast majority of the top talent. 
    To oversimplify, if one rural high school football team has a thousand kids to pick from (including gamers, trombone players, theater buffs, etc.) and a metro high school football team has a hundred thousand kids to pick from (because district lines really don't matter any more), which team is more likely to end up with a group of thirty talented football players?  Now, it wouldn't surprise me at all if a rural team, like Pahokee, could beat the bottom-feeder teams in the metro area, because all the talented kids from those metro teams ended up at the super-power de jure.  But when it comes time for playoffs, the rural team likely won't stand a chance against the metro power. 
    And, yes, there will be exceptions along the way, but for the most part, the numbers won't lie. 
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    Hwy17 reacted to SportsFan in Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?   
    If we look back at the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s 
     
    Yeah there were some teams cheating and some even got caught but it was nothing compared to what's happened since a certain governor now senator signed into law and a one party majority in the state legislature and governor's office has since defended at every turn when they passed school choice into law 
     
    There is no turning back to what we had pre 2010 in terms of competition in this state and it's gonna be proven when we see any rural team make the finals and face a metro school. They won't just lose at states they will get their teeth kicked down their throats and will be out of the game by halftime. There is no hope or chance of a team like Baker or Columbia or Suwannee EVER winning a state title again if they have to face a metro school like Central or AHP or whomever because there's no way to get around a public school who can pull from a county of 3m people and get the best players they can possibly choose from these counties 
     
    It will never happen in football because the game favors metro cheaters and the state has made it clear they don't give a crap about teams being competitive as long as it creates chaos which is what these people WANT so they can slowly defund public schools to save the state money 
     
    The sooner people realize this and start pushing back against politicians sticking their nose where it doesn't belong in our sports programs the better 
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    Hwy17 reacted to Longtime Observer in New Association/Conference   
    Their starting QB, Ryan Browne, was the QB for Sarasota Riverview the previous season. Top WR #3 (Hayes) was a top player for Riverview in 2020 as well. That's all that comes to mind without looking. 
    You have to go back to 2018 to find a Venice team whose QB didn't transfer from another school.
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    Hwy17 reacted to Perspective in final classifications?   
    I may have an unpopular opinion on this subject, but I really don't have a problem with more than 50% of the teams making the playoffs.   Half of those teams will likely lose their first round game, many by large margins (although the teams on the winning side of the blowouts, if smart, will rest starters and give quality playing time to kids that have paid their dues all season and/or kids who will be returning next season).  But if some relatively weak teams get to play a single playoff game, so what?  The kids get to play one more high school football game than they otherwise would have.   I don't have a problem with that.  More gate money to share (assuming it doesn't all go the FHSAA, which I don't believe is the case for early-round games).  Boosters get to sell more hot dogs at the concession stand.  The bands and cheerleaders get one more Friday night under the lights.  And thirty to forty years from now, when the kids from the losing team are overweight and out-of-shape, they can go on a high school football message board and brag about the time they played in a high school playoff game.   Again, I'm OK with that. 
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    Hwy17 reacted to Go Bo Go in New Association/Conference   
    A meeting was held last night with multiple high profile coaches/ADs/administrators/superintendents in North Florida to discuss the creation of a new association/conference. Some of these same people will be heading out to the panhandle next week to meet with coaches/ADs/administrators/superintendents. 
     
    More to come. 
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from h8r in final classifications?   
    Get rid of classification, districts, etc. Allow schools to play up to 12 regular season games, all games count so no more kick off classics. Make your schedule as difficult or easy as you want. Use a power ranking system based on SOS to rank all teams. The top 8 make the playoffs.  Everyone else with 8 or more wins get a bowl game against a similarly ranked opponent. 
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    Hwy17 reacted to nolebull813 in final classifications?   
    We should have 2 state associations with the teams split. 
     
    one is for “FBS” type teams 
    one is for “FCS” type teams
     
    we kinda have that now (FHSAA and SSAA) but not close to where it should be. The SSAA needs about 250 more teams and this would be perfect. 
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    Hwy17 reacted to nolebull813 in final classifications?   
    It is a joke but the reason it’s a joke is because the amount of teams that went independent (which I love) still didn’t persuade these clowns to cut a classification and make sure there are no 2 and 3 team districts. 
     
    Any system that has 2 and 3 team districts is already dead on arrival. The FHSAA needs to dissolve 
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from Cocoafanone in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    So the only other option is to schedule easy teams, produce a winning season but get killed in the playoffs.  
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    Hwy17 reacted to Perspective in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    I agree.  Peacock doesn't.  
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from Longtime Observer in NIL coming to Florida? FHSAA requests public feedback   
    Given all the millions Hardee gets from Mosaic they could be the next super team. 
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from Ray Icaza in NIL coming to Florida? FHSAA requests public feedback   
    Given all the millions Hardee gets from Mosaic they could be the next super team. 
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    Hwy17 got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in NIL coming to Florida? FHSAA requests public feedback   
    Given all the millions Hardee gets from Mosaic they could be the next super team. 
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    Hwy17 reacted to Dr. D in SURVYE SAYS - Coaches are not on board with changes to classifications leaving them unhappy with the FHSAA   
    This alone is probably not enough to get the attention of the head-in-the-sand FHSAA, but it will be interesting to see the final total of schools choosing to go independent.  The one silver lining, as mentioned in Josh's other article, is the remote possibility of contraction of the number of classifications that might be required, if enough teams choose to go independent.
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    Hwy17 reacted to Ray Icaza in SURVYE SAYS - Coaches are not on board with changes to classifications leaving them unhappy with the FHSAA   
    If you need further proof as to the level of unhappiness HS have with the new FHSAA re-districting plan simply check this article out about 8 Orange county schools opting to go independent instead.  That is a pretty significant number. 
    Orange County pulls football teams out of FHSAA districts (orlandosentinel.com)
     
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    Hwy17 reacted to h8r in New FHSAA Classifications   
    there are alot of public schools in the atlantic portion.
     Cocoa Beach 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Interlachen 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Paxon 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Stanton 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Space Coast 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Tradition Prep 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Lake Weir 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Sebastian River 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Bronson 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Bell High 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Coral Springs Charter I think sebastian river won this "state title" last year.
    can clearly see why, 
    I can also see why some independent teams would benefit going to this.
    as a large public high school, the aura of a state championship is way to alluring. 
    but lets be serious,,,, to win the "atlantic" state championship of the ssac is comical.  
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    Hwy17 reacted to gatorman-uf in THE ORIGINAL 2024 COACHES MOVING VAN - Official Thread   
    Southeast - Curt Bradley
    Leading to a vacancy at Braden River
     
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    Hwy17 reacted to CoachGraham in New FHSAA Classifications   
    Quite a few smaller public schools have joined recently.
    Bell joined it last year I know for certain.
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    Hwy17 reacted to gatorman-uf in New FHSAA Classifications   
    Somewhat real question for a second, but I don't feel like researching it. 
    1) I am almost positive the state legislature allows schools to be in multiple associations. 
    2) I thought there used to be a requirement that all public schools had to be members of the FHSAA.
    3) I don't think number #2 is true anymore, but even if it was, but as long as #1 is still true why not create a parallel association, where you are independent in the FHSAA (to satisfy any state requirements), and then create the association you want with the rules you want. 
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