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  1. ?'s Playoff seeding, district champs, home field advantage

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    9 minutes ago, PinellasFB said:

    There are some weird home/away results games due to this new format.  #1 seed Berkeley for 2M region 2 has to play at @8 seed Middleton since Middleton is a district winner while Berkeley was not.  Weird to see a #1 seed who is not a district winner.  Also, 8-2 Pace HS got left out of the playoffs because of too many non-top 8 ranked district winners in it's region.

    That right there, seems like a miscarriage of justice. I guess they were in the toughest district in the region and lost a critical district game. 

  5. Final Playoff Seedings/ 1st Round Matchups.

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    54 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:

    I often state that when making a playoff system you have two options:
    1) Get every team in the playoff that has a realistic shot of making the Final Four (even if that means some bad teams get in)
    2) Only let teams that have a very good chance of making the Final Four (even if that means some good teams stay home)

    I generally side with #1 in a youth playoff situation and move to #2 as we get to the pros.

    But I am curious, how many teams "good" teams were left out of the playoffs that if they played in their region would have a decent chance of making final four for their classification?

    Not many. I could make a case for Wekiva in 3M, as they played both Edgewater and especially Apopka tough, and also scored more than 40 against Jones. So, if they were in the playoff I think they would have a decent chance of making the Regional final and maybe the semis. They would have to be at their very best, have their 4 star defensive tackle motivated and healthy, and their coaching situation fully resolved. But if all of the above were in good order, on any given night, they could probably beat any team in the region. 

  6. Final Playoff Seedings/ 1st Round Matchups.

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    32 minutes ago, Jullian said:

    I like this team. Have strung up a boatload of shutouts too. There sched wasn’t strong but Beatdown the teams in front of em. 

    I will maintain an open mind on Heritage. Like you said they did not have a strong schedule. Because of that, I have a hard time figuring out in my head how good they really are. 

    The same applied to Lake Mary for those that had not seen them through about game 6 or 7. But being an Orlando area guy, and having seen them last year, knowing what they brought back, coupled with looking at their videos before going to see them live, I realized they were going to be an extremely tough out in the regular season and playoffs and had as good a chance as any to win a state title in 4M which does not have an Aquinas or Norland/Central/American Heritage or Chaminade or Cocoa standing in the way. 

  7. Congratulations Cocoa Tigers

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    21 minutes ago, Perspective said:

    You're spot on, Darter.   The question is this:  how did the FHSAA's proprietary formula know that Cocoa rightfully should have won that game against STA?  (Cue the sinister, mysterious music). B)

     

     

    14 minutes ago, Perspective said:

    For anyone who might be interested, this past Friday night Cocoa beat a now 5-5 Rockledge team 26-0, while Chaminade destroyed a now 2-8 (but still good enough to make the playoffs) Lakewood team 57-0.  Over the course of the season, Cocoa gave two teams their only loss and gave three teams (should have been four) one of those teams two losses.  Chaminade also gave two teams their only loss, but only one team their second loss.  On its face, Cocoa arguably played the tougher overall schedule, but as far as the computer is concerned, Cocoa still had one loss and Chaminade went undefeated. 

    And the above further bolster my argument that if we are to remain with the current system, interested parties need to be given the formula. There are just too many instances where things "look implausible." For all I know, they may follow the math implied by the algorithm they use to the tee. But based on what it's spitting out, I sure as heck want to see it. 

  8. Congratulations Cocoa Tigers

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    51 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

    Somebody help me out what did cocoa do and how did it involve chaminade ? 

    If they were not cheated at Brian Piccolo, they would be 10-0. Instead they lost by a point as St. Thomas got several seconds of free time to get into field goal range and win. St. Thomas also had uncalled penalties near the end of their final drive, I believe. 

    Not sure how Chaminade factors in this. 

  10. EXCLUSIVE: FHSAA Classification Task Force Committee proposes changes to classification system to help address competitive balance

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    35 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

    If this proposal was in effect this year, Miami Central would not qualify for the Open-32 Championship bracket, as they finished #33 in the final FHSAA Power Rankings.  Meanwhile, Williston (#16) would host Eau Gallie (#17) in the first round, with the right to play the winner of the Cocoa (#1)/Benjamin (#32) match-up.  Hmmm... what will the FHSAA come up with next? 

    Probably something even more ridiculous. We may end up looking back at the current situation as: "The good old days." 

  11. There is something fishy

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    Darter/Ray, here's my prediction:  in the not-too-distant future, one of the private schools (STA, CCC, Jesuit, Berkeley, Columbus, etc.) is going to end up on the outside of the top 8 in their region or end up having to play on the road against a team that's seeded higher than they are, but shouldn't be (in their minds).   At that point, the second-string guard's father, who works for a downtown law firm, will agree to take on the case at little or no expense to the school.  They'll start with a public records request, but likely will have to file a lawsuit when the FHSAA stonewalls them.  It won't do the school any good, as the playoffs will long since be over with by the time the matter gets resolved.  And to further complicate matters, the FHSAA may decide, at that point, to implement a new rankings system in an effort to make the matter moot. 

    Just a hunch. 

    Thanks for putting this into "Perspective." I think you are spot on with your forecast of what's likely to happen. 

  12. There is something fishy

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    30 minutes ago, Perspective said:

    Indeed!  Although in my experience, lawyers like to do things like this on behalf of people or entities called "clients."  And the lawyers really like to have clients that are willing to pay for their services.   :P

     

    24 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

    Touche!!  But they also do work Pro bono for a good cause, which it appears to be by the interest we all have on this subject.  :D

    Perhaps some sort of compromise could be struck where the billing could be based on a reduced rate. At least this way counsel would not have to eat the costs and time incurred. 

  16. There is something fishy

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    5 minutes ago, Perspective said:

    Thank you, Airek.   I've seen this explanation several times on messages boards, but I've never seen anything on FHSAA letterhead or coming from an FHSAA email address to substantiate this position.  

    I think some interested party should mount a legal challenge. At the very least, it may make them think twice about how they are currently doing things. 

  18. Final Playoff Seedings/ 1st Round Matchups.

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    4 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

    Treasure Coast should be thrilled as based on the final rankings by FHSAA they could have had either Martin County or Viera instead of us as they both were ranked higher in the final poll.  Not for us winning the district it would not be us, so should be an easy outing for them at home. :D

    I for one, would not want to face Osceola in a round 1, game. Give me an easy game before the grind starts!

  19. There is something fishy

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    1 minute ago, Dan in Daytona said:

    Maybe, but I'm most definitely deficient between the ears, my brother  :)

    You are smarter than you think. They are many highly educated people (I can vouch for this) that are deficient between the ears. An education gives one the trappings of being intelligent, but in reality, if you are born dumb, an education is not going to make you smart. It may make you more knowledgeable and it certainly opens up doors that would otherwise bel closed, but your overall intelligence is likely determined at conception barring exposure to something toxic like too much lead during the formative years. 

  20. There is something fishy

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    1 minute ago, Dan in Daytona said:

    ... and this is why you will always be my favorite Economist..... also the only one I will ever have the pleasure of knowing. 

    Dan, you and I will always be cool. In some sense we are brothers by a different mother. 

  21. There is something fishy

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    2 minutes ago, Dan in Daytona said:

    I haven't seen even keeled and unflappable DarterBlue this perplexed since, after several hair pulling hours, discovering a small transposition error for a Fortune 500 client.....oh man.  :) 

    Dan, such small errors at large clients were deemed: "de minimis" for evaluation purposes, and were rightfully disregarded. 

    An error in pairings or the exclusion of a worthy team altogether, is not insubstantial and warrants righteous indignation!

    My best bet is that in many instances they factored "transportation costs and travel time" into several of the first round pairings. But if they are allowed to get away with that, it's a short journey to doing actual "untoward" things if we don't have transparency. 

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