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  4. 2019 out of state games

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    Tampa Plant will be traveling to the nation's capital this fall to take on Gonzaga College High School on Sept. 27th.  According to MaxPreps, Gonzaga finished 23rd this past season in the MaxPreps Xcellent 25 and 35th in the MaxPreps National Ranking. 

    No word on whether Plant will accept an invitation to visit the White House if they manage to win the game.  B)

  5. Dillard Head coach resigned after just one year.

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    14 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:

    During a team sport season where you have practices, scouting, games, travel, the small tasks become tasks that are forgotten about. When do you go personnel shopping? When do you have time to do personnel laundry? If you have a very understanding significant other, you can MIGHT be able to make it through. But many times the strain on family for the lack of financial benefit isn't worth it.

    I think most coaches do their personnel shopping during the off-season and at summer 7 on 7 tournaments, based primarily on what players on their team just graduated and what their primary position needs are.  

    And the fact that there are coaches out there that are doing the laundry for their whole staff sure doesn't leave the coaches much time to do their 'personal shopping' or 'personal laundry.'   :D   

    (Apologies in advance, gatorman, but I just couldn't pass up the chance to play grammar police). 

  7. Unsigned kids...I don’t know why

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    I want to be careful here, because I don''t know anything about "Hester and Jackson" other than what I've read on this board and the linked film that I've watched.   I don't know who their coaches are or what their coaches have or have not done.   I do know there are some schools and coaches that place a premium on the academic side of the NCAA eligibility process.  Other schools and coaches don't.  Personally, I think one of the greatest services that a high school football program/coach can provide to an athletically-talented kid is to start working with him in the 9th or 10th grade to explain the eligibility process and then track the performance and status of the kids as they work their way through high school.  It is an absolute waste for a kid to have P5 talent, but not be able to get offers because of bad grades and/or inability to satisfy the minimum standards necessary to become an NCAA student-athlete. 

  8. Anyone know anything about MTI Prep (Deerfield Beach)?

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    I don't know anything about MTI other than what I have just read on this board.  However, as I'm sure most of you know, prep schools are very common up in the northeast.  The biggest obstacle facing a newly-founded prep school in the south would be scheduling --- because there just aren't very many of them around.  

    There's a lot to be said for prep schools for certain kids . . .  kids that need to improve their grades, kids that are young/relatively small for their high school graduating class, etc.  Stick a "young" 17 year old high school senior in a prep school and give him another year to develop could make all the difference in terms of earning a college scholarship. 

  9. Willie must go...

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    22 minutes ago, peezy28 said:

    You guys took my statement too literal guess I should have been more clear and said for a large part of his career.  So those 3 in the 60s... yeah a little suspect to me.

    Also... What do you think... If the Ole bear didnt go get his butts kicked by USC would he have even started looking at Black players?  Maybe he scheduled that game on purpose knowing what would happen to get the Bama racist Brass in line to allow him to do it because times were changing.  Either that or it was a dang cant beat better join em type thing.

    There are many who believe that this is exactly why Bear Bryant scheduled USC -- so that the 'Bama fans would see that they needed to join the revolution and start recruiting black athletes immediately.  In fact, there may even be a '30 for 30' on this subject (or was it a Showtime documentary??   . . . I can't remember).  Either way, in typical Bear Bryant fashion, it wasn't just a matter of "joining" them, it was a matter of adapting and doing it better than anyone else. 

  12. Willie must go...

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    13 minutes ago, peezy28 said:

    Plus Bear did not have to recruit or play against black athletes... Just sayin LOL

    In the early part of your career, you're right, Peezy.  But, things changed in the early '70's after Bama got its butt kicked by USC and Sam Cunningham.  Here's a wikipedia except that explains it better than I can:

    "For years, Bryant was accused of racism[16] for refusing to recruit black players, but he merely said that the prevailing social climate and the overwhelming presence of noted segregationist George C. Wallace, first as governor and then as a presidential candidate, did not let him do this. He finally was able to convince the administration to allow him to do so after scheduling the Tide's 1970 season opener against a strong University of Southern California team led by black fullback Sam Cunningham. Cunningham rushed for 150 yards and three touchdowns in a 42–21 victory against the overmatched Tide. After that season, Bryant was able to recruit Wilbur Jackson as Alabama's first black scholarship player, and junior-college transfer John Mitchell became the first black man to play for Alabama. By 1973, one-third of the team's starters were black, and Mitchell became the Tide's first black coach that season.[17][18][19][20]

    In 1971, Bryant began engineering a comeback. This included abandoning Alabama's old power offense for the relatively new wishbone formation. (Darrell Royal, the Texas football coach whose assistant Emory Bellard virtually invented the wishbone, taught Bryant its basics, but Bryant developed successful variations of the wishbone that even Royal had never used.)[citation needed] The change helped make the remainder of the decade a successful one for the Crimson Tide. That season, Alabama went undefeated and earned a #2 ranking, but lost to #1 Nebraska, 38–6 in the Orange Bowl. The team would go on to split national championships in 1973 (Notre Dame defeated Alabama 24-23 in the Sugar Bowl, and the UPI thereafter stopped giving national championships until after all the games for the season had been played – including bowl games) and 1978 (despite losing a regular season matchup against national co-champion USC) and win it outright in 1979 after a 24-9 Sugar Bowl victory over Arkansas.

    Bryant coached at Alabama for 25 years, winning six national titles (1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, and 1979) and thirteen SEC championships. Bryant's win over in-state rival Auburn University, coached by former Bryant assistant Pat Dye on November 28, 1981 was Bryant's 315th as a head coach, which was the most of any head coach at that time. His all-time record as a coach was 323-85-17."

  13. Willie must go...

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    1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    For a long time, Tallahassee had a lot to offer.  Bowden was a master of "recruiting" the parents  and many sent their kids to FSU believing they would be treated like family..maybe a family some kids grew up lacking.  Bowden portrayed a fatherly image that many mothers liked for their sons.  Back in the day, many would say Tallahassee had a feel of "Southern values," whereas the Canes promoted the bad boy image in the 80's and Miami was full of drug dealers..sin city. 

     There was a dichotomy that gave the Noles leverage in recruiting certain kids.  Those dynamics have changed. And parents have changed, too..big time.  I think many parents today will send their kids wherever they think they have the best chance of advancing, regardless of other factors.     

    So, you think Cross would have ended up signing with FSU after all (instead of flipping to Maryland) if Bowden had still been there?  B)

  16. Willie must go...

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    1 hour ago, 181pl said:

    BD has national championships.

    True, but it took Billy nine seasons (and a frustrating run of about five years in the early 2000's of losing to lower-seeded teams in the NCAA tournament) before he won his first National Championship. 

    For me, the jury's still out on White.  The injury bug (especially to the big men) has hit the Gators hard the last few years.  I'm inclined to give White another couple of years to sink or swim.  

  20. Thoughts about HS Bowl Games

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    A couple of thoughts:

    Unless you really cut back on the number of playoff teams, you're going to continue to have a fair share of first-round (and even second-round) blowouts.  Especially now with the state's current transfer policy -- the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  A reflection of our society.  A handful of teams will continue to dominate each class and these teams will continue to be on the winning side of these first-round playoff game blowouts. 

    That said, blowouts are not the worst thing in the world.  I'm guessing most players and coaches (and even fans) would tell you that they'd rather make the playoffs and get blown out in the first round than not make the playoffs at all.  And for the top-seeded teams, a blowout first-round game keeps them in rhythm and, assuming no major injuries, is probably better than a bye.  And for those kids who aren't starters, first-round blowouts give them a chance to get some meaningful playing time in a playoff game. 

    Nevertheless, I like the idea of a bowl game or two for the teams whose bubbles get burst by the RPI and who fall just outside the top 8 in their region . . . at least until the stud players from these teams start deciding to sit out the bowl game for fear of injury and messing up their chances to get drafted, er, snag a last minute scholarship.  One other thing to keep in mind:  unlike college, a good number of football players, especially at smaller schools, roll right into high school basketball season as soon as the whistle blows in their last football game.  A bowl game played one or two weeks after their last regular season game would further delay that transition. 

    Just my two cents.

  23. RPI for football in FHSAA is official

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    For teams that have to forfeit games (say, for example, for using an ineligible player for the first three games of the season), what record will be used for that team -- their on-the-field record or their record after the forfeits have been factored in?   I doubt there are too many people who will argue that teams who break the rules shouldn't be punished, but what about the teams who play against them (or who play against the teams who play against them)?   Say the rule-breaking team doesn't get caught until the end of season and go from being 9 - 1 to 0 - 10 . . . that could really affect the RPI of a team that played them.   And what about the teams that got beat by the rule-breaking team?  Would they now pick up a win instead?  I can just see this having a domino effect and changing the RPI's of a bunch of other teams. 

  24. 2019 unofficial schedules

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    It's hard for me to judge the Georgia teams without knowing more.  Apparently, Bainbridge won the state championship in their classification this past year, right?  From my experience, and with a handful of exceptions, it's tough for high school teams to defend their titles -- especially public schools.  I don't know whether Bainbridge is public or private, but I'd be willing to bet they won their state title this past year on the shoulder pads of some talented seniors  . . . who won't be playing high school football next fall when they play NMB. 

    This is a kickoff classic/pre-season type of game, right?  From what I've noticed, coaches that have a particularly green team (i.e., not that many starters returning, and certainly not many starters at key skill positions) often prefer to play an 'easy' team so that they can get the feet underneath them before the regular season starts.  What better way to do that than to find an out-of-state team that perhaps has a little history, but who is now on the down side of the cycle?  Other coaches want to play the best team they can find, especially if they have a number of starters returning.  But, even if they don't have a full squad coming back, these coaches want to play the best team available in hopes of finding what their strengths and weaknesses are -- even at the risk of getting beat (but hopefully not a demoralizing loss). 

    I can understand both philosophies.  I tend to think that playing the hard team right out of the gates better prepares both teams for the regular season, but that's just me . . . and I'm not from Georgia.  ;)

  25. west orange coach?

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    4 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    What happened exactly?

    It would appear that certain Forum Rules are being enforced . . . which is fine.  Just google "west orange high school football coach" and you'll see rather quickly what all the fuss is about. 

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