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Posts posted by DarterBlue2

  1. 1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    Who is he?

    Where did he play in high school?

    Where did he play in college?

    Which Pro team drafted him?

    Xavier Rhodes | Norland HS, Miami, FL | MaxPreps

    Does not look like the adult version of him, but I am going to guess: Dwayne Bowe, Miami Norland High School, LSU college and Kansas City Chiefs.

    The only reason for the guess is I know he wore # 80 at both LSU and Kansas City. So, I am guessing the same number at Norland. Funny thing is I was at the Norland/Edgewater game in 2002. One of the coldest nights I have ever attended a football game at in Florida. 

  2. 3 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:

    Do you think Rick Darlington just borrowed the single wing playbook from one of those teams and decided it was good enough 100 years ago, it is good enough for today?

    Rick always subscribed to the theory that two bad things occur when you throw the ball and only one good thing occurred. So, he figured he did not like those odds. Hence, a run oriented system was a must. After employing the veer for a while, he decided on Single Wing, because no one was using it. I think he figured if no one was employing it, then most team would have a devil of a time stopping it. You can't stop a deceptive system that you never see very effectively. Thus, was born his love affair with the single wing ...

  3. 5 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

    They don't have the benefit of football coaches instructing them at practices during the pandemic.

    Bingo. Their coaches are not trying to break the rules. And this is what you are not seeing. If they had coaches that put pressure on them to go out to organized practice, how would they respond? You may give an answer that they would not comply, but do you really know that for sure? And, yes, they are kids. They may have adult bodies and "think" they are adults, but in reality most 16-18 year olds are in that crazy, confusing phase between being kids still and taking on adult responsibilities. To confuse them with being adults as I understand the term, is way off the mark.

    But like I said, I am done. We can agree to disagree like adults, or you can argue with yourself, for I am done on this and the other matter. 

  4. 5 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

    If it comes in the Fall, and that's a big "if" unless you want to politicize the virus, our doctors, scientists, and leaders will be better positioned to deal with it. By isolating our senior population, of which I am one, and practicing social distancing, wearing masks in enclosed areas, and good personal sanitation efforts, our younger population will be able to attend school and participate in school sports. Kids have enjoying their extra two months of Summer vacation this year with hardly skipping a beat. It's the media, politicians, and school teachers sowing fear in the population. If a kid lives in a home that has a senior citizen at risk, maybe that kid skips team sports. You don't penalize the entire student population because of the fears of a few. If we did, we would close all schools every Fall because of the flu, a virus that kills more young people each year than the covid-19 does.

    I think you are doing all the politicizing. I am just trying to stay safe. The arguments you make comparing the flu to this virus are asinine at best. We don't have familiarity with this virus and we also don't have the level of "population immunity" to it. I have not had the flu in over 30-years probably because I am immune to most of its strains. I would never assume that with respect to Covid-19.

    I had some respect for you last football season. Don't let it all go out the window. We have nothing else to say to each other on this matter. I am out. 

  5. 1 minute ago, HornetFan said:

    So, you're saying the end justifies the means. Better to go along with cheating than to risk not winning a starting position. The FHSAA could make every one of those players that participated ineligible for a year. What do you tell kids on opposing teams that didn't have the benefit of possibly two additional months of team practice?

    No, I am not. I am saying what Bad Bird said. Punish the adults, not the kids. I am not going to argue with you on the matter. You have your opinion and I have mine. I don't know if you have ever coached, been a player or had a kid on a competitive team. But if any of this applies, you really ought to have a better perspective. 

  6. 1 hour ago, HornetFan said:

    They should move the start of the HS football season up to mid-August with the goal to finish before Thanksgiving. This virus didn't hit the US in the Fall of 2019; it came in late Winter. It's now the end of May and we still have Governors playing politics with the "Stay at Home" orders. Delaying the start of HS football will result in no HS football. Play the games without fans if necessary. This virus is overwhelmingly impacting senior citizens with almost 95% of deaths being aged 65 or over and 1/3 of all deaths are nursing home residents. The virus impacts younger people even less that the seasonal flu. Every day, I see young kids and teenagers playing together showing no interest in social distancing. Look at the beaches the past few weeks; they're crowded with teenagers. 

    Dude, it came in late winter because it did not migrate to humans in China till early winter, late fall. I guarantee you the second spike here will be in the fall. 

  7. 2 hours ago, roygod said:

    If there is any ignorance being demonstrated here I think it might be by somebody other than me. Over the course of evolution we have been hit with many new virus's and have developed immunities for most of them, and that is what we are doing right now, developing immunities to Covid19, except for the weak and unhealthy. We have hid long enough, its time to get back to living almost normal lives. Our young people have to get back to work before we totally destroy our economy. I'm 78 years old with diabetes, being overweight, and two stokes, a totally high risk subject. I had my flu shot in the fall but I still contracted the flu (or covid19) in the last weak of January while attending a high school basketball game. I'm still alive and ready to go to a high school football game.

    Knock yourself out. I will not be attending your funeral. 

  8. 49 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

    Do you honestly believe that the kids didn't know they were prohibited from participating in supervised practices while schools were shut down for the remainder of the school year?  FHSAA rules do not make exceptions for players or coaches who are "unaware" of the rules. 

    Not the point, though. The players are competing for starting positions and even to just make roster. Failure to go out and practice would surely jeopardize this objective. 

  9. 1 hour ago, badbird said:



    I agree with some of your points Darter.  Someone on a team is going to get it and it will quickly spread to them all.  Teams will have to cancel games and maybe the season.  Not sure the answer and what you can do sports wise.  However it appears we are headed right back to opening every thing up.  It's almost like the China virus never existed.  Problem is the virus isn't going away.  Just as many people are getting it every day.  I almost feel like until 70-80% of the people get it, it is not going to slow down.  I think the virus has to run it's course and not much we can do to stop it.   

    Coach, we have shut down for long enough. I will agree with that. What we did not do effectively, though, is ramp up testing and contact tracing during the shutdown. This is were we and China differed. One of my sons, a proud Apopka alumni, lives in China. So, I am very aware of how they handled theirs compared to how we have handled ours. Now to be fair, China is not America. Their system of government is more authoritarian. But if you look at South Korea and Taiwan, as well, a stark pattern emerges as to how we have behaved versus how they did. And it shows in the results. 

    I am now in my mid 60's. I have maintained good health due to strict diet and exercise. I would love to see my grandchild reach adulthood. You can be sure I will not engage in undisciplined, reckless behavior to compromise that. Based on where we are going in the USA you are probably right. Most of us will have to get it before it runs its natural course, unless a vaccine arrives within the next year. But I strongly feel it did not have to happen this way. 

    I am now retired, so I don't have to navigate the potential minefield of work. So, until we have a vaccine, effective treatment, or it "magically goes away", or it shows clear signs of having run its course, I will restrict my activities to my morning walk/run, grocery shopping, and other essential activities. For the first time in 22 seasons, I think I will miss the entire high school football season. 

  10. 51 minutes ago, roygod said:

    If we follow your plan to stay on our houses till we are safe from all future threats there will be no future football and probably no United States. The depression of 1933 will be kid stuff compared to your plan. We will become a third world country ruled by China.  We have a new strain of Flu Virus every year and we don't have vaccine's for many of them. Heck, one of us may go out and cross the street and get run over by a bus, or may die in a head on crash on I-95, or get hit by an meteor! There is no way we can predict the future, and there is no way we can stay locked up in our protective bubble for the rest of our lives. Let's get out there and return to normal quickly and take another chance like we do with every other situation we encounter in our everyday lives!!!

    You have, in a nutshell, demonstrated your abject ignorance. It is interesting you did not address the questions I specifically asked you. I will leave you be as it is not worth attempting to have an intelligent conversation with you.

    Stay safe, I wish you no harm.


  11. 6 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

    How I feel bout all of this let the kids play in august. No matter what day,year,or month We play ball there will be germs, from deadly to none deadly. 

    the air we breath is pollute,the meats we eat are poisoned & filled with steroids. With that said it’s time to get back to some form of normalcy, we can’t stay locked down forever neither can we expect to just wake up and it’s poof pow the world is back to normal; Everyone just needs to stay sanitary & let’s move forward.

    Bro, the problem I have with that is the following. Unlike something like HIV, it can be contracted very easily; and it kills quickly. Packed stadiums will be breeding grounds for its spread. Also, if one kid on the team has the virus, he will spread it to his teammates. As a result, whole teams may have to forfeit their seasons when an outbreak takes place. These teammates will take it home to their families. It could end up being a vicious cycle in some communities. The thing is, also, that it is the poor and lower middle class that will suffer the worst because of this. This means that minority communities (yours and mine) may end up with the worst impacts from this action.

    Believe me, I want to see high school football as much as anyone. I have not missed a week's game in 22 seasons except for when I have been out of state. I also understand that in some cases scholarships may be on the line. But to me there is nothing more precious than life. I don't want to lose mine, and I don't want to support a situation in which the lives of others may be lost to gratify my pleasure. I feel that by next year this time there will be an effective treatment or vaccine. The loss of one season is a reasonable price to pay for the safety of the community. 

  12. 22 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    We look at them today and think how crazy they were.  Those folks had no TV, no radio, no AC, etc etc.  I think about how desperate they must have been for some sort of diversion.  We have people today going off the deep end because they cannot get a haircut.  Put folks with today's mindset back in time and I bet they would be sitting in the stands, too. 

    For the past 22 seasons, I have gone to a game every week except when I was out of state. This season, I think I am going to take a pass unless there are positive developments between now and the start of the season. I feel I should, both for personal safety, I am not a young man, and because I don't want to condone/support a situation that could end in the death or serious illness of some of the participants, especially since they are all still amateurs in the strictest sense. 

  13. 3 hours ago, roygod said:

    The smartest medical people in the world cannot predict a second spike. If there is one we'll be ready for it. Also you'll notice there have been no deaths to high school age healthy players. But I can guarantee you there will be hurricanes!

    There have been deaths to a number of individuals under 20. So, you are wrong on that score. Also, your statement ignores the fact that high school players could be asymptomatic carriers, taking the virus home to older, sicker relatives. As, to a second spike, Coronaviruses almost always have second spikes. And, they typically occur in the fall.

    You state we will be ready for it if it occurs. Prey say how? We currently have neither a vaccine nor an effective regimen of drugs that can at least mitigate, if not cure, the illness. 

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