Perspective

I'm so wrapped up in the playoffs I almost forgot about this game.  I dont really like these national all-star teams so I hope they both lose somehow.  

Omg lol hahahaha lol. Hopefully the only earthquake we have is our fans going crazy each time we get into the end zone & the only power outage is putting the lights out on elys season once & for all. 

I'll save my prediction for later . . . but it most likely will involve power outages and earthquakes this time. 

What a great game. 
I saw an endzone video of the 2-point conversion in OT that gave Oviedo the win.   I don't think it could have been any closer.   When I first saw it, it looked like the RB came up inches short.   But then I saw a slow-mo version where it appeared the RB may have just broken the plane before landing short of the goal.  Without a goal line camera/view, it's hard to tell.   It's really important to have the right perspective.  
Too bad someone had to lose that game.  But, it brings me to my question (I eventually get there):
@Jambun82, when I watched the video, there was an official (line judge?) right on the goal line.   The play came towards him and did NOT involve a big pile up.  It was basically the RB against a LB or DB, with a second defender coming in to help.  From the video I saw, there was nothing in the way of the official that obscured his line of sight.  In other words, he appeared to be in perfect position and had a clear sight line as to whether the ball broke the plane or not.   As I believe he's supposed to, he immediately closed the gap and ran in to where the play ended.  But instead of giving an immediate signal (either raising his hands to signify a TD or waiving his hands over his head and putting his foot down to signify that the offensive player was stopped short of the goal line), he basically stood there for what seemed like an eternity before he finally signaled a score.  Why?   Under the circumstances that I laid out, what would cause the line judge to wait so long before signaling?   Who or what would or could he be waiting on?  I'll keep the conspiracy theories to myself for now.
Thanks in advance. 

Now there's perspective for you!

I suspect their schedule was finalized before their recruiting class was.  

I suspect their schedule was finalized before their recruiting class was.  

I suspect their schedule was finalized before their recruiting class was.  

Ray, for what it's worth, that's the way I took it as well (i.e., the way you explained it).  Just a faster way to say, "Wow, that's really sad that all of those things happened and were said." 

I suspect their schedule was finalized before their recruiting class was.  

Ray, your post under the "TBT Shouldn't Have to Travel" topic got me thinking . . . how did the seeds do.  Here's what I've got so far, along with a few editorial comments:
4M:
R1:  6 of the 8 games will be played on Monday.  Apopka beat Boone on Saturday and now gets a couple extra days of rest and prep time.  And coaches can actually attend the Winter Park/Lake Brantley game Monday night to do their scouting in person. 
*** General observation:  I understand that a November hurricane is a rare occurrence and that player safety is of the utmost importance.  I also understand that certain parts of our state can be considered part of the Bible Belt.  That said, if games couldn't be played on Friday (because of field conditions or any other reasons), they should have been played Saturday (assuming the factors preventing play on Friday were resolved).  If not Saturday, the FHSAA should have given permission for the games to be played on Sunday.  I have absolutely no dogs in this fight, but to me it is patently unfair for one team to play on Friday night and then face an opponent that has played on the Monday of game week.   Think about it:  kids play Monday night.  Tuesday is basically a recovery day/film day.  Practice Wednesday.   And the Thursday before the Friday night game is essentially a walk-through practice.   So, a team playing Monday has to install their offensive game plan and the defense basically sees the red team O run their opponent's offense/plays one day - Wednesday. 
(Side note:  I can't imagine a team having a such a short time to try to prepare for Apopka back when they were running their single wing offense . . . but I digress).  While it might be OK  to ask a team to play Monday and then turn around and play again on Friday night in the regular season, it's just not right for the playoffs.  
OK, I'll get off my soapbox and get back to the seedings.
R2 - Top four seeds all won. 
R3 - all 8 games will be played Monday night, with winners playing again on Friday.  At least all 8 teams are in the same boat in this region. 
R4 - Top four seeds all won. 
3M:
R1 - 1 and 2 seed both won.  5 seed (Plant) beat 4 seed (Fletcher).  3 seed (Oviedo) plays 6 seed (Wharton) on Monday.   The winner has to turn around and play the 1 seed (Jones) four days later (see discussion above). 
R2 - Top four seeds all won.
R3 - 1 seed (STA) and 2 seed (Dillard) both won.  The 4/5 game and the 3/6 game both will be played on Monday, with the winners playing STA and Dillard, respectively, four days later.  Broken record time - that just ain't right. 
R4 - Top three seeds won and 5 beat 4 (Dr. Krop beat Belen Jesuit 23-17).
2M:
R1 - Chaos!!  If this were the NCAA Basketball tournament, this would be the bracket-buster region.  Much to ColumbiaFan's chagrin, 8 seed Riverside beat 1 seed Andrew Jackson 20-13; 5 seed (Raines) beat 4 seed (Ed White); and 7 seed beat 2 seed in the Bishop Bowl (Moore over Kinney).  The only top 4 seed to survive was 3 seed Bolles. 
R2 - Top four seeds all won.
R3 - The top of the bracket plays Monday; bottom of the bracket played Friday night and 2 and 3 seeds both won.  Friday night winners and Monday night winners will be on equal footing when it comes to playing the regional semifinal games.
R4 - Top four seeds all won (setting up a Central/Northwestern game this Friday night). 
1M : Opening round games will be played this Thursday and Friday. 
1R : Top 2 seeds got byes.   3 seeds all won handily.  5 seed beat the 4 seed in three of the four regions.   Only 4 seed to advance, much to Jesse's delight, was Madison County. 
4S:
R1 - 1, 3 and 4 seeds won.  7 seed (Crestview) upset 2 seed (Niceville).  This region featured one of the best games with 3 seed Buchholz beating Pace 35-34 with a last minute TD and a successful 2-point conversion. 
R2 - Top 2 seeds won; 5 beat 4 and 6 beat 3.
R3 - Top 2 seeds won, as did 4.  6 seed (Treasure Coast) beat 3 seed (Martin Co.) (see other thread). 
R4 - Ray, I think this is the region you were referring to.  5 beat 4; 7 beat 2; and 6 beat 3.  The only one of the top four seeds to win was Venice, who slipped by Archie, Jughead, Reggie and the rest of the Riverdale team 87 - 20.  (See separate thread for the discussion of this game). 
3S:
R1 - Top three seeds won and 5 beat 4 42-35.
R2 - 1, 3 and 4 won; 7 (Lecanto) beat 2 (Pasco) 45-14.
R3 - 1, 2 and 3 won.  4/5 game is Monday night, with the winner getting the privilege of playing top seed Rockledge four days later. 
R4 - Top four seeds all won.
2S:
R1 - Top four seeds all won.
R2 - 1, 2 and 3 won, but 5 beat 4 27-14.
R3 - Top four seeds all won.
R4 - Top two seeds both won, but 5 beat 4 in a close one and 6 beat 3 in a game that wasn't close. 
1S:   Opening round games will be played this  Friday. 
 
All I've got for now. 
 
 

They've got a tough game coming up that could very well end their season.  Plant plays the Region's number 1 seed, East Lake, on the road.  A rematch of the 2011 Regional finals - also played at East Lake - that Plant won 28-21 in OT on their way to the State 8A Championship. 
Nevertheless, it was good to see them get a playoff win. 

Ray, for what it's worth, that's the way I took it as well (i.e., the way you explained it).  Just a faster way to say, "Wow, that's really sad that all of those things happened and were said." 

I believe Plant secures another win on the way to the Regional finals. Olympia gave East Lake some trouble. Olympia is solid, but not deep playoff capable.
So, EL while I am sure they are decent, is beatable. 

Ray, for what it's worth, that's the way I took it as well (i.e., the way you explained it).  Just a faster way to say, "Wow, that's really sad that all of those things happened and were said." 

They've got a tough game coming up that could very well end their season.  Plant plays the Region's number 1 seed, East Lake, on the road.  A rematch of the 2011 Regional finals - also played at East Lake - that Plant won 28-21 in OT on their way to the State 8A Championship. 
Nevertheless, it was good to see them get a playoff win. 

Sir, my sad face wasn't a reflection of you or your values rather disappointment in the play, conduct, sportsmanship and discipline of the Venice football team during this particular game.   Please don't read more into than that.  

. . .  except the bastardized MaxPreps system used in Florida isn't very accurate. 

. . .  except the bastardized MaxPreps system used in Florida isn't very accurate. 

. . .  except the bastardized MaxPreps system used in Florida isn't very accurate. 

Good summary.    I caught the last 5-10 minutes of the game.  It was wild.  
I agree that Sumner’s success is a bit of a surprise, although if memory serves me correctly, they came out of the gates and won several games their first year.  I spoke briefly with their principal (who was the principal at Plant several years ago).   He mentioned the student population at Sumner is around 3,800 . . . or almost double Plant’s.   That certainly helps.  

Venice scored on the third play of the game with a fumble returned by Damon Wilson, and it was all downhill from there. They scored over, and over, and over again, and never took out their starters until the waning minutes of the fourth quarter. There was a moment with about 30 seconds to go before halftime where Venice was up 56-10, and they tried a trick play on a double-fake reverse to Alvin Johnson that went 65 yards for a touchdown. They went for 2  4 times and got it when they were up big. Elliot Washington returned 3 kickoffs for touchdowns, two in the second half. Brutal.
What angered me was Venice constantly going for 2. They were winning by 70 points and still tried to run it up. No class from the coaching staff. The worst part, though, was the end of the game. Coach Hepler and Coach Peacock refused to shake hands and instead argued at the 50 yard-line. Coach Hepler called Peacock a "cocky jackass" and told him that he was a horrible role model for his kids and staff, and that he should be ashamed of himself for what happened. Peacock told him that Venice had no back-up kicking team and that they had no choice but to go for 2 every time.  Hepler than told him that he would never show such disdain for the game of football that Coach Peacock did. Some kids from both sides got into it and there was a short scuffle at about the 40 near the far-left goal post that the refs broke up. Foul language was abundant, and I heard some racial slurs being used on the field directed toward those of African-American and Hispanic descent. I heard, "You ****** are too weak to play football with us!" And Sp*** can't read the English playbook!  Absolutely disgraceful day for the game of American football. The racial words alone warrant a fine against the athletic department. Hopefully, the young men on the field weren't too affected by this and are able to move on. Not good that adults they look up to have to conduct themselves this way. We will move on and be better from this.

TBT won 34-3.  
So, I don’t think I was wrong.  

VIF, can you please give us some context on this game?  How many of those points were scored in the second half (running clock, right?)?   Did the Venice coach leave the starters in the whole game?   Is there some bad blood between these two teams that most of us would not be aware of that might help explain the final score?
At this point, I would not be in favor of a fine. Football karma will take care of this in due time. 

Happy Coach Beek took me up on my offer and both he and his son joined us for the game last night.  Thanks Coach for the company and sharing some insights on your Poinciana team.   Not one of our better outings but a win nonetheless and some crazy officiating throughout especially for a playoff game.  Please JamBun, don't ask for details.