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  1. 2 hours ago, Jullian said:

    Reg 3 District 9

    #1) DP, Kiss Osc, West Orange

    Reg 4 District 16

    #2) Columbus, Palmetto, S Dade

    Those are two good choices. Another district that may be very competitive is Region 1, District 1. I have a feeling a couple of the Jacksonville area publics are going to be pretty good this year.

    Regarding Region 3, District 9, I expect Osceola and West Orange to fight it out for the automatic berth. I would not put too much stock into how Osceola looks in 7v7 over the summer. Despite having a very good QB, it is not their strength and I expect them to be very strong during the regular season. They return too much talent to now be good and they looked fine to me against Edgewater in the spring game.  

    DP did not look very good in their spring jamboree with WP and Apopka, but I refuse to believe that they will not look a lot better come August. So, while I don't favor them in the district, I certainly would not count them out. They have a history of deep playoff experience and while the last two seasons were disappointing, I am not ready to write them off just yet. 

  2. 24 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

    Seems to me if STA AHP & etc wasn’t in broward we would be having a completely diff story. 

    it amazes that it’s only happening in broward tho, if u look In Mia they have plenty of private schools but their public schools are whats dominating.

    The difference is that aside from Columbus and probably Belan and Gulliver, the privates in Dade don't have the resources to assemble very good to great teams. Of the three, only Columbus, relatively recently, has show a serious interest in going down the path of an Aquinas, AHP or Gibbons. It makes a big difference. 

  3. 6 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

    Exactly but I belief depending on your region making the regionals is pretty impressive. 

    it just pains me to see how broward county public schools just can’t get put it together even tho we have so much talent. 

    The problem is, talent is necessary, but not necessarily sufficient. You need stable coaching, commitment to the school you play for, adequate facilities, etc., to consistently be a deep threat. With mega teams, both public and private, literally in your backyard, it is difficult to get the kids to stay home. 

    Deerfield has actually been able to keep its talent and do relatively well in the recruiting game. However, for reasons I cannot explain, they tend to fail in the third and fourth rounds. 

  4. 9 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

    Now when you say deep run are you talking state title game appearance ? Because Dillard went 12-0 and made it to the regional finals in 2019 

    then in 2020 we were introduced to the first TRI county playoffs and championship and Dillard won the entire thing. 

    deerfield seems to be more consistent is because their first one or two rounds of the playoffs is never at the level of what Dillard sees hell even in the first round as a district winner. But yet Deerfield still leads the state as having the most first and second round home playoff exits as the favorite. 

    When I say deep run, I mean making the semis or state title game. In other words, winning at least the Regional title. That's my criterion precisely because some schools have two and sometimes, three relatively easy playoff games. But by the time you get to the fourth round, you are playing a really good team regardless of classification or bracket. 

  5. 4 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

    It’s crazy bro because some will say More talent come out of broward then it do Miami but yet when you look at the “PUBLIC SCHOOL POWERHOUSES” can we say they’re really powerhouses ???

    Flanagan one hit wonder the year they had all those transfers, Miramar one hit wonder, Deerfield is looked at as a state powerhouse year after year & has yet to hoist a title. 

    Dillard last FHSAA title was in 1989 were in 2021 & Dillard still leads the county in state championships with TWO!! let that sink in, we have not hoisted a FHSAA title since 89 & NO other public school in broward county has yet to pass 2 titles SMH, but yet our county is so rich with talent.

    In the past 20+ years, Deerfield Beach has been the most consistent public. But they have only made the title game once, and got blown out after upsetting a talented, but very young MNW team in 2005. They also lost semifinals to Apopka in 2001 and to Edgewater in 2003 and to Miami Northwestern in 2007 and to Columbus in 2019. Apopka, Columbus and Northwestern went on to win states those years. Edgewater fell to a Carol City team that had one of the best high school defenses I ever saw. 

    Dillard has resurrected itself over the past three seasons, but is still awaiting a deep run. It has been hampered by having to play powerhouse teams early on in the playoffs. So, the jury is out on Dillard. The talent is certainly there, but it will need the staff to stay relatively intact so that they can keep it at Dillard. If they do, I expect you will make a title game within the next 2-5 years. Having St. Thomas Aquinas in your district is both a blessing and a curse. 

  6. 1. The powerful private schools over the past 20+ years have taken the cream of Broward's talent.

    2. Much of Broward's talent has gone to teams in Northwest Dade County.

    3. The instability of the coaching staffs at most of the Broward Public schools. 

    I believe the above accounts for most of Broward's public school woes in the past 20+ years. I won't comment on pre 1996, as that was before I started following the game closely. 

  7. 9 hours ago, FBGUY1989 said:

    Windermere just opened and already have a new school to help with overcrowding and I know Apopka is overcrowded as well

    There has been a lot of building in the Windemere zone over the past 20 years. What used to be semi-rural (Orange groves and the like) are now built up. To be honest, the only part of Orange that is not substantially built up is the extreme East and the very extreme North West. Apopka is about 10 to 15% overcapacity, but that could be solved (at least in theory) by rezoning, as both Edgewater and Wekiva are below capacity. 

  8. 34 minutes ago, FBGUY1989 said:

    How does the Orlando area determine new schools. Miami and Broward are totally different

    Cypress Bay High School Enrollment 4800 

    John A. Ferguson Senior High Enrollment 4250

    Coral Reef Senior High Enrollment 3400

    South Dade Senior High Enrollment 3200

    G. Holmes Braddock Senior High Enrollment 3100

    Coral Gables Senior High Enrollment 3100

    Miami Coral Park Senior High Enrollment 3000

    Miami Senior High Enrollment 2900

    In Orange County, new high schools are usually built (there are a few exceptions), to cater to an enrollment of approximately 3,000. So, in that sense, at capacity, all but one public high school I can think of, would meet 8A classification. Several Orange County high schools currently have enrollments in excess of 3,000 meaning they exceed capacity. 

    I am not sure what the deal is in Seminole,  but all high schools there are currently in either 8A or 7A for football meaning their enrollments vary from about 1,900 up to well over 3,000. 

  9. Both will apparently be playing Varsity Football in the their first year of existence and are in a 5A district with two Lake County schools. LBV relieves Dr. Phillips and Freedom, while Horizon was built to relieve Windemere High, but will no doubt impact West Orange High as well with the passage of time.

    I don't expect either to have an immediate impact on DP or, for that matter, WO football over the immediate future (first two to three years); however, over an intermediate timeframe, both could impact the overall strength and quality of their neighboring programs.  

    It should be interesting to see if either becomes a playoff contender over the next 5-10 years or join the plethora of new programs that have struggled to gain traction in recent times. Both, but especially LBV, could grow into being 8A classified schools within 3-5 years. 

  10. 36 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

    Lake Minneola had a stud QB transfer in last season, but I don't know if he will be there this coming Fall. If he is there, I would expect them to be one of the better teams in their class.

    I assume he was the starter that was injured early in the season. If he's still in that part of Lake County, I expect he will stay. LM is the big dog in that neck of the woods. They have replaced East Ridge which used to be the best in that area. 

  11. 27 minutes ago, HornetFan said:

    I don't follow Lake Minneola so I can't say what talent will return from this past season, but they will be getting a talented young WR transfer from Winter Park HS. His name is Braylon Knauth and he'll be a 10th grader next Fall. WP hates to lose him, but LM should be very happy. Check him out on Hudl and Twitter.

    Did he play Varsity last year or was he on the freshman squad? He's still a bit undersized (short), but has the makings of a good to very good receiver/slot. Looked solid enough on defense as well. 

  12. 6 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

    Seems like a tough schedule to me...

    KOC- @ Miami Northwestern

    Week 1- Cardinals Gibbons

    Week 2- Edgewater

    Week 3- Cocoa

    Week 4- @ Sarasota

    Week 5- Palmetto

    Week 6- Bye

    Week 7- @ Lakewood Ranch

    Week 8- Manatee

    Week 9- Gulf Coast

    Week 10- Riverview

    Week 11- North Fort Myers

    Thoughts? I think Venice can go undefeated, but Edgewater isn’t going to be easy and Gibbons beat STA last year.



    The first half of your schedule (including the KOC) is very tough. If you go undefeated through the first six games, then you probably go undefeated (at least through the regular season). If Edgewater's QB and OL do not make a significant step up over the summer, I give Venice the edge at home, as Venice looked very good on tape in your jamboree. But it will still be a very good game. 

    As I type this, Venice is an early favorite to at least make it to the 8a Regional final this year, and, perhaps, beyond. 

  13. 1 minute ago, skyway said:

    In a couple of decades worth of observing both the Florida Varsity board and this one, it's always amazed and amused me how small the list of regulars engaging is, and yet how abrasive the people ostensibly interested in growing the board are. Seemed like 80% of Mr High School comments were argumentative, personal attacks or responding to personal attacks. We see much of the same with the regulars here. In fact, I expect to get some insults for this very comment :rolleyes:

    We live in unusual times, where tempers are frayed and a sense of community is not prized. One day, this will pass. But for now, what you observe will continue to be the normal. 

  14. 2 hours ago, FBGUY1989 said:

    The problem is Florida doesn't have a good attendance crowd for high school football games. 2020 was just bad all around because of Covid but in 2019 besides from 5A which we know Northwestern travels and now is in 6A none of the other games were packed. Personally speaking I think Orlando was the best spot to host the games. Amusement Parks, Restaurants, Hotels just plenty of family oriented things to do. Not to mention Dr. Phillips, Apopka, Jones, Edgewater, Boone, Lake Brantley and Seminole naming a few cause of proximity to the stadium and who's been to state would pack the house. I wish Florida could be like California or Texas 

    Considering the level of talent on the field, it's a shame that high school football does not attract better attendance in Florida. This is probably due to the fact that the state's population is not stable in most of the metro areas along with the fact that there are just a number of other attractions competing for attention. In the 24 seasons I have watched high school football in Florida I have seen dozens of players that eventually went on to the NFL when they were playing at the high school level. 

  15. 1 hour ago, badbird said:

    Seminole and Edgewater are not currently top 10 teams

    Edgewater is not far off. The QB needs to improve rapidly over the summer and the O Line needs experience. The defense is already top 20 caliber. 

  16. 1 hour ago, SportsNut25 said:

    Keith Barefield Jr will be the new LG head coach, the program announced this morning. 

    Appears to be an assistant on staff and formerly on staff at Southeastern University when his father was the HC. 

    Former defensive analyst at Louisiana Lafayette and OC at Quincy (D2) 

    Given the timing of the former HBC's departure, I think LG did the right thing in the circumstances they were faced with. 

  17. I will give you input on where you put some of the Central Florida teams. First, Osceola needs to be at least on par with Edgewater. They beat them legitimately in their spring game. Second, on paper, and based on what I saw in their spring jamboree, this Apopka team has the potential to be its best in many years. Now with that said, they were raw in the spring game, but they were missing a few key pieces of the puzzle and were transitioning to a new offense. Third, if you are going to rank Jones 8, then West Orange deserves to be somewhere in the top 20. Jones beat them by a score in a back and forth game that could have gone either way if you look at the video. 

    Finally, I seriously question the teams you have ranked from 15-20. Yes, good arguments can be made for some of them. But others don't belong and that will become apparent very soon into the new season.  

  18. 3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    44 is normally one of the lower degree days up here


    I can't remember last time in December it was in the 30s

    It was a bad night. I swear, I had been to colder games in the New York area when I lived up there. 

  19. 4 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

    His dad came on the staff (DC, I think) after we lost some of the coaching staff 

    Makes perfect sense. Kid is from Flanagan High. So, that's why he moved. He is a good player. 

  20. 10 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    It doesn't get that cold up here, I wish it did because I like the cold weather because it feels mild compared to the summer heat 

    In 2002, I watched Edgewater vs Norland in a state title game in Tally. At game time, it was 44 degrees and manageable. By the end of the first half, it was about 30 degrees and I was freezing. I had not brought the right clothes for the weather, and it was a very chilling experience. 

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