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  1. 4 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    It is Tommy Streeter, who helped Northwestern win to back-to-back 6A state titles against Lake Brantley(2006) and Boone(2007).  He caught a TD in each game, both thrown by Jacory Harris.  Streeter went on to play for the Hurricanes.  He passed on his senior year and entered the NFL draft, where he was drafted by the Ravens.  His NFL career never took off as hoped.

    Tommy was a very, very good possession receiver. The first time I saw him live against Miami Central at the old Orange Bowl, shortly before it was demolished I knew he had NFL talent then and there. Funnily enough, though, I though Aldarius Johnson had even more potential, but issues (off field??) caused his college career to stall. That MNW team had as much offensive talent as I have seen on any one high school team. 

  2. 1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    There were definitely Columbia teams that deserved to be ranked in the state poll


    05 wasn't one of them 

    Old School was right about East Ridge, though. In the fist part of the first decade of this century, they were very good. I remember them spanking Apopka at Apopka in either 2004 or 2005. That was the first and only time, I ever saw Apopka quit in a game. I realize that East Ridge was the better team, but to this day I am still pissed at and embarrassed by that Apopka team. To lose to a better team is fine. To quit is not acceptable. 

    Things changed rapidly when Lake Minneola opened up and siphoned off many of the better East Ridge kids. 

  3. 5 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Earliest I can remember going to games was I think 07 or 08 

    Old School was just being Old School! My first sporting event occurred at 8 years old. It was a cricket game that I found incredibly boring. Kind of funny as I ended up playing the sport in high school, mostly because  I could not make the soccer team. Go figure ...

  4. 28 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    In a controversial ending to the game, it is alleged that a very young fan of Columbia threw a dirty diaper at Tebow as he was leaving the stadium because Tebow would not give the youngster his autograph. :)

    That last paragraph is fake news. However, if it proves true, I doubt very much that our respected colleague was the guilty party!:)

  5. 49 minutes ago, Perspective said:

    Did anyone else read the Orlando Sentinel article on why the FHSAA wasn't going to livestream the meeting this Friday?   The explanation made no sense to me.   It was, basically, "well, that's just not the way we usually do our meetings."   Um, this is an emergency meeting, specially called to deal with the impact of a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic and that's the excuse you want to give?  The president of the FHSAA board  wants the meeting livestreamed (just like the past two were) and FHSAA staff essentially said "F*#% you; we're not going to do it that way."   Am I missing something?   Can anyone defend Tomyn's position on this issue?  Josh, are you planning on attending?  How early do you think you'll need to get there in order to insure that you get one of the twenty or so spots available to the public? 

    I am in agreement with you. It does not make any sense. 

  6. 42 minutes ago, Perspective said:

    Badbird, I don't know you well enough to ask, but I am wondering which coaching club is more exclusive.   :D

    I will give an unauthorized answer for Badbird. The 300 club is better.

    With that said, Badbird was an excellent coach and I understand why he feels the way he does. One stinging loss was in the third round of the 2003 (or was it 2004, I could be off a year) playoffs against Edgewater. Apopka was coming off a big win over Sandalwood and the fans were feeling we had a chance. Unfortunately, Apopka was plagued with unforced errors in the game and dropped a reasonably close one at College Park. Bobby Raugh put the nail in the coffin with a touchdown catch in the fourth quarter. Edgewater went on to lose the title game against a Miami team. 

  7. 40 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    Wow...thank for the great recap.

    It's a game I will never forget. The momentum went back and forth between two evenly matched teams. And, like I said, it was as cold as ice.

    A neighborhood kid that lived four doors down from me at the time, Jarrick Thomas, was a two way starter for that Edgewater team. He had attended Middle School with both my sons at Piedmont Lakes Middle, and in the evenings they would often play some street basketball with him. He blocked a Norland extra point and had several good tackles. Jarrick got a football scholarship but blew out his knee in his sophomore year. 

  8. 14 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    Just imagine, your team scores the go-ahead TD in the state final with only about 45 seconds remaining, only to have the opposing team hit a 60-yard pass play about 25 seconds later later to win the game.  This happened to one team within the past 25 years. 

    Which teams played this game and which won had the heartbreaking loss?


    Miami Norland vs Orlando Edgewater. Edgewater made what looked like a game winning drive ending in a touchdown when the running back took it in on a draw play. The drive was highlighted by some spectacular catches by Mike Walker of Edgewater, including one where he dived laterally to catch the ball full stretch. 

    Unfortunately, for Edgewater, despite having a good kicker, they elected to pooch the ball to prevent a long return, giving Norland the ball at about their 40. This Norland team had too big time receivers including Dwayne Bowe who would star at LSU and have a very good NFL career. However, Robert Spence elected instead, to throw the ball to a receiver who had not scored a touchdown the entire season. He collected the ball between Kenny Ingram and another Edgewater receiver and dived into the endzone, scoring with about 20 seconds on the clock. Edgewater got the ball back but was unable to bring off a second miracle. 

    That night was the coldest night I ever watched a game live. I watched the game on the Norland side because my niece was a Norland Junior. I was the sole Edgewater fan on that side and took a lot of grief after the game. 

  9. On 7/31/2020 at 6:48 PM, OldSchoolLion said:

    One of the better offensive linemen produced by the state of Florida.  He played for a losing team in high school.  He was a collegiate All-American and had a successful pro career.  When he was drafted into the NFL, he was the second highest OL chosen that year.

    Who is he?

    Where did he play in hs?

    Where did he play in college?

    What NFL team drafted him?

    Wayne Gandy - Central Florida's Polk County Sports Marketing

    He must be a 1970s or 1980s guy. He looks so small (not short) and athletic for an O Line. 

  10. 1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    A FL game that may be very intriguing to us from a competitive standpoint, even a state title game, may have little national appeal.  As an example, Columbus vs Apopka in the 8A title game last year was a super matchup, but how many folks from outside FL would have watched it knowing they might have had to pass on one of their own state's playoff games to do so?


    Hey, Columbus had a few big time recruits. And while you are right about Apopka, a smart coach would have had a chance to grab an outstanding, under recruited Apopka player named Jacquan Lowman. Appalachian state just got a gem, I might add. 

  11. 19 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    When your team's qb passes for well over 500 yards and rushes for well over 200 yards, you usually win.  Unbelievably, this team ended up losing their playoff game in a shootout in what had to be one of the tougher playoff losses in FHSAA history.

    Who was the team that lost that night?

    Who was that team's great qb?

    Hagerty High

    Jeff Driscol (sp)

    Lost to Lakeland

    Above is just a guess, but I do know Jeff starred in a losing effort in the playoffs at Lakeland. Jeff is one kid I though would star in college and go on to do well in the NFL. He was a man among boys in high school, but things just did not work out. 

  12. 1 hour ago, Perspective said:

    In a way, it might even be better if one team wins the 8A state championship for those teams who participated in the state series and another team wins the Dade-Broward 8A championship.   That way, people will be able to go on websites and message boards for the next twenty years and argue about which team would have won had they actually played each other.  Fans have been known to do that kind of thing.   :D

    Hey, maybe they could even arrange a match in January (post season) to determine which of the two is best, if conditions are safe to do so. 

  13. 17 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

    Only a handful of FL hs teams have graduated more than 1 qb who finished his hs career with 7000+ career passing yards.

    Who are those schools and who were the qb's who did it at each school?

    Maybe Plant High School. If so, Robert Marve and Aaron Murray?

  14. 24 minutes ago, skyway said:

    True leaders need to step up to work together and develop plans to have some semblance of a season...assuming Covid conditions remain largely what they are now. Such plans will be quite complicated and/or different from anything else we've seen in our lifetimes. Do we have any reason to believe such plans are being developed? It appears to me that FHSAA leadership simply wants to remain in denial and delay the inevitable. Delaying the season, for any reason other than to develop said plans and bring all participants on board with these new plans, for anything less than six months does zero good. Six months is the bare minimum amount of time we can expect to be needed to have a vaccine approved and available to enough people to change current conditions. Truthfully, six YEARS may not be enough to produce an approved, readily available vaccine. What do we do in that case?

    I have good reason to believe we will have at least two reasonably working vaccines by early next year. But I do agree that the FHSAA should be working on an acceptable plan since the start has been pushed back a month. I don't believe they will, though. So, the question is, if they don't should individual districts push ahead with their own ideas? My own thoughts are: If we have a season, it should probably be abridged. As far as possible, it should try to cover all district games. How should attendance be handled? This is a tough one. The schools obtain a lot of revenues from football. To bar live attendance or severely restrict it, would do a lot of damage to their other sports budgets. However, to allow live attendance will almost certainly result in some infections being spread at the games. Particularly for the better supported programs such as Apopka. 

    My own thoughts are that for this year we should err on the side of caution and not have a season (or at most have an abridged season with just a bowl game serving as post season). It would allow for time and serious though to be put into a future under a worst case scenario where we have no vaccine or effective treatment. With that said, it is not for me to try and impose my own beliefs on others. I realize not having a season does damage to the kids, coaches and fans. 

    Regardless of what happens, there will be those who are dissatisfied with the outcome. And regardless, of what happens there will be those that are hurt in one way or another. 

    This is water under the bridge, but if the shutdown time had been used to properly ramp up testing and contact tracing and impose proper quarantine measures on the exposed and infected, we would be on the back end of the virus now, much as several Asian and European and even Caribbean countries are at this stage.  

  15. 4 hours ago, HornetFan said:

    I never said that in any one year, the flu killed more people than Covid-19, so please don't misinterpret what I said or call them untruths. What I did say was the flu killed thousands of "kids" each year. The victims of Covid-19 have been mostly senior citizens with other serious conditions, and the majority of them have been in their 70s to 90s, living in nursing homes and ALF's. They weren't in good health before they became infected. There have been 5 people under the age of 18 die from Covid-19 in the state of Florida since this pandemic began; the latest last week,  a 9 nine year old girl with other serious conditions. Would you prefer these kids continue to play football unsupervised or under the guidance of coaches? The kids are going to play football just as they have since the beginning of the year. 

    Um, these kids have adults in their families. They are not kids living in group homes run and managed by kids. A South Korean study of kids transmission rates suggests that those above 10 years old are just as effective at spreading the virus among themselves and to adults as are adults. So, while you may be "technically right about the death of kids" you are totally ignoring the impact it may have on their families, including those that live in extended families with grandma or grandpa possibly present.

    Look I understand your frustration regarding the loss of the football season. It is frustrating to me too. But please understand the concern and frustration of those who see the real possibility of an unmitigated disaster resulting from playing football or other contact sports this season only to see it end in catastrophic disaster and needless illness and, yes, deaths. 

  16. 2 hours ago, HornetFan said:

    What happened that year when we cancelled football because of the flu? Oh yes, that's right, we have never cancelled school or sports because of the flu and every year the flu kills thousands more kids than the Covid-19 virus has. Truthfully, this isn't about the kids. Why did we have a surge in Florida and what age groups were responsible for that surge? Yes, mostly adults in the mid 20s through the mid 40s who couldn't stay away from the bars, pubs, beaches, and protest demonstrations. The kids have been playing football throughout the pandemic with no masks or social distancing, and they're the least effected group in our population. We talk about people dying, but it's not the kids. We already took away Spring sports, proms, graduations for the 2020 seniors; why not take away the senior seasons of the 2021 class and the only opportunity that many of these kids will have to earn a college scholarship? 

    There has not been a year since 1968/69 when the flu has killed more people in the USA than Covid-19 has in 4.5 moths this year. It is fine to make your point, but untruths should not be part of the argument. 

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