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6 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
How would getting a dozen high profile transfer on an already talented roster “shock the world”???
if/when they beat STA, Central or Chaminade, it will be seen as a major upset. If they beat STA, STA will not win their district.
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6 hours ago, Nulli Secundus said:
As the governing body for high school athletics, the FHSAA should not have shifted duties to a 3rd party service when it has the capabilities to manage those functions.
- Create a member portal where AD's are responsible for the accuracy of team schedules. Oh wait! The FHSAA already has a member portal.
- Create a database that contains team schedules for each sport and use that to cross reference and validate scheduled events. In other words, Team A is scheduled to play Team B on Friday. If Team A enters a date of Thursday while Team B accurately selects Friday, that event is flagged and notifications to confirm and correct are sent.
- Provide a customer facing portal to us (Parents, students, alumni, media, colleges) in which we don't have to guess or get half-assed, erroneous information regarding team schedules.
There are only 2 reasons I can think of as to why this has not/will not happen:
- Money - nothing is free. Even so, there are relatively inexpensive options to implement and maintain. I know middle schoolers that can hook this up in a day.
- Lack of interest - Self-explanatory
The bottom line is the year is 2022. TOTALY UNACCEPTABLE!
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58 minutes ago, HornetFan said:
You missed my point. I was speaking of the football players on the list. How many of those football players transferred to other schools because they could improve their academics rather than looking for a better football team? I mainly follow schools in the Orlando / Central Florida area, and the QB musical chairs have reached ridiculous proportions. Have any of these kids even considered that maybe they were part of the reason that their current team wasn't reaching expectations, or that maybe every kid playing QB in HS isn't a D1 prospect; only a small percentage are.
Most football players transferred for football. My point is that many kids transfer (or move into a more desired school's zone) for many other reasons.
That said, I do think there are kids in urban areas like Fort Lauderdale who'd prefer the overall environment-including academics- at a wealthy private school over the inner city public school they are zoned for.
*I do get your joke. Just trying to add to the conversation.
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15 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
No Lehigh is ranked because they have a 5* RB and since recruiting rankings are used heavily in preseason computer polls it's likely holding far too much weight than it should
He's a good RB but so was Derrick Henry and we saw how much that helped Yulee
The key for Lehigh is that the year before last, they played (lost 52-14) STA and had several common opponents with Miami Central. Both STA and MC have games in recent years with both CA teams and other teams who've played CA teams. THAT is why Lehigh shows up high now when factoring in the RB.
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5 hours ago, HornetFan said:
How about a list of those that transferred for better academic opportunities:
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There are actually a lot of those kids! It's just that there are no people on messages boards who know their names or talk about them, because they don't play football. (Some of the private schools really do offer a vastly better educational experience than the public school kids are zoned for.)
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1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
But at least I feel good about my rankings because I did better than these trash computers can do
Columbia fan 1
Computer virus poll 0
It's a shame that the folks who voted to use Calpreps for playoff seeding were utterly ignorant as to what calpreps is and how it works. You can bet not one of them even knows it's calpreps: they think it's "Maxpreps" and don't get it.
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1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
No Lehigh is ranked because they have a 5* RB and since recruiting rankings are used heavily in preseason computer polls it's likely holding far too much weight than it should
He's a good RB but so was Derrick Henry and we saw how much that helped Yulee
He's not as highly rated a player as Cormani McClain. Of course, calpreps doesn't know who he plays for
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On Lakeland's team preview page, they say they are "not yet rated" (even though they are at #127 nationally, better than Dr. D's list) at the link here. I couldn't post a screenshot because the file was too big. Despite listing all known players with 2 or more stars for the teams, the only major prospect they list for Lakeland is Tyler Williams, so they know literally nothing of Lakeland's roster, which is unsurprising. Calpreps- which is what the Maxpreps "power" ratings are, predictably has 5 of the top 8 teams nationally, and 7 of the top 12, from...California. So, as I said above, playing a team from CA, or playing a team who's played a team from CA in recent years (doesn't have to be the present year) makes a HUGE difference. SFA has played multiple CA teams in recent years. So, with margin of victory/defeat not factoring in, Venice losing 56-0 to SFA will be a MASSIVE boost to Venice's calpreps/maxpreps ratings. LOL
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It's the calpreps computer, I assume. Those ratings heavily favor teams from other states. So games in recent history either against teams from those states, or against teams who've themselves played against teams from those states make a huge difference. Venice's games against IMG and SFA (both play teams from more valued states) in recent years figure to ensure a top rating for Venice throughout the season. )Without even looking, I bet Lehigh or its opponents in recent years have played teams from more valued states.)
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2 hours ago, Perspective said:
Go up to the upper right hand corner next to your screen name, and click on Settings > Account Settings > Signature. Up at the top of that page, it has a toggle followed by: "Show other people's signatures alongside their content ." Click that to the "off" position.
Let me know if that works.
It worked! Thanks a million!
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33 minutes ago, Perspective said:
Skyway, if memory serves me correct, I had the same concern and someone was able to explain to me how to change my settings so that the signature blocks won't show up on the posts. My life is so much better now.
SOMEBODY HELP ME DO THIS!!!!!
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Going through this thread, it really strikes me just how important it is that these message boards limit the length of the "signatures". It's extremely annoying trying to scroll down threads when one person's signature is very long and of course in every single post they make.
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2 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
STA, SJB and MD. That’s it
You love to disparage the teams that don't work with your boy Joe. But, that doesn't explain how SFA is supposed to score any points against the 2022 Lakeland defense. How would the SFA offense attack this Lakeland defense? I'm talking match ups. What would they exploit? (I'll try to keep an open mind, rather than assume you'll make some cheap quip about Lakeland's schedule.)
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3 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:
You don’t think Venice having 2 weeks to prepare for them will change anything?
I'm afraid this Venice team is not going to be as good as the team that lost to SFA in 2019. And SFA will be as good or better than their 2019 team. I don't recall that game being the least bit competitive.
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2 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Pasco County doesn’t have them dudes. They played a heck of a game vs Edgewater but that is gonna be 3 seasons ago. They are good for Pasco. But that’s it. They are good for a round or 2. Trinity is an affluent suburb outside Tampa. They have the resources and fan support. They just don’t have the Jimmys and Joes to compete on a state level. And the coach doesn’t like challenging himself in the non district. They play one decent non district game for their standard (The Villages) and will probably lose that game
What the coach needs to do is build a quality program that families in the area want to send their kids to. If they currently lack the talent to play with elite teams, it probably does no good to schedule one and get clobbered. But if they win most all of their games and build quality facilities and services and do it with class, they'll get better players. Tampa Plant, Jesuit, and Venice all come to mind as programs that didn't figure to have a ton of talent, but ended up able to play with the elites many years anyway.
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1 hour ago, Ray Icaza said:
Our OHS Kowboys are again primed for another outstanding season which our upcoming schedule clearly reflects, but I will keep my powder dry until we complete voluntary summer workouts and then fall camp. I believe a lot can happen between now and late August for better or for worse. Right now, our participation rate with our players is extremely high and they are working extremely hard so that is a huge plus at this stage of summer. Toho HS should be interesting to watch over the next couple of years with Coach Paradiso (formerly Lake Nona) taking over the program. His MO offensively over the years has relied on a well-schooled aerial attack producing several good QB's. We have a young prospect (8th grader) out of Kissimmee named Sabby Meassick that played on our youth league teams the last few years and he has chosen to enroll at Toho rather than OHS. He has size, arm strength and obvious talent as Gators Staff has already made him a verbal offer. Have an inkling why he made this decision, but with that said don't want to speculate any further. Looking forward to the kickoff for the upcoming season. GO KOWBOYS!!
No doubt about this. And, as you know, that's not at all limited to transfers. Some players and teams will work their asses off and get much better, while others will be lazy, not improve, and show up to camp out of shape.
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4 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
And what is a deep playoff run? Regional finals? Final 4?
It varies some based on the classification and the draw. You could make a deep run and then run into a team that you can't compete with like Central. You could also be really strong but get a tough draw and bow out early. So, I guess I'd define it as being good enough to be reasonably competitive with any/all the teams in your classification.
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19 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
It's also worth noting that Colin Hurley was already at TCA by his 8th grade year and I think he even played as an 8th grader if I recall correctly
He was always a TCA kid just like Bryce Capers had spent his entire high school career at TCA before playing at Riverside as a senior
The only Riverside transfer that had played there at any point was the Oakleaf linebacker, the rest were all senior transfers who had never played at Riverside prior to transferring in as a senior, they are literally an less talented example of what Lakeland is doing this off-season by snatching up local kids to try and create a deep playoff run team without earning it organically
Funny enough even with all the transfers they didn't even get as far as their less talented team from 2019 who took 6 quarters to finally get points in a playoff game
We've reached a point where, for just about anyone to make a deep playoff run, they have to snatch up local kids. All of the schools are trying to snatch up all of the local talent. They're just having varying degrees of success doing so.
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19 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
But But, STA recruits
All of the schools that benefit from an influx of transfers also lose transfers all the time. Roughly 95% of the time, the players they lose weren't good enough to get as much playing time as they want, because there's someone else better than them at their position. Lakeland lost two running backs this off-season, both of whom figure to get scholarship offers. There's just substantial movement of players all over the place.
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15 hours ago, PinellasFB said:
Yeah people are so focused upon the 300 lb benchmark for linemen they forget that college recruiters look for speed and length for the DL. A 6'3 230 lb DT that is super athletic and has long arms translates better to the college game compared to a 6'0 300 lb immovable block of human that looks like a stud at the HS level. I would take the lighter, longer guys all day as they are the hardest to block due to their length.
Back when I was a kid, TV broadcasts of games would routinely start games with comparing the weights of the OL and DLs. They'd emphasize it when there was a big disparity in lbs per man. That would matter if it was actual wrestling going on. But, the only goal of the DL is to get to the ball; they don't need to engage with the OL at all! Miami in the 80s was famous for having guys shoot the gaps and blow plays up. Obviously, at the more advanced levels of the game, guys can be outmatched if they're too small/weak. But, in HS quickness is the most important attribute.
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13 hours ago, Jullian said:
Agree. When your DE’s are faster than the RB’s, it can b a long day for the run game.
And I think something hard for a lot of people to get their heads around is how lighter DTs can be a major problem as well. You'd need a lot of them to rotate through, but the 215 lb kids can cause havoc shooting the gaps if they know what they're doing.
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Again, it isn't the schools behind this. It's the players. They see each other out at camps, tournaments, pick-up games and on social media, chat it up, and try to build super teams. The coaches may have an idea of what's going on, but I don't think they're directing or guiding it. Not directly, anyway. It's pretty easy for everyone to see where a team could use help. And they all know who the best players at those positions in the area are. So, the dominoes can fall pretty quickly without a coach saying/doing anything.
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1 hour ago, Jullian said:
D. Stephenson 6’4” 225/ TJ Capers 6’3” 215/ Daylen Russell 6’3” 230/ Robert Williams 6’3” 245.
I couldn't comment on how good those guys are. But, I can say there's a long history of evidence showing that lighter, quicker, faster DLs are preferable to bigger kids that may project better at the college level. The reason probably being that HS OL's often lack the cohesion, alertness and quickness to fully utilize any size advantage they may have. So, even though a critic may say they lack the +250lb guys, I'm willing to believe it is possible this could be the best unit at the high school level, even if other DLs have more guys with more college success.
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2 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
If it come as mocking then I apologize I’ve never mocked any team on here that’s not my style. Also most if not all of those games you’ve mentioned were playoff & state championship games.
Dillard backs down from no one win or lose, we traveled to iMG when no one else would, we traveled to lake Gibson when they were a state power, but in the playoffs we never get to play any up north schools because with the region Dillard is in we go south early in the playoffs.
Even this year we’re stepping out of SFL & we’re traveling to Tallahassee to face a formidable opponent in Lincoln.
Traveling long distances for games in which a sponsor is not footing most/all of the bill are bad ideas for all public school teams (and most privates, too). We shouldn't mock some for not playing such games, while letting others off the hook. Teams should play other teams within no more than a couple hours' drive. This means that teams in urban areas with several good teams are more likely to play more elite teams.
2022 transfer thread
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How accurate (or not) is the 247 player list for Dillard's c/o 2023 and 2024?