Nulli Secundus
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7 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
This year's 3A matchup between Chaminade-Madonna and King's Academy will be the third time in FHSAA history that teams from Broward and Palm Beach counties will play each other for a state title. As you'll see below, state title matchups involving teams from adjacent counties have been fairly rare, though they seem to be taking place more often in recent years.
2017 3A Chaminade vs Oxbridge
2009 5A Plant vs Manatee
2005 6A Deerfield Beach vs PB Gardens
2004 4A Armwood vs Lake Gibson
1982 3A Titusville vs Osceola
1968 A Jesuit vs Kathleen
2003 4A Armwood vs Lake Gibson as well.
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11 hours ago, peezy28 said:
We had a Boyz of Poison group at FAMU... I wonder if related.
Yes, spinoff. Do you remember Foo (Chris Anthony) or Kwame King ring a bell? Kwame was older and graduated with Ray. Chris graduated from LG and went to Fam with me from ‘94-‘99. We go all the way back to the defunct John F Cox on Memorial blvd.
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On 12/3/2018 at 9:24 PM, OldSchoolLion said:
22 wins in 11 seasons. Now that a culture of losing is entrenched, it will be difficult to turn around. When I heard about them building that school, I thought it was an odd location.
Maps don’t lie, LOL. Attached is what was supposed to happen immediately north of Tenoroc. To date, the only plans that have taken shape are Florida Polytechnic and land acquisition for a new hospital.
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59 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
All but a handful of the schools above are Class 5A-8A. Teneroc, a newer school that is only 4A, is a rarity. Did the school not grow as they had anticipated?
Tenoroc was anticipated to have a larger student body due to the Florida housing boom that eventually went bust. Of all the newer schools constructed in Polk County, Tenoroc is the most isolated in terms or nearby population. Although technically in Lakeland and a stone’s throw from Auburndale, there is literally nothing around it. If the Polytechnic area matures and planned developments take shape, Tenoroc will mostly likely see a bump in population. However until that time, the Titan program will be at the whim of established neighborhoods miles away to the east and west. I always felt like the high school in that area was built too soon. The county should’ve started in Southwest Lakeland.
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3 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Below are 100 schools that opened since 1992 in the most populous areas of Florida. Only 21 of these schools made the playoffs this year(23 did last year), and only 8 of them won a playoff game this year(11 did last year). Those that made the playoffs this year have been bolded, and those that won at least one playoff game have an asterisk beside them. Amongst those who didn't, relatively few have had significant success in football since the school opened, and for those that did, the success was often short-lived. Hillsborough County is the poster child for this phenomenon.
The 100 schools below have won a total of 214 playoff games between them. 20 of those 200 victories were by Bartram Trail. Listed after each team is the year the school opened and the number of playoff (p/o) wins by each school since they opened. 43 of the schools have never won a playoff game. Only Bartram Trail, Viera, Cypress Bay, Flanagan, Fleming Island, Northview and Braden River have 8 or more playoff wins.
Approximately 45% of teams in Classes 1A-8A made the playoffs this year. So, the 21% of teams from the list below that made the playoffs this season is disproportionately low.
The amount of big, new schools is unprecedented in Florida's history. Existing schools are becoming mega-schools (ie Lehigh High below), potentially moving them up in class to an even more competitive environment.
The upper classes have become loaded with "newer" schools. In a sense, they have been thrown into the fire before their programs have a chance to get traction. And even after 20 years, some are still struggling. With the current environment of talent concentrating at less and less schools, one has to wonder if these programs will ever get traction.
If Florida is overflowing with talent, why have so many of these teams struggled? If nothing changes, is it possible that in 25 years we will have yet another 75 "new" schools in the upper classes who struggle?
Totals below by class:
8A-26 teams
7A-35 teams
6A-18 teams
5A-14 teams
4A-3 teams
3A-1 team
2A-1 team
1A-1 team
Independent-1 teams
Brevard County
Bayside(6A) 1998 4 p/o wins
*Heritage(6A) 2009 6 p/o wins
Space Coast(5A) 2001 0 p/o wins
*Viera(7A) 2006 8 p/o wins
Broward County
Coral Glades(Ind) 2004 0 p/o wins
Coral Springs Charter(4A) 1999 0 p/o wins
Cypress Bay(8A) 2002 10 p/o wins
Everglades(8A) 2003 2 p/o wins
Flanagan(8A) 1996 9 p/o wins
Monarch(8A) 2003 0 p/o wins
West Broward(7A) 2008 1 p/o wins
Clay County
Fleming Island(7A) 2003 9 p/o wins
Oakleaf(7A) 2010 2 p/o wins
Ridgeview(5A) 1998 2 p/o wins
Collier County
Golden Gate(6A) 2004 0 p/o wins
Gulf Coast(7A) 1998 0 p/o wins
Palmetto Ridge(6A) 2005 0 p/o wins
Duval County
Atlantic Coast(7A) 2010 0 p/o wins
Escambia
*Northview(1A) 1996 10 p/o wins
West Florida(5A) 2001 6 p/o wins
Flagler County
Matanzas(6A) 2005 0 p/o wins
Hernando County
*Nature Coast(5A) 2003 5 p/o wins
Weeki Wachee(5A) 2010 0 p/o wins
Hillsborough
Alonso(8A) 2001 1 p/o wins
Blake(6A) 1997 3 p/o wins
Durant(7A) 1995 5 p/o wins
Freedom(7A) 2002 0 p/o wins
Lennard(7A) 2006 2 p/o wins
Middleton 2002(5A) (reopened) 2 p/o wins
Newsome(8A) 2003 3 p/o wins
Riverview(8A) 1998 2 p/o wins
Sickles(7A) 1997 3 p/o wins
Spoto(5A) 2006 1 p/o win
Steinbrenner(8A) 2009 0 p/o wins
Strawberry Crest(7A) 2009 0 p/o wins
Wharton(7A) 1997 6 p/o wins
Indian River County
Sebastian River(6A) 1994 1 p/o win
Lake County
East Ridge(7A) 2002 6 p/o wins
Lake Minneola(7A) 2011 0 p/o wins
South Lake(6A) 1993 1 p/o win
Lee County
East Lee County(6A) 2007 0 p/o wins
Ida S Baker(6A) 2004 0 p/o wins
Island Coast(6A) 2007 4 p/o wins
Lehigh(6A) 1994 2 p/o wins
Leon County
Chiles(7A) 1999 0 p/o wins
St John Paul II(2A) 2001 0 p/o wins
Manatee
*Braden River(7A) 2005 9 p/o wins
Lakewood Ranch(7A) 1998 2 p/o wins
Marion County
Belleview(5A) 1995 7 p/o wins
Westport(7A) 2000 1 p/0 win
Martin County
Jensen Beach(6A) 2004 0 p/o wins
Miami-Dade County
Dr Krop(8A) 1998 4 p/o wins
Ferguson(8A) 2003 0 p/o wins
Goleman(7A) 1995 1 p/o win
Hialeah Gardens(8A) 2009 0 p/o wins
Reagan(7A) 2006 0 p/o wins
Varela(8A) 2000 0 p/o wins
Westland(7A) 2007 0 p/o wins
Nassau County
Yulee(5A) 2006 (reopened) 3 p/o wins
Orange County
Cypress Creek(8A) 1992 0 p/o wins
East River(7A) 2009 0 p/o wins
Freedom(8A) 2003 0 p/o wins
Lake Nona(7A) 2009 0 p/o wins
Ocoee(7A) 2005 0 p/o wins
Olympia(8A) 2001 1 p/o win
Timber Creek(8A) 2001 4 p/o wins
*Wekiva(8A) 2007 5 p/o wins
Windermere(7A) 2017 0 p/o wins
Osceola County
Celebration(7A) 2003 0 p/o wins
Harmony(7A) 2004 2 p/o wins
Liberty(7A) 2007 0 p/o wins
Palm Beach County
Boynton Beach(6A) 2001 0 p/o wins
*Palm Beach Central(8A) 2003 4 p/o wins
Park Vista(8A) 2004 3 p/o wins
Royal Palm Beach(7A) 1997 5 p/o wins
West Boca(7A) 2004 2 p/o wins
Pasco County
Anclote(5A) 2009 0 p/o wins
Fivay(5A) 2010 0 p/o wins
Mitchell(6A) 2000 2 p/o wins
Sunlake(6A) 2007 2 p/o wins
Wesley Chapel(5A) 1999 0 p/o wins
Wiregrass Ranch(7A) 2006 1 p/o wins
Pinellas
*Calvary Christian(3A) 2000 2 p/o wins
Palm Harbor(8A) 1996 1 p/o win
Polk County
George Jenkins(8A) 1993 0 p/o wins
Lake Region(6A) 1995 0 p/o wins
Ridge(8A) 2005 2 p/o wins
Tenoroc(4A) 2008 0 p/o wins
St Johns
Bartram Trail(7A) 2000 20 p/o wins
Creekside(7A) 2008 1 p/o win
Menendez(5A) 2000 1 p/o wins
Ponte Vedra(5A) 2008 5 p/o wins
St Lucie County
Centennial(8A) 1998 2 p/o wins
Treasure Coast(8A) 2006 1 p/o wins
Sarasota
North Port(7A) 2001 0 p/o wins
Seminole County
Hagerty(7A) 2005 0 p/o wins
Winter Springs(8A) 1997 1 p/o win
Volusia
Atlantic(4A) 1994 1 p/o win
Pine Ridge(6A) 1994 0 p/o wins
University(8A) 2010 0 p/o wins
3 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:...another tidbit. 13 of the 21 teams mentioned above who made the playoffs lost in the first round. Of those 13, 6 had a running clock put on them.
Hagerty(7A) 48-7
Sickles(7A) 39-0
West Broward(7A) 43-0
Wiregrass Ranch(7A) 43-7
South Lake(6A) 54-0
Coral Springs Charter(4A) 55-10
Is it really a surprise?
Two words:
Sprawl
DemographicsI think it would be interesting to see how these newer schools have affected programs they were meant to relieve. For example, looking at Polk County below are the new schools and the schools in which they drew their population from.
George Jenkins (1993) -> Lakeland, Lake Gibson, Kathleen
Lake Region (1995) -> Winter Haven, Bartow
Ridge (2005) -> Haines City
Tenoroc (2008) -> Lakeland, Auburndale, Lake Gibson -
Ray Lewis. Aside from knowing through mutual friends in high school, I’ve seen him a couple of times throughout his UM years when he used to dance with Boyz of Poison (BoP) out of Lakeland and once after the Ravens’ super bowl win.
I also see Fred Williamson on a somewhat regular basis here in Atlanta. He’s a cool ass guy and loves smoking cigars and hanging out at the Intercontinental in Buckhead.
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I might have to fly down for this one. Another TD! Are you kidding me? Wow
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What can I say? This will be the 6th time the Naughts and Raiders have met in the finals in two different classes and 8th overall dating back to 1996. Combined, both teams have appeared in the finals 24 times with 16 state titles and 2 national titles a piece.
Forget the history between these two programs.
Who takes it?
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50 minutes ago, Legion37 said:
Well I am going to Lakeland/Edgewater tomorrow and I will be planning on Lakeland Winning...
I hope you’re right. I work with a bunch of Orange County natives here in Atlanta and they swear this is their year. LOL
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8 hours ago, CommomSense said:
I have followed this site since it's inception. I am a former coach and AD. I finally had to join and give my two cents.
This is high school football. 99% of all people actually involved understand that someone else might be better than them. With ANY system, there are going to be "bubble teams" and exceptions. Without exception, the teams that truly deserve to be in playoffs will get in. Occasionally, there will be teams that get in that others deem "do not deserve it" based on there teams resumes. Good for them!
I do know this: THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT BELONGS ON A POLITICAL BALLOT.
Thank you!
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20 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:
Do you think Venice can upset STA?
Is it really an upset if Venice wins? No team is invincible and history has proven that time and time again. Sooner or later, even the mightiest will fall.
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Bloomingdale indeed. I remember at time when having B’dale on the schedule was a guaranteed win. They’ve come a long way and I hope that program continues to improve.
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Tate fired, then reinstated. What in the world....
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39 minutes ago, Legion37 said:
8AGeorge Jenkins(4-1) @ 7ALakeland(6-0) Lakeland has owned this rivalry and will likely win this one easily, but George Jenkins may put up more of a fight than they have in recent years.
Lakeland played flat, missed 3 xpts and still won 42-0 with a running clock late -
Not to mention turnovers too....
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Dreadnaught football never gets old!
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Happy Birthday! Peace to you and your family. At some point in life, we all may have setbacks regarding our own health or the health of someone close to us which I can tell you firsthand IS NOT something I'd wish on my worst enemy. Stay prayed up and know that everything will be okay. You have family and friends in your corner and this board. Thank you for sharing your story because life happens and the young people that frequent this platform need to understand that the game of life is no joke.Guys yesterday I had a set back.. Went to the ER at Aventura yesterday and found out I had Blood clots on the base of my lungs... They don't know how it came. My family don't have them and they said it's rare that somebody my age gets them.. But I'm on blood thinners and up n walking to celebrate my 33rd bday with my twin sister today... Felt like sharing this with you guys... Y'all stay bless famil!!!!
Hang in there bro!
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Oh boy.....
No , I haven't been to Tiger "Stadium" but how does it compare to the SIXTH biggest in Texas?
versus Tiger Stadium Lake City:
What am I missing?
Go get your head examined, kid....
You're wrong for that Broward (as I'm laughing my ass off).
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Lake Gibson showed a ton of guts tonight. Those kids gave it everything they had. Awesome seeing those defenses blasting each other.
The defense did what i expected but I was more worried about their offensive production and how they would respond against the CC defense. Again, proud of the Braves at the way they handled themselves and wish them the but of luck next season.
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Congratulations to the Chiefs on the championship.
The Braves had a stellar season and capped it off with a runner-up finish to a Carol City team that many thought would absolutely run you off the field. Final score 14-6. Polk County is proud of you.
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Northwestern must of given up that film
Crosstown rival Lakeland did.
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Let's b honest. STA would out a clock on everyone in the state at this point except Carol City and IMG.
Lol, only the teams without an abundance of talent and half way decent coaching. No matter how strong STA is, they're still human an vulnerable when challenged. History shows this.
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I'm sorry but Lake Gibson doesn't have a shot period. Yeah anything can happen which is why you play 4 quarters, but the talent roster from top to bottom on both sides isn't comparable at all. Carol City on defense is fire I mean that defense is clicking on all cylinders and when the offense picks up its a rap. Carol City has played IMG Academy, Oxbridge Academy, Lakeland, Southridge, Central, Northwestern twice and a so called good Mainland squad. When you look at Lake Gibson who have they played or what was there signature win on the season.
They have a better shot than Lakeland.
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Bad porn, lol. More like a bad 70's porn soundtrack.Sounds like it was porn to you...
Plant got it, they got it all night;
STA gave it to them, they gave it just right.
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Most famous sports athlete you ever met in person?
in The Huddle
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LOL, okay. That’s when my sister went. You probably knew her or at least her knuckled-headed girlfriends.