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Gaither is in Region 2. Their biggest obstacles to making it to the final four will be Clearwater or Largo. In short, they've got a relatively easy path to make it to the state semis, where anything can happen.
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2 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
They aren't getting the same level of talent they were in 2016 or 2017 teams
They may stay here it don't mean they will always be top 10 nationally
Apparently, they had a bad recruiting season.
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3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Beating Armwood would push them into top 25 most likely
Maybe top 15
We'll know in two weeks. They play Oct. 11th.
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Plant held their own against Gonzaga in the first half, giving up a late 2nd quarter TD to go into halftime down 14-7. I noticed coaches from Clemson, Georgia, LSU and Oregon on the sidelines watching the game. Most of the eyes were on Gonzaga's QB (reportedly the number 1 dual threat QB in the 2021 class. He broke off a couple of nice runs, including a 15-20 yarder for a TD, but also threw a real nice long ball. Nice touch on the ball. From a defensive standpoint, you can't bat .500 on deep passes, batting down half and giving up long gains and/or TD's on the other half. Gonzaga had a huge line. Reminded me a bit of a STA offensive line. All that said, I don't see them as a top-10 team. I think there are a handful of public school teams in Florida that would beat them.
But we did get to see some cool buildings.
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5 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
They are climbing pretty good so far, they keep winning they will keep climbing
One could make the argument that three of the top four teams in 7A are all in Region 2 (Lakeland, Armwood and Tampa Bay Tech). The fourth team being STA. But only one of those three will advance to the final four. I wouldn't be surprised if TBT beats Armwood, but I don't see either of them beating the Polk County All-Star team.
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Nice week, Columbia! Well done.
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Tampa Bay Tech deserves to be ranked much higher in my opinion.
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7 minutes ago, Joshua Wilson said:
THIS IS THE REAL PICK'EMS THREAD...
I asked NoleBull to post last night because I have been sick battling a cold. I am a little bit better today, but still not out of the woods.
Glad to hear you're feeling better. Get well soon.
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Tiebreakers:
I'll take Strawberry Crest (and the 84 points) against Lakeland.
And I'll take Randazzo on the road against Eastland Christian. Rumor has it they've moved the game from Eastland's campus to Camping World Stadium based on pre-game ticket sales.
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Did you expect the Randazzo game to be a blowout, too?
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5 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Beating a team 84-0 and leaving one's starters in after being up 42-0 is within the rules. Does that deserve to be celebrated?
For the record, I can live with the current rules. Generally speaking, I would say that many of the good teams today would be good with transfers or without.
My issue is with some of the behavior I see today, ie coaches not using a common sense, balanced approach to navigating within the current system. The hypocrisy I see is disappointing...people who bashed private schools for years are now turning around and gaming the system, using the exact same excuses used by private schools for years.
As I see it, these are two different issues: sportsmanship, on the one hand, and rules on the other hand. With sportsmanship, there is a judgment factor involved and reasonable people often can have different opinions as to whether something is sportsmanlike or not. Take, for example, a team who calls a timeout with 3 seconds to go in the half, when they're already up 31-0, to attempt a field goal or perhaps a Hail Mary. Sportsmanlike? Probably not, but I could probably argue the other side of this one under the right set of circumstances.
Rules, on the other hand, should be black and white. Either they are being followed or they are being broken. Either a coach or a player is recruiting or they are not. Sure, there may be a few gray areas, but by and large, something is either legal or not.
I'm not sure what you mean about the private schools and the excuses being offered up. I gather, from other posts, that you're talking about the rationalization given for those who make the decision, at some point in their high school football career, to transfer to a private school because that somehow provides them with an opportunity they otherwise would not have had. Or is it something else? To be honest, I understand the "we provide a better environment" argument, to a certain extent. People (adults and high school football players alike) want to be part of something that's successful. Human nature. If a kid has an opportunity to be part of a successful high school football program, and the rules permit it, it's kind of hard to fault the kid for moving. In my opinion, that's why the rules have to prevent it and why all schools - public and private alike - should have to follow the same set of rules.
If you're referring to something else, please explain.
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1 hour ago, Legion37 said:
A victory is a victory if it is done within the rules. And a student who attends a school is very much not an outsider, those transfers will be receiving LHS diplomas, just as I did. Military kids sometimes attend 2 or 3 different highs schools due to the nature of that life style. If a transfer comes in and pushes some one out of a position, be it in sports, band, student government, Jrotc, drama...whatever, then it is as it is. Life is not fair. Despite attempts by some to make it so, it just isn't. Nothing unethical at all working within the rules.
Legion, I agree with you on this point. Clearly, the victory has to be achieved by working/playing within the rules, both on the field and off. And when it's done properly, it deserves to be celebrated.
As best I can tell, there are a number of people out there (including some on this board and probably the author of this post) who aren't real happy with the rules that currently exist. But most of us probably know that the only way to change that is through the legislature. At this time, I seriously doubt that this subject would be as high on the priority list of most state senators and representatives as it was for the Polk County delegation a few years ago. It's just a matter of priorities.
So, as someone else pointed out, the folks in Lakeland are going to have to work extra hard to make sure that they are following the rules, because others will be watching. Just remember, when you're on top, there's a lot of folks down below you who can look up and see your backside. Best to make sure it's clean.
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Wow, this Madison/Columbia smack talk is pretty intense!
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It's really quite simple: when it's your kid, you absolutely want what's best for him and you'll do whatever it takes to make that happen. When talented kids show up on your school's doorsteps, they were drawn there by the program's history and tradition, the coaches and the prospects of developing the kids into players worthy of D-1 scholarships. When talented kids show up on another school's doorsteps, they were improperly recruited. There you have it.
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11 hours ago, skyway said:
I find it so incredibly weird that we have message boards full of people who proudly claim to be capitalists, who claim to hate the forced equality of socialism etc, who suddenly do a 180 and come on here and bash families for moving their kids to schools that provide the most resources and best experiences for the kids. It's totally great to try to get your kid into a school that offers a great engineering program, the best band programs, best theater etc. But should the family of a promising football player want to go somewhere that happens to offer a considerably better football program with better resources and services, suddenly you all become bleeding heart socialists begging for everyone to have the same everything.
See next post
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/poor-schools-cant-compete-richer-120227608.html
Interesting article. Could this ever happen in Florida?
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You know, at this point, I don't know whether we should blow the whistle on whoever is behind this or, alternatively, go along with the gag . . . have guys start showing up at their games and giving reports, throwing them in the Pick Em one week, someone could create a dummy account on here and be a big Randazzo booster, etc. I'm sort of intrigued now. What, exactly, is their end game?
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8 minutes ago, Steinbrenner Warriors said:
so all of their opponents are real schools... who don't have football programs. This seems like a student project to see if they could infiltrate maxpreps system and become highly ranked never playing a game
That OT loss to the South Carolina school is going to hurt their ranking!
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3 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
Yea dillard is in 6a-15 and miami central is in district 6A-16
So, they're in the same region. And, it would be possible for a 9-1 MC team to have a higher RPI than a 10-0 Dillard team, based on the record of MC's opponents and MC's opponent's opponents versus the record of Dillard's opponents and Dillard's opponent's opponents. MC could end up with the higher seed and, thus, home field advantage.
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Dillard, if I'm not mistaken, Classes 1-4 do not have districts. They just have four regions and the top 6 teams in each region make the playoff (top teams and seeding determined by RPI). For classes 5-8, there are four regions. Within each region, there are four districts. The four district champs are in the playoffs, seeded 1-4 per RPI. The four best teams in each region (per RPI) also make the playoffs, and get seeded 5-8.
If Dillard and Miami Central are in different districts, a team with one loss could indeed end up seeded higher than a team with no losses.
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Yeah, if someone created a fake MaxPreps account, they sure went to a lot of trouble, as there are also accounts for the teams Randazzo supposedly played. And stats for the players. But I can find anything else about Randazzo on the Internet. The closest newspaper (Sun-Sentinel) has a high school sports sections with a lot of scores, but no mention or Randazzo. And they don't show up as an FHSAA member (in a class or independent). One of their opponents (Citrus Park Christian) is from the Tampa Bay area, but I've never heard of them.
It's a mystery!
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19 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Here’s a bizarre story. Randazzo from Coconut Creek has a maxpreps profile for football and says they are currently 4-1. The coach listed is Tyler Johnson.
Heres the crazy part. I called the Randazzo school and they said they don’t have football. They are a special needs school for K-12, and they never even heard of someone named Tyler Johnson employed at that school!!
Lmao!!!
Obviously, you called the wrong Randazzo school in Coconut Creek.
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Prior to the season (i.e., back when schedules are made), I would have given Plant a puncher's chance against Gonzaga this Friday night. Since then, Gonzaga (4-0) has risen to 9th in the MaxPreps Top 25 and Plant (0-4) has gotten off to its worst start since Robert Weiner took over 15 years ago. It'll be a tough road for the Panthers.
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2 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
@VeniceIndiansFootball picked Niceville and Lincoln. Lol
I think that's called 'hedging your bets.'
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Miramar head coach suspended for remainder of season.
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I have not seen the video. But, I have seen a number of coaches call timeout and walk out onto the field to talk to the white hat. Candidly, I think the white hats actually prefer this, as it gets the conversation away from the bench of the coach's team and it gets the conversation away from the fans. And it allows the conversation to take place on more of a one-on-one basis. Now, if the white hat had previously said something to the coach about coming out onto the field (even after calling a time out) or if the white hat put his hand up and gave the coach the proverbial "stop sign," and the coach continued walking out on to the field (especially if the coach is yelling as he's walking out and/or walking out in an aggressive manner), that would be different.
Again, I haven't seen the video. But if the coach simply came out onto the field to discuss something (player safety, uncalled penalty, etc.) I might be able to accept an ejection, but I'm having a hard time accepting this would be worth a suspension for the rest of the year (unless the coach has a history and was on double-secret probation).