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  1. Please continue, Darter. What are your concerns?
  2. Count me in. And the good thing is that I can rely 100% on the FHSAA Power Rankings to make my picks. Now that the regular season is over, the ranking should be perfect!
  3. Berkeley Prep Umatilla Clearwater Central Catholic Ely Lincoln Nature Coast Bartram Trail South Walton Venice Palm Beach Central Robinson Ponte Vedra Frostproof Lake Mary *SSA Atlantic 1A Championship* Bell Add total points prediction for tiebreaker - for two teams that have each been shut out or held to one score a total of seven times this year, I'm tempted to go with "zero." But, someone has to score at some point. So, I'll go with 33 instead.
  4. Just curious, what happened the first time they played or what would happen the next time they play that leads you to your conclusion?
  5. Isn't that the way it works now? But they just call them District Championships and Regional Championships. In my view, if you're still playing games after you win a so-called "state championship," that state championship loses a lot of its luster. The only thing that would change my perspective on that issue would be a Florida state championship team playing in a national title game/tournament, which doesn't exist yet.
  6. Someone correct me if I am wrong (and I have a great deal of confidence that one or more of you will jump at the opportunity to do so if that is the case): the "new" Open Class idea being considered by the FHSAA basically forces teams into that Big Dawg of classifications based on the success the team had that season or the season before, right? My biggest concern with that approach is that it 'penalizes' the schools that have the occasional once-in-a-generation, stars-align, special season where they have a chance (under the current system) to make a run at a state title. No guaranties that they'll win it and they'll likely have to knock off a perennial power to do so, but they can make a run at it and if everything goes their way, they may end up with a championship. I'm thinking of teams like Bloomingdale or Bartram Trail a few years ago (and forgive me if those teams have had more success than I recall), that have a couple of special athletes and/or an exceptional class that outperforms anything the school has done in recent history. To me, that's what high school football is all about. If you force those teams into a 16 or 32 team winner-take-all Big Dawg playoff system, you likely deprive those schools of their moment in the sun. Even worse, if you make a team like that play in that kind of division the year after they have their glory season, you're relegating them to a miserable season of playing all the other perennial powers and going from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows. That also is my biggest hesitation to a promotion/relegation system. That works in professional sports where you can hang onto to star players for more than a year or two and where you have the ability to use the financial benefits of your new-found success to further improve your roster. More often than not, that's simply not the case with high school football. Teams that have an amazing run one year typically fall back to where they've been the past decade. I tend to come down in favor of an open division for the creme de la creme. Cap the number at a set number of teams (probably somewhere around 15-20, with the understanding that not every team will make the playoffs). The teams in this division would not be in a district, but could play any teams willing to play them in the regular season, so long as they played a minimum number of games against other open-division opponents. But here's the biggest difference in what I think the FHSAA is considering and what I'd prefer to see: the teams get to decide if they want to play in this division or not . . . perhaps a 2-year commitment, maybe even 3 or 4). I'm guessing teams like Central, MNW, AH, TCA, Chaminade, Cocoa, STA, Norland, Columbus, Lakeland, Venice, Armwood, Jesuit, Apopka, Osceola, and others would be good candidates (my apologies to any Williston fans for not mentioning them). Take those teams out of the regular playoffs, and perhaps reduce the number of classifications by a couple, with larger districts, and maybe limit/handicap transfers into these 'regular' schools, while letting the open division schools essentially do what they want, and I think you'd see more competitive playoffs and one helluva playoffs in the open division. Just a thought . . . or two.
  7. No worries. Venice didn't even understand the question.
  8. I'm leaning towards "No Contest" early in the 4th quarter.
  9. What? You don't think 1R Williston is better than both 4M Lake Mary and 4M Seminole?
  10. My apologies in advance for returning this thread to its original titled theme. Class 4M, Region 2 has some interesting dynamics. The top seed in the region, with one week to go, is Sumner. Sumner did not win its district. They lost to Durant, who is currently the 6-seed. One other team from the district (Riverview) is in the top 8. So, it would appear District 8 is the toughest district in the region, but assuming no changes between this week and next, the winner of that district -- Durant -- will not get to host a first round playoff game because they are seeded sixth and will face 3rd-seeded Olympia, the district 5 winner. Sumner, on the other hand, will host a first round game because they'll play Plant City (district 7 runner-up and 8 seed). Again, assuming no more changes, 2nd-seeded Plant will host Riverview and 5th-seeded Palm Harbor University (district champ by virtue of having the highest power ranking in the district) will host 4th-seeded Dr. Phillips (district 5 runner-up). Again, the take-away: the top seed in the region did not win its district and will host a first-round game, whereas the district winner will have to travel to Orlando to play its first round game because it's matched up against another district winner that has a higher Power Ranking. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
  11. Why would we be mad at your wife? #dadjokes
  12. Not necessarily saying you're wrong, but I find it interesting that when you get down to the bottom part of that list, you've got Armwood ranked one above Jesuit when Jesuit beat Armwood head-to-head earlier this year (and since that game, neither team has lost).
  13. The FHSAA Power Rankings respectfully disagrees.
  14. What, they don't have the Internet in Tennessee? That would be crazy since the inventor of the Internet is from Tennessee.
  15. Clearly, my lack of knowledge of 1S teams and/or teams from Zephyrhills cost me this past week.
  16. For anyone who was there: 1. Did the officials end the game after the altercation? The video seems to end with both teams being told to head to opposite end zones. 2. If the officials chose to simply end the game, would there have been any need to eject players? (Like when a MLB manager comes out to argue the final out of a game and then gets ejected from a game that already is over). If the officials decided that ejections would be a moot point, can/will the FHSAA still review the video? 3. Were any ejections announced? If so, how many? 4. If memory serves me correct, the schools involved have an obligation to report to the FHSAA any players who were involved in unsportsmanlike acts (or maybe just the ones that resulted in disqualification, I'm not sure) and they have to do it very soon thereafter (like by the following day). I wonder if Lakeland did this? Anyone?
  17. Exactly. I was replying to 181's suggestion that enlarging the size of the districts automatically solves the problems created by the Power Rankings. While I agree that larger districts are needed, you'll still have problems if you use a Power Ranking to break ties instead of some sort of on-the-field tie-breaker.
  18. Ray, I think you're right. If things stay the way they are and University is a 1 seed but not the district champ and Osceola is an 8 seed, but a district champ, the Kowboys should host the 1-round game.
  19. But unless ties are determined on the field, the problem can still exist. Say you've got a 7 or 8-team district and one of the teams runs the table. The next three teams end up tied for second and they all have two district losses (All 3 teams lose to A; B beat C; C beat D; and D beat B). How do you determine who the "second place team" is for purposes of the playoffs?
  20. Were disqualifications/ejections announced? I'm pretty sure that fighting results in disqualification. I guess it's up to the officials to determine at what point a situation escalates from 'post-play pushing and shoving' to fighting. But if a player gets ejected for fighting, absent relief from the FHSAA Exec. Dir., that player is looking at a 5-game suspension. And I think the same thing applies to any players who leave the bench to participate in an altercation. There were several Lakeland players who did this. They may have been subs or, by that point of the game, they may have been starters who already had been pulled from the game and given the rest of the night off. Well, they may get the rest of the season off now. No question that several players left the bench area. And no question that multiple Lakeland players can be seen throwing punches. All of those players could be done for the season. With all that in mind, I'll return to the question I have raised multiple times: why do guys on a football field throw punches at the heads/faces of guys wearing hard plastic helmets with face-masks?
  21. Lake Mary Armwood Rockledge Cypress Creek Orlando University Spruce Creek Tarpon Springs Gadsden County Northside Christian Naples Community
  22. Truer words were never spoken! (Yeah, I know what you meant . . . and you're right).
  23. Josh, I have not commented on this subject yet, in large part because I simply don't know much about the Sunshine State Athletic Association. As best I can tell from the article you posted, however,the SSAA basically is set up so that every team in the SSAA gets to play in an "end-of-the-year" tournament, with a ranking system being used to 'group' teams together based on their performance over the course of the season. But yet the SSAA refers to this arrangement as their "playoffs." Candidly, the SSAA State Championship Bracket looks legit. There are teams in this bracket that likely could compete in their respective divisions within the FHSAA if they chose to do so. But the other brackets . . . not so much so. I think the focus of this thread has been on the 'other' teams in the other nine brackets. One of the two teams playing in the "SSAA Atlantic 1A Championship" Game - their term, not mine - will enter the game with an 0-8 record. The SSAA Cup Bracket features four teams with a combined record of 1-28. Yes, one win and 28 losses. One of these four teams will get to call themselves 'champions.' I have no problem with schools participating in an association other than the FHSAA. But when you release "playoff brackets" right before the FHSAA schools are about to head into post-season play (well, not all of the FHSAA schools, but only the ones who qualify for the playoffs), I think it's reasonable to expect a little criticism from the anti-participation trophy crowd. Perhaps the arrangement would be better received if the SSAA dropped the "championship" and "playoff" terms from all the brackets other than the State Championship Bracket. Just my two cents.
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