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Update: North Port canceled on us today. We had waited on them to reschedule and had everything worked out to play Monday 24th. Unfortunately they could not get referees.
So, we are looking for an 11th hour game for next Monday. We have a couple of teams that are checking.
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On 10/10/2022 at 7:29 AM, nolebull813 said:
You guys should play Beachside in a bowl game
Think we have the bowl game set.... ST. Cloud!
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4 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:
Please god no. Games are taking too long as it is.
I want better calls sometimes, but I am willing to sacrifice non-perfection for a little bit of fluidity and continuity in the game. The only time that there should be replay is to figure out if they miscounted the downs or a clock issue or a fight. Other than that, play ball!If a referee makes a mistake, you shouldn't have left the game in the hands of the referees to begin with.
Not all teams are so good that they arent a single play away from winning or loosing a game. Close games and poor calls that can decide the game one way or the other will be the issue. I do agree excessive use of replays would ruin the flow of the game. But getting a call wrong and costing a team a game is also not excessive! Having said that we all know replays wont be a part of high school weekly play for many years to come if ever!
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41 minutes ago, KeemD321 said:
Then it's a completion. I was just saying thats the only way the ref can claim it to not be one. I honestly feel like the state should consider doing instant replay for certain types of calls/plays. Especially since now most teams have the sideline systems to watch plays back now.
unfortunately we do not have a sideline system. We used to have hudl sideline but it costs too much for us. Mouthpieces and knee pads are more important! LOL
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the other one is. Team A is kicking to team B. Team A runs toward the football, does not kick, but proceeded 5 yards past the ball. so no kick was made. no penalty called. Is this not an offsides?
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ok, ill join this with 2 plays! this was called incomplete! no bobble. no movement afterwards. Ref in perfect position!
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deleted. wrong thread
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12 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
You’ve reached out to someone to play a bowl game week 13?
yes. No reply yet.They are trying to determine if bowl eligible, and not in district play, if they would want to continue their season. This team on any other year would jump to play us. Fhsaa is apparently going to let this happen this year. Again per my AD.
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6 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
If you look at the national rankings, Palm Harbor University over St Pete High is the biggest upset of the year so far.
national number 6,026 over national number 3,452
LB is ranked 999 and Evans is 3,418
where can you find a comprehensive national list. Max preps used to post it but it is not there anymore. At least for me.
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Per my AD. FHSAA is allowing hurricane and storm (rain and lightning issues form earlier this season) play after week 11 to make up games on a case by case basis. Our game this Friday vs North Port is being moved to week 12. FHSAA said if we still win enough to play a bowl game we will still be allowed to in week 13. The only problem I see is finding a team that is comparable that will play week 13. We have reached out to someone. Waiting on a reply.
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I will continuously edit this so please check back
Titusville last year 0-10 this year 4-2
Out-of-Door Academy last year 0-5 this year 6-0
Horizon last year 2-8 today 6-0
Toho last year 2-8 today 5-1
Cocoa Beach last year 1-9 today 4-1 (0-9 the year before)
Poinciana last year 1-9 today 4-2
May not be so amazing as a no win team, but a great turn of events for these programs so far
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6 minutes ago, Nulli Secundus said:
Understood and no need. Again, having been around long enough to know that Poinciana was everyone's guaranteed win and to see them dropping W's now really feels good to see, even at the expense of a still wet behind the ear Polk County school. Between Lake Wales, Auburndale and Ridge, Davenport has some ass whoopins coming. I wonder is the social media blitz will continue when it's time to face those squads, lol.
The buzz was all about 4 player transfers and 2 former coaches who are now at Davenport. Arguably our #1 player from last season was one of those who transferred. Add into the fact we lost to them last year. Close proximity etc.... (neither of those coaches were the ones talking)
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9 minutes ago, Nulli Secundus said:
What is the potential that the Eagles will finish .600 or better with the games remaining?
I am not one for chest beating and wild predictions. But if we continue to play at the level we are and our opponents play at the level they are currently we have a great chance of winning out. We take no games lightly. Just 1 game at a time. But I feel Davenport was the best team we will face for the rest of the year. No disrespect intended for our opponents.
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How about them Broncos! Poinciana has been disrespected for a long time. There was a lot of trash talking on social media and complete lack of respect from their players and coaches. One of their coaches put it out there that they were going to drop 50 on us! This lit a fire in our kids that couldnt be put out!
We went on defense first they lost 13 yards. Then our offense went to work, dropped a 20-0 first half. Came out in the second half went up 26-0 off a 60 yard pic 6. They scored 26-7 then we immediately answered it 32-7. their other 2 touchdowns came in the last 4 minutes of the game.
We know who we are. But could this be the new beginning of things at Poinciana? 4-2 so far!
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Osceola county schools will not be in Monday, therefor no Osceola county schools can play on Monday
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We are scheduled to play Northport in a couple of weeks. We have already reached out to them and offered anything we can to help them return to normal. Even If this involves moving the game to our place or cancelling it all together. What ever scenario works best for them. Way more important things than football at this moment.
Their ad responded: things are really bad there now. they are hoping that FHSAA will allow the extension of the season and to try to get their games in later after they get things somewhat back to normal
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LBV has begun to turn the corner on winning. Last year they went 18 points for and 481 against. 1/2 way through this year they are 71 for and 130 against. They barely lost to Windermere. They have lost by 1 score 3 times this year. Hopefully their first win wont be us! But Colonial looks like a possibility.
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4 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
They probably move when others move. Meaning if 10 teams drop under them, then it looks like they went up 10 spots. I’m just guessing here though
I get that. But having never played a game why should that team be ranked above any team who has played. Even the worst team in the state has played a game and has established something. So how can a team who has never played be given a ranking that is about 150 places above the bottom?
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I do have a question... How does Roar Prep who has never played a game get ranked 423. What is the basis?
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12 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Just because kids have a dream of making it to college football should not sway the decision whether a program needs to change course. Truth is 99.9 percent of the kids who play for these programs don’t play college football so the impact is practically non existent. There are kids who have dreams of going to college but get D’s and F’s. Everything isn’t for everybody.
Going to 8 man isn’t going to sway anyone because like I said the kids playing for these teams don’t go on to play college football.
Speaking from my perspective. The main attraction that my football program has is the fact we get kids recruited. In the 4 years I have been the head coach here. Every kid who wanted to play at the next level was offered something from a school. that encompasses 50% of our seniors. We all know that a lot of kids will hang up their cleats upon graduation. Those are not the kids who transfer. We work tirelessly with our athletes maintaining grades. Holding study halls and getting extra help for the players who are struggling academically. If they cannot maintain their grades they become ineligible for high school as a underclassmen and wont graduate as a senior. Being as most all of our kids are not D1, grades impact their recruitability. Most of the money they get is for academics. Not football.
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6 minutes ago, Perspective said:
Beek, you make some very good points and I greatly appreciate your 'perspective.'
If I understand you correctly, you believe that once a program goes to 8-man, there's no chance they'll ever make it back to 11-man because anyone who's serious about playing the sport, simply won't come there to play. I wonder if there are any examples of 8-man programs that have had success, made the switch to 11-man, and then had success in 11-man?
Another "I wonder" question: are there any examples of kids who play 8-man being recruited/offered scholarships?
Just curious.
I believe that once a large public high school goes to 8 man it will be the death of their program. A small private school or possibly a very small public school may make that model work for them. Locally there is a 8 man school who lost their best receiver and qb to 2 different public 11 man programs. both of these kids are difference makers in their respective programs. In all honesty a bad 11 man program will most likely be a bad 8 man program too. Its not just missing 3 players on the field would make the difference. Keeping the school size perspective the same. A bad 8A public school going 8 man, may have success versus a small public school fielding a 8 man team most likely because its all they have. But what are you succeeding in? Would make more sense for their being a lower tier regional championship as suggested for those teams who cant make it in the state series. Let the proper 8 man programs play 8 man programs and have a balanced series for them.
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45 minutes ago, Perspective said:
Somewhat rhetorical question for the crowd: when we hear the phrase "School Choice," we've come to learn that means "the student gets to choose what school they want to go to." Well, with respect to the debate in this thread, why can't "school choice" mean that a school gets to choose whether they want to play 8-man, 11-man or no football at all? Or why can't a school choose whether they want to compete for a state championship or just play the equivalent of intramural sports against like-minded schools?
One poster suggested that kids would choose to leave schools that play 8-man instead of 11-man. My guess is those same kids already are leaving schools that play 11-man, but play it very badly, for schools that play 11-man, but play it better. At least, that's what the kids who prioritize their high school football experience are doing.
I need to give this topic some more thought . . .
Kids dont see division 1 or for that matter any college football on Saturday playing 8 man football. They all have dreams of playing college football. If your school only offered 8 man football it would predetermine that school to be a low level program who cannot get players recruited. As far as kids leaving. That is up to the program to fix itself and offer a product that will attract players and keep those who are on campus. Many schools of thought are keep replacing the coach until someone comes in and wins and magically the ship will be righted and the kids will stay and all will be right in the world. Those coaches seldom if never come. A prospective coach for a perennial loosing school is usually a brand new head coach looking to establish himself, a head coach on rebound or looking to move up the ladder who thinks he can come in and change the culture and fix everything. (those guys get fed up after seeing that changing the culture isnt going to happen. They dont want to hurt their employability further so the move on before their career damage is done). Or you get the washed out coach who is ending their career and will take the paycheck until the school fires them and moves on to the next guy. Please understand these are the stereotypes, not saying anything personally about anyone.
So how do you turn around a program like these ones you mention? Going to 8 man football in my opinion is not the answer. 8 man football should be reserved for very low enrollment schools. I couldnt see any florida public schools fitting that model. i can tell you what we are doing here. But only time will tell if this is successful.
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Actually we are trying currently to play Hardee on October 31'st. We are waiting on their AD to let the head coach know if that can happen. Hardee needs games to become playoff eligible, And we need a game to complete our season. So we will see if that can happen. I have spent most of the last 2 days trying to find a replacement for North Port.