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so yall dont get recurits in like previously stated?

@Ray Icaza care to elaborate on this, since I dont know any of the players in osceola county by name or where they went

thats hilairous! how many kids have left osceola and gone to poinciana? and why? reading above, its for playing time? so osceola back ups, 3rd teamers, go over to poinciana and help them win the most games in school history and it goes out that scheme and culture is changing, lol, no you have studs come in and and know how to play and playing vs someone alot less talented on the other sideline so things are a bit simplier. wow... how many true poinciana kids are starters on the all 22? kids that were 9th, 10th,11th, 12th graders thru the system and not transfers from somewhere else?

hmmmm, your pretty smart fella, you read what I wrote, pretty obvious right..... been in the center part of this state for 20plus years and seen how dominant some of the squads are, til they face jacksonville or miami teams, sprinkled in with tampa squads.

on what basis do you have to state any 1 team is better than the other? thats called opnion. osceola is the class of the county and have been and will continue to be, until someone dethrones them. toho is on the up and up with an explosive offense and a coach who knows how to score points. harmony always has a rough and rugged team, but look like they are on a downturn st cloud is up and down every 2 or 3 seasons, doesnt help that the district lines seem to change yearly for them and gateway gateway, celebration, liberty all yearly the bottom of the county, taking turns with poinciana. who has had 1 good year(with a 900+ ranking in SOS) in 20+ years and they are instantly #2 in the county, becaus you say so? what merit do you have to say that? you watched a 7 on 7? so they have the best dbs based of 7 on 7. right.......I remember a post on twitter saying they got blown out a couple times at one of the 7 on 7s.... so......

true homer then, no wonder all those twitter posts calling poinciana best dbs, best this best that, #2 team in county, no wonder your account got suspended.... call it llike i see it

literally a poinciana coach, no chance someone just goes to nature coast to watch a game unless its a parent or a coach. fans of the the game would have went anywhere else. literally.... nice try on the fake name.....

alright, guess this is all untrue too. im sure ray will chime in....... about a month ago the OC was fired/quit for a disagreement between him and EP, stating that EP was playing the wrong qb.....then at the recent 7v7 when osceola was beat a few times and handly by some local squads they trounce in regular season(yes its just 7 v7), ol coach trying to call plays and it was abysmal to say the least add that only 3 or 4 coaches were even in attendance....ep basically called chad and asked him to come back, he needed him..... lots of holes in that one......

i know a guy whos best friends cousin is friends with a guy whos related to the nephew of one of the guys that knows some of the people who go to ktown games and he said that the staff is divided, hasnt been togheter 1 time all summer, that the OC was fired or quit and that the hc was ready to hang em up becuase he loves track more than football. but, thats just what he heard so its likely untrue. but thats who also said swint was out 4 weeks at minimum and maybe more.....

with the unproven qb play, Swint set to sit out the first 4 weeks or possibly more, 4 new starters on the dl and 3 in the secondary, id say alot of questions are coming out of ktown....and will they be able to uphold the tradition of that school. im not so sure.

rumor on the streets, as there was a board meeting for fhsaa the last few days, several countys are putting together ideas that would become "nightmare scenario" (the exact phrase I was told)--- school a is always good at basketball, but other county schools are just ok and some are terrible, push all those ok kids to school a and do away with basketball at all the other schools. school b in same county is really good at football, but terrible at basketball. other schools are ok to good, push all the good kids to school b and do away with football at rest of schools. etc. have powerhouse sport specific schools. the district, regional, state series would become a complete waste of time as some school districts may only have a school or 2 that are playing specific sports.... nightmare indeed, if it becomes rampant across the state.... already underpaid teachers and coaches in the best sport state in the country, florida sports will become a complete joke if any of these ideas come to fruition. add in that ole Ron is making school start at 830 across the state in 3 years, now getting involved with athletics, smh

they ran a little more spread type stuff 2012ish 2013ish when zack was there, it was for sure a dangerous combo to see 2x2 and then all a sudden they shift into single wing or vice versa. i couldnt imagine game planning for the same personnell groupings for a spread em out offense and a smash mouth one.

no single wing-could also be why they had zero offensive touchdowns.....

everyone wants to sit in that big chair, until they figure out your now ceo laundry boy helmet repair guy field maintence paint crew PR executive wrist taper highlight film maker nose wiper booster president fundraising expert recruiting guru teacher of regular ed kids lesson plan writer of those regular ed classes you teach tech guy camera guy just to name a few roles and didnt say 1 thing about on field coaching......

interesting..... as I drum up some h8, the atlantic league looks like the best teams in the league, or maybe Im misreading this. alot of fhsaa teams that wasnt making playoffs. then the regular league is all the small schools. kinda looks like fhsaa model of suburban and metro. will the atlantic league champs play the ssac champs?

oh for sure they would lose, when did the statue come out? when the rep from polk county, lakeland area, went and forced her hand with this. due to publix high kids bolting to lakeland and that coach/admin was going to turn them in. if my old man memory serves me correctly.... it hasnt been that long ago fhsaa was in charge of the sports.....

well said @Ray Icaza 1 yr sit rule would eliminate alot of the tomfoolery going on in the HS transfer portal....fhsaa doesnt have the cajones to pull it off tho. they dont want anyone to sue them for not allowing thier baby to play ball where the rich get richer and poor stay in the dumps....

even a h8r can agree with this..... nil and transfer portal killing college football programs, which in turn are kicking high school recruiting in the teeth and high school transfers are following suit. dam shame

while the 11 kids on the field matter most, so does the school population, when there are 11 more kids on the sideline that are of similar ability and 11 more that are close to that ability and 11 more and 11 more, now you have 50+ varsity kids that are of similar ability. if the school population of A isnt nearly as high B, then you have much less to choose from. 4000 kids, half boys (2000), half are athletes (1000) and 10% play football, 100. 2 teams (JV, V), 50 kids in each. 2000 kids, half boys (1000), half are athletes (500) and 10% play football, 50. 2 teams (JV,V), 25 kids in each. school population DOES matter. Well recruit your halls better is going to be someones answer..... Football is hard, the commitment is even harder, its hot, its 10,11 month commitment, its all summer, its playing a 2nd sport to get better, etc. Every kid isnt a football player, go to any high school gym and watch a basketball game. or boys volleyball game. almost all of those kids could help school B out, 1000%. but, If I can run up and down the court in AC, not lift nearly as much weight(messes up my jumper-says every high school BBall kid) and just take 22ft shots for a couple hours, why would he go out and do bag drills and cone drills and catch passes and put on equipment and hurt and sweat, etc. putting small schools with bigger schools is a complete disadvantage to many of them. take this district, ocoee, west orange and jones absolutely demolish everyone here..... District 22 Ocoee West Orange (Winter Garden) Horizon (Winter Garden) Jones (Orlando) Foundation Academy (Winter Garden) Orangewood Christian (Maitland) Trinity Preparatory (Winter Park) orangewood christian and trinity prep have zero business in this district. foundation would put up a fight in some years, but they to have no business here. horizon is still in infant stages of its opening. west orange has 3000 kids, ocoee too. jones is close to 2k, with a plethora of talent in their area. im not saying fair or not fair, thats ignorance. but whats the point of ocoee playing trinity prep? running clock in 1st qtr? I dont see the point of having the 7th place teams in a district playing extra weeks of football just for participation reasons.....thats exactly why the classes were introduced...... to play against similar size opponents, so 1 school doesnt have 100 on the sideline and the other has 25....

hmmm......interesting

qb transfer from another state 2 wrs transfers from osceola those 3 kids are not real poinciana kids that yall developed. need to be honest about it and not sugar coat it...... h8r

thats just a silly statement. 80%+ of high schools schedule is done by head coaches and ADs, some counties like orange force their schools to schedule metro teams 1st, seminole county does it to(i believe). so your handcuffed as a match maker. yearly doormat team A that has won 75 games in 25 years has to play yearly state powerhouse team B that has won 75 games in 7 years......cant blame coach or AD for that, for sure cant blame florida for that..... h8r

indiana basketball used to be 1 class, idk anymore. wrestling i think still is 1 class-32 man tourney win friday night you advance to saturday 16 man bracket. lose and go home. caused for some serious matches on friday just to survive and advance. texas has no running clock. why stats and scores from texas are outrageous. some real good teams, but the avg to below are just plain awful. 1 state champ wont ever work, not enough money not enough weeks in season to have a big enough bracket to do it. if you took top 16, your leaving out some teams that would well be deserving to get a chance to play. im sure someone here could post the top 16 teams in the state and not everyone one of the smart guys here would agree on top 16. and with that, who chooses whos top 16? coaches poll? admin? fhsaa? maxpreps? regardless, someone would hate that 2 and it would be a mistake and a joke and stupid and blah blah. cant make everyone happy, shouldnt even try too. everyone gets a trophy, everyone needs a hug, everyone needs reassurance that your 2-8 team is deserving to play in the tournament, because you only lost to "insert powerhouse here" 56-6 and they beat everyone much worse......

if only all the games were played in 1 central location so people could spend a weekend watching all the excitement. having to drive to tally from naples or from penscola to ft lauderdale, is a complete travesty to the fans.....while daytona and that small stadium and no parking was a joke, why wouldnt the fhsaa try like heck to get ucf stadium....its in central part of state, 3 hrs or so from each end. the citrus bowl was too big and Im sure they asked for a gazillion dollars to host and parking downton orlando isnt very much fun, 10k people in that staidum made it look empty, but 10k at the bounce house and its jumping pretty dang good. oh well.

Well Batman, I shall call em like I see em...... Coach Nichols, did, not, run, the, single wing...... And yes zero championships, but bewteen him and Coach Rolson, getting there more than 4x, sure is not insanity..... You have to be in the big game in order to be able to win the big game. With all those major d1 kids running around at markus paul field, you sure would think that running that saturday afternoon offense would produce at the very least, a shot to win it in the big game. 2x2, 3x1, teams see it weekly, if not daily. easy to figure out how to defend it. ask anyone with a backside in the stands, they will tell you. those same people cant even find the ball in a good flexbone and swear to the holy man that trap and power are the same play and why not "open it up" to win via the pass.....dare that wing t team run counter criss cross and it goes untouched as 10 guys flow to the buck sweep, and that same "open it up guy" calls it a gimmick play and would never work vs a real team or better coached team.... Flexbone is not single wing, nor is single wing the wing t as is double tight double wing, is none of those either. some similar principles, sure, maybe, kinda, but definetly not the same. the amount of teams that win state titles in the country running wing t, flexbone, single wing, is overwhelmingly larger than those trying to fit a square hole into a round peg and run the spread(is that an offense or a formation?)..... heaven forbid we look at corky rogers and his incredible amount of wins and what did he run at jax bolles......the delaware wing t.....he did kinda good.....won a couple titles with it. h8r