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  1. On 10/20/2022 at 10:06 PM, Beek said:

     

    Actually we are trying currently to play Hardee on October 31'st. We are waiting on their AD to let the head coach know if that can happen. Hardee needs games to become playoff eligible, And we need a game to complete our season. So we will see if that can happen. I have spent most of the last 2 days trying to find a replacement for North Port. 

    I was told the game for 10/31 is a go!

  2. 4 hours ago, BigBoyBall said:

    Pahokee losing to CN is not a shocker. CN has the best recruited team in PBC and a proven coached in with Jack Daniels. II believed they would be PK hardest game on the schedule next to Atlantic. Not playing KOC and opening up with CN really hurt them but PK has the weapons and coaches to turn it around. Now, GC losing at home to Seminole Ridge is the Only Real Shocker!!! SR lost to Martin County 49-0 in their KOC last week! According to family there, GC have some horrible assistant coaches but I hope they turn it around before Muck Bowl.. They have time! 

    On the other hand, all the experience/starters left PB Lakes (21 transferred out) for Dwyer, Gardens, Cardinal Newman, and Benjamin because Coach AL was let go. I agree with everyone here that they should have just played a JV schedule but I don't think the alumni and parents would have supported that! Now they have 71pts scorer Lincoln this week and a Angry Pahokee team the following week! I hope the players and parents just stick it out for this year and get better for the future! Anyways, PBL is like Kansas a basketball school!

    Is Martin County that good? I saw where they beat Bartow 35-7

  3. On 7/18/2022 at 8:29 AM, nolebull813 said:

    One of these teams will make a State Semi Finals this year? Say it ain’t so. What are we doing here?

    Region 4

    District 2S-13
    Lake Alfred Discovery
    Frostproof
    Mulberry
    Lakeland Tenoroc

    District 2S-14
    Avon Park
    Clewiston
    Wauchula Hardee
    Lake Placid

    District 2S-15
    Bradenton Bayshore
    Sarasota Booker
    Arcadia DeSoto County
    Englewood Lemon Bay

    District 2S-16
    Fort Myers Bishop Verot
    Estero
    Fort Myers Gateway
    Key West

     

    Maybe all 16 should forfeit the season since we none can compete 

  4. Why are we making this so hard? For the last few years the smaller classes haven't had districts and used RPI to determine playoffs. So either (A) use that system in all classes, or (B) keep districts but consolidated into 3 districts per region so as to have bigger districts. Which this has been done before.

  5. 3 hours ago, PinellasFB said:

    <insert "one does not simply walk into Mordor" meme here> It's not exactly easy to simply combine small districts to make 4-team+ districts.  You would probably create 1-3 hr bus rides for a lot of kids for their district games.  Thats just not a tenable solution for most schools.

     

    3 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Late 90s had St Augustine, Lincoln and Columbia (among others) in same district and it was fine then

     

     

    What changed?

    Maybe but something has to give.  Hardee was one time in a district with Cocoa Beach so long trips for district play isn't unprecedented. Any district with Key West means a long bus ride.

  6. 15 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    If teams didn't go independent so easily we wouldn't have districts less than 4 

     

    I drew up a system that used the same idea the current metro/suburban did and I didn't have any districts with less than 4

    Combine the districts, 3 districts per region then.

  7. 13 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    I have felt that as of late districts are basically just methods for helping teams fill schedules 

     

    A lot of these small districts are the result of teams running independent because they aren't able to game the system 

     

    If they remove districts they better reduce the number of required games because it's gonna be tough for certain teams to fill 10 game schedules as teams in their area refuse to play them 

    My past experience was just the opposite. One time we got put in a 4 team district while the surrounding districts had 5 teams and it became really hard to find a game because of it. So it works both ways. The way I see it, anything less than 4 teams isn't a district. 

  8. 1 minute ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

    I agree with most of your post, but not sure I agree with the complete removal of districts. They should be comprised of no fewer than 4 teams with the winner making it to the playoffs and the runner-ups having an outside chance based on strength of schedule and season performance. 

    Hear me out, playing and competing for a district champ as a means of qualifying for the playoffs is something I favor. That said, anything fewer than 4 teams in a district isn't worth having. IMHO 5 to 7 teams is ideal.  Back when I was in high school we had 8 teams in our district on only the district champ got to move on. With this new format I think we should get rid of them all together. If not, perhaps consolidate so there are 3 districts per region, which has been done before but some complained about travel. 

  9. 3 team districts are a joke and now we got some 2 team districts thanks to yesterday.  So you go 1-9 and qualified for playoffs? That's dumb. For the last few years the smaller classes didn't have districts so we know kinda how that can work in all classes. Let's get rid districts, play whoever you want or form a conference to have a title to shoot for. Determine playoffs by RPI, maxpreps ranking or whatever. May say you have to play at least half your schedule against teams in your own class or higher? IDK.  What's y'all thoughts?

  10. Aside from Desoto, Hardee has been playing Fort Meade since the 1920s with only a couple of interruptions, sometimes as kickoff classic games.  Sebring has been on the schedule since the 70s and Avon Park off and on since the 40s. As an alumni, I'd like to see Palmetto back on the schedule.

  11. 4 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

    Shouldn't North Port and Island Coast also be included in this new classification?

    North Port and Island Coast will be in 3A Suburban. Some other area schools in that same class include Braden River, Charlotte, Port Charlotte, Cypress LakeSebring, Lake Wales, Bartow.

  12. So far I've identified 17 schools that will be in 2A suburban class in my part of the state. Most of these schools are on par with each other. Will be interesting if the districts make this the same region.  Those 17 are:

    Lakeland Christian, Tenoroc, Discovery, Mulberry, Frostproof, Fort Meade, Avon Park, Lake Placid, Hardee, Desoto, Bradenton Bayshore, Sarasota Booker, Lemon Bay, Bishop Verot, Clewiston, LaBelle, Estero.

  13. 13 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

    Perspective, the article on this forum from Joshua does show how some of the board members voted.  So it would be a real convoluted Grisham novel to find evil intent from the Lee County Board Member, Ms. Patricca as she was a NO vote.  Meanwhile, Ralph Arza former coach, educator and state legislature out of Miami was one of the YES votes.  Too complicated a conspiracy for me to understand the ending.B)

    The conspiracy is you got board members voting who don't know, understand or care what they vote on. Just vote yes on who made a good presentation. 

  14. 19 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

    Agree with you, but how would a school differentiate between a student transferring for academic reasons, or "team choice" if the student's grades are good?

     

    18 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

    If they don't move into the zoned district for that school they would sit for one year to play sports period, so no determination needed.  The fact that they would still choose School Choice with that rule tells you the academics are the reason which is why it should be allowed at any point.

    Ray's ideal is good. I was thinking first come first serve.

  15. 6 minutes ago, h8r said:

    im trying real hard to figure out why you care so much?  is your team in sub urban and your super butt hurt? or is your team in metro and you can figure out why you wont win a state title now?  if the answer is neither, you are really emotional about this.  

    suburban doesnt help the suburban teams as much as everyone/anyone thinks.  metro still will be majority of same teams winning anyways.  

    it hurts the middle of the road teams in both classes and lumps them with alot of the same districts they were already in

    or

    lumps them with teams they were not going to beat regardless of any class.

    the 5-5 teams will still be 5-5

    the 9-1 teams will still be 9-1

    get rid of school choice, which wont happen, is the only real solution to the recruiting issue we have in the state.  put back in the 365day mandatory sitout period for transfers. major major fines for coaches, suspensions, etc.

    may get something straight here.

    The real problem hasn't been fixed and I suspect in the near future there will be another change to "make the system better". 

  16. 2 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    They could have 4 classes and it would still be garbage if they used student enrollment as the end all be all for it 

     

    Bigger mess

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