Pipe Dreams
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Guru is in it!
Legendary film. Can’t find it anywhere.
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Games between ranked teams added to original post (edit).
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Out of Brevard I’d include Cocoa (~ #1-4) and Rockledge (~ #6-8). Likely Viera as well.
It’s tough to gauge Brevard comparatively because they tend to play other coastal teams (north and south of Brevard) and don’t have representation in 8A (where a ton of Orlando metro teams are placed).
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SIDE NOTE.. The top 8 to 10 teams in the ranking are very close. We’ll see who rises to the top... for the most part they all play each other.
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Without Hamilton I should drop them a few spots... Didn’t know that.
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DP has 9 guys with D1 offers and 6-7 with D1-AA offers. They’re certainly in the 8A North conversation but there are about 8-10 real contenders at this point.
Last year they were very young. The talent is spread across the 2020, 2021 and 2022 classes.
2022 could be a special class for DP.
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Apopka also lost to Seabreeze 36-0 one year in the spring. Other years they play total cupcakes in the spring.
New coach, Hamilton at RB/wherever, giving them time.
We’re splitting hairs from 2 to 11. Tons of parity expected. Ranking holds.
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Rank, team, class-region, hypothetical spread
- Edgewater — (7A-R1)
- Cocoa — (4A-R2) +3
- Jones — (5A-R2) +3
- Seminole — (8A R1) +6
- Winter Park — (8A-R1) +8
- Rockledge — (5A-R3) +16
- Osceola — (8A-R2) +16
- Bishop Moore — (5A-R2) +16
- Dr. Phillips — (8A-R2) +17
- Mainland — (6A-R1) +17
- Lake Mary — (8A-R1) +17
- West Orange — (8A-R1) +20
- Apopka — (8A-R1) +20
- Viera — (7A-R2) +21
- Wekiva — (7A-R1) +21
- Oviedo — (8A-R1) +24
- Spruce Creek — (8A-R1) +27
- Ocoee — (8A-R1) +27
- Olympia — (8A-R2) +28
Ranking includes Orange (9 teams), Seminole (3), Brevard (3), Volusia (2), Osceola (1), Sumter (0) & Lake (0) counties.
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The following games between the ranked teams (29 total) represent an average of 1.61 ranked regular season opponents per ranked team. There are also national opponents that have not been incoporated into this stat.
Weeks 1, 5, 7 and 11 are the best weeks of the season prior to the playoffs.
Week 1
DP @ Seminole - Pick: Seminole wins 35-20
Edgewater @ #Bishop Moore - Pick: Edgewater wins 35-17
#Olympia @ West Orange - Pick: West Orange wins 39-24
#Viera @ Cocoa - Pick: Cocoa wins 36-14
Winter Park @ Wekiva - Pick: Winter Park wins 24-13
Week 2
Seminole @ Lake Mary
West Orange @ Wekiva
Week 3
Jones @ Edgewater
Osceola @ Cocoa
West Orange @ DP
Olympia @ Wekiva
Week 4
Bishop Moore @ Jones
Week 5
#3 Seminole @ Mainland
#6 Rockledge @ Viera
Winter Park @ Edgewater
Apopka @ DP
Week 6
Lake Mary @ West Orange
Week 7
Mainland @ Cocoa
Apopka @ Jones
DP @ #Wekiva
Lake Mary @ Oviedo
Week 8
Winter Park @ Oviedo
Olympia @ DP
West Orange @ Apopka
Week 10
Lake Mary @ Apopka
Week 11
Cocoa @ Rockledge
West Orange @ Jones
Wekiva @ Apopka
Oviedo @ Spruce Creek
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Damn South Florida is loaded.
They could sweep 4A thru 7A, with a toss up in 8A. Not sure about the lower classes.
Northwestern, Central and Carol City were the biggest winners in the 2019 realignment.
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Stephen Dix is primed for another big year, definitely looks like a potential NFL talent
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8A north has always been one of the most interesting mini-brackets in the state. It used to be 6A north until 2011. Year in and year out there are 5-8 serious state title contenders out of 8A Region 1 and 8A Region 2.
This has been my primary focus since ~2011. I focus primarily on these teams as well as other state contenders from 4A up. Here is my list of potentially lethal playoff contenders as well as potential dark horses, with my top 10 in CAPS. Asterisks given to Top 5
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1
MANDARIN*
Sandalwood
Bartram Trail
2
SEMINOLE*
Flagler Palm Coast
DeLand
Spruce Creek
3
WINTER PARK*
Oviedo
4
LAKE MARY
APOPKA
WEST ORANGE
5
DR PHILLIPS*
Boone
Olympia
6
OSCEOLA
Lake Nona
7
PLANT*
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SARASOTA RIVERVIEW
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love the theme OldSchool... keeping it going thru the Summer impasse.
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Bonus question:
What other future NFL star did he play against in the one HS game that mattered most to both?
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Dr Phillips Schedule
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Kickoff Classic: @ Edgewater
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@ Sanford Seminole
@ Timber Creek
@ West Orange
Boone
Apopka
Windermere
@ Wekiva
Olympia
East Ridge
@ Oak Ridge
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ahhh the acronyms..... ban this man!!!
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I’ve said it for years.
If a kid and his parents decide to move to another school zone, or to enroll in a school in search of better coaching (and college football opportunities), then they have every right to do so.
The free market approach makes certain school zones more desirable depending on what a family is looking for (school grade, athletic program, etc).
If you build it they will come.
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Two of the top 8 (Plant & Dr. Phillips) had to play each other in the second round 4 of those 10 years.
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Yes, that's the game.
That DP team had enough to win it all.
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I’ll rank them:
1t) Dr. Phillips
1t) Plant
3) Osceola
4) Sarasota Riverview
5) Lake Nona
6) Boone
7) Olympia
Plant and Dr. Phillips will renew their rivalry. Those were classics from 2011 to 2014. The 2013 OT game was a nightmare as a sure DP pick was tipped and the Plant WR took it ~80 yards to force OT in the last 2 minutes.
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Osceola/Edgewater will be in the mix as well... Central Florida may have a good amount of parity in its top 8.
8A north will again be a great bracket.
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Winter Park and DP should both be top 6 in CFL to start the year. I’d probably have them each in the 2-5 range.
I also like Jones, Apopka, Seminole, Lake Mary and Mainland.
Olympia could be much better. Wekiva could drop off some. West Orange is a bit of a wildcard.
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DP depth. Projected high impact players.
* D1 offer
^ D1AA offer
(2) multi-position player
QB - Joe Patti (So) / Brenden Cyr
RB - Brandon Fields *
RB - Nivon Holland
RB - Rodney Wells Jr (So)
ATH - Jaydan Taylor (So) (2) *
WR - Joanes Fortilien (So) *
WR - Jacquez Jones
WR - Jalen Washington (Jr)
WR - Ledger Hatch (Jr) *
WR/TE - Trey Schyck
TE - Jackson Hodor
T - Kyjuan Phillips (Jr) — 6’4, 270
T - Derek Haupt — 6’4, 280 ^
G - Austin Purpura (Jr) — 6’2, 280
G - Devin Hill (So) — 6’2, 280
C - Reggie Hayes (Jr) — 6’1, 245
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CB - Tevin Griffey *
S - Jadai Smith (Jr) *
S - Jalen Moore (Jr)
CB - Kameryn Metcalf (So)
DE - Shemar Williams
DE - Shi Gaskin
DL - Malik Carson
DL - Chris Henson
MLB - Stephen Dix *
OLB- Jean Charles (So)
OLB/SS - Steve Julssaint
OLB - Jaydan Taylor (So) (2) *
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DP will need the following to compete for the 8A title:
1) Consistent QB play. Patti does not turn the ball over as much as the spring game showed. This is the clear #1 factor by a longshot. Joe is Nick/Tony Patti’s cousin.
2) Depth on defense. The defensive line, defensive backfield and linebacker core do not have much proven talent beyond ~12 players. Many of those guys are high level, but young.
3) DP averages around 270 on the OLINE but the talent is young. They need a big summer and this needs to be a strength of the team. The OLINE did not open enough holes last year. IF this offensive line comes together and plays to its potential DP’s offense will be lethal. This is the biggest opportunity area for DP heading into the summer alongside QB development.
4) A breakout season by RB Brandon Fields, a senior committed to South Carolina who did not play in the spring game due to baseball. See #3 - that will determine how good of a season Fields has. He needs open space and can be a bruiser.
This DP team has talent in every class, primarily the class of 2022 (sophomores this upcoming season). The wide receiver core is loaded - 6 deep - running back is loaded 3 deep, and the offensive line has the size to take control if they have a good summer. The defense is top-heavy with talent but needs depth.
D1 offers by class (& projected # of additional d1 offers)
2020: 4 (3-4) — 7-8 total
2021: 2 (3-4) — 5-6 total
2022: 2 (5-6) — 7-8 total (TBD)
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Dr. Phillips and Jones are loaded with young talent as well.
Dr. Phillips’ 2022 class in particular is getting a ton of early interest. Two guys already have high D1 offers.
2001 6A Title Game - Northwestern v Apopka
in The Huddle
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knew badbird was guru, liked the name guru better.
badbird/guru, remember when Berry’s son for Apopka punted in the 4th qtr vs DP in 2005, up 16-13, evading the SURE sack/block/fumble on the 1 while being tackled, and DP fumbled the punt return ???
We had y’all. Crazy 14-point play.
badbird and I have actually been on opposing sidelines, head coach (APK) vs player (DP). I missed the first 6 games that year with a broken fibula. I’m sure Guru is relieved of that fact (ha)