DarterBlue2
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22 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
The FHSAA needs you on staff!! They need to hire you and have you as the exclusive football and flag source.
Agree.
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4 minutes ago, Joshua Wilson said:
Pick'ems are back this week...
This thread will lockdown at 7:00 PM ET on Friday. Reply with your picks only.
Still working on standings...
Miami Northwestern vs. Booker T. Washington
Miami Central at IMG Academy
Tampa Bay Tech at Hillsborough
Pahokee at Vero Beach
Orange City University at Lake Brantley
Viera at Cocoa
Bartram Trail at St. Augustine
Mainland at Dr. Phillips
MItchell at ClearwaterDunbar at VenicePicks in bold.
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I agree with Panther Nation. I think Vero Beach wins a close game. My score: VB 35 Pahokee 30.
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5 minutes ago, KeemD321 said:
I think Cocoa is playing them to give their backups/younger guys real game experience.
I get that, but it would probably be better to provide that experience in the second half of games against better teams assuming Cocoa is up by three scores or more. Not sure what playing ISB accomplishes. And I am not ragging on Cocoa. ISB seems to find a ton of nationally relevant teams willing to play them. To me the whole situation is sad.
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10 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said:
I think International House of Pancakes had their first win 2 weeks ago. They play Grayson this week. I see their longest winning streak ever coming to an end this week. Why do they, ISB, schedule these killer teams? Very sad to me and I can't imagine why Cocoa is playing them in 2 weeks. If they need the money that bad they should apply for grants...
The bigger question is: why would these powers ever agree to play ISB? Aside from a win to pad the record, this does noting for those teams in terms of even evaluating second string members on the roster.
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10 hours ago, Sharkbait said:
You can't put a game plan together in 2 days no matter if you're Saban, Harbaugh, or even Belichick. You are going to need better players and hopefully they run similar schemes offensively and defensively as Lee.
Agreed. Especially since school takes precedence over sporting activities.
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Just now, Sharkbait said:
That is what is listed on their maxpreps page. That may be including their jv but I was just going by what they had listed.
Maxpreps lists Apopka with 111. This includes: recent graduates, transfers out (including one out of state), kids that were never on Apopka's roster. It also excludes some current kids. Bottom line: Maxpreps is pretty inaccurate, at least for some schools. Not sure how they update the data, but it has flaws.
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I suspect, but could be wrong, that Cocoa will be too physical for Viera.
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Just now, Zoe Boy said:
They might have to play 2 games in 1 week like how they do in optimis football
Exactly. That is probably the only solution at this stage.
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5 minutes ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:
No because if you go to (none racist comment) these white schools they freaking support they school old and young matter fact you may see more old then you do young even the alumni and present students are not even supporting && as I stated up top the players are not even fully supporting @Cat_Scratch Coaches and players and then when u call them out on it from the stands they get mad with u as if your telling a lie the fans and the players and coaches should be 1 we can see the field and everything else just like u how about being open to listening
Not the case in all of these schools. A Boone High School fits what you are saying above. However, for every Boone, I can think of a ton of similar demographic schools where this is not the case. That is, the stands are empty and there is very little support. A lot depends on the particular community.
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2 minutes ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:
A lot of fans really only feel up for home games if that especially down here in south Florida away games don't bring a big crowd for the away school unless it's a big game.
in my opinion no matter how big the game is or how good or sorry the teams is fill up the stands && support your team.
& @ColumbiaHighFan2017class @DarterBlue2 Idk if u guys may have missed it but I was waiting for you to give me your insight on the low level of passion & love of the game even from most players down here most seem uninterested or nonchalant their just out there they lose by 50 they just out there and then u have the 1s they don't care there just out there for their own individual stats long as they get recognized or get a Td or something in the game to hell with the score it's not every team or every player in Florida of course but u see it more times then none especially in south Florida long story short it's not a family down here so on another note why would boosters and the community go all out for a team of players who can give a crap it's like what do these coaches and players talk about in off season in my opinion you shouldn't even be allowed to play if A you don't want to be apart of a family B you don't want to give maximum effort & C want to win states
Passion needs to be instilled by the leadership. A good coaching staff works hard at finding a theme or set of values around which a team of young people can rally. Teamwork is not innate; it must be cultivated. If players feel their coaches don't care or are only in it for themselves they will not show a whole lot of caring or concern besides their own individual stats.
At 15, 16, 17 or 18 you are still looking for leadership from adults. If that leadership is not forthcoming, then apathy and cynicism quickly takes over. That may be part of the problem.
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2 minutes ago, Zoe Boy said:
MNW support has never left.. That's 1 school I know that their fans come and watch cause they believe their teams should go to states every year... They have throwback fans...
I agree.
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2 minutes ago, "PANTHER NATiON" (WE HERE) said:
Even if that is the case what about just the overall water down display of football we get down here compared to other states the players down here at most schools especially at the inner city black schools the drive the passion the grit seems to be missing the coaches don't even communicate on the sideline no ntn
Miami Northwestern usually has very good crowd support. At least I know they did through 2008 when they were real good. Now that they are back, I would guess their support is up again.
Also, the game I attended at Dillard with BH, when we met up had a nice crowd, a very good band, and decent passion. What I saw missing there was a lack of upgraded facilities and overall control of the flow of the game by the coaching staff. But I saw a lot of talent on the field. This leads me to believe that it would not be too hard to turn the program around if all parties were willing to let that happen.
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7 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
You must really hate Columbia
Should we beat Lee in 2 days what will your response be?
Columbia, he ain't got no clue who wins this game. He just messing with you. He be a gadfly
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11 minutes ago, Sharkbait said:
In defense of some of the larger schools if your school is a long distance from where your students live or it is located in a neighborhood that may not be safe at night ( I'm talking about traffic more so than crime) then I understand attendance being lower.
In large, urban areas, both traffic and crime are potential issues. Still, in Orange County, there is usually a large police presence at most of the games, and, for the most part, they are generally safe. In my 19+ seasons of watching the high school game live, which has not just been limited to Apopka games but also to a majority of the schools in (Orange, Osceola and Seminole) and some in Lake, Volusia and Brevard, I have been in probably two or three situations that I found "uncomfortable." That's not bad considering I have watched over 250 games live in that time period.
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I see you picked Spruce Creek to win 8A 1. I know for a fact Spruce Creek is an average team. Does this mean Mandarin and Sandalwood are pretty bad this year? I have not followed either closely; hence the question. Apopka makes a trip up to Jacksonville to play Mandarin in a couple weeks.
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5 minutes ago, Sharkbait said:
I believe a school should have 3/4 of their students in attendance at all home games.
If Apopka got that kind of student support, we would have over 3,000 + at all home games. The students alone would make up well over 2,000 of the total.
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In years when Apopka makes a deep playoff run, by the second/third round home games have 5k fans with standing room only. This year they got monitors to analyze and teach in real time. Our field is grass, but is well maintained. But I get your point, overall football at the high school level in Florida is not well supported.
Part of the coaching deficit relates to the poor stipends paid. That leads to many good coaches leaving the state or jumping to college first chance they get.
If the raw talent was not here, Florida would be a mediocre football state due to the lack of investment.
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On 9/14/2017 at 4:25 PM, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Why would the teams in the north need to cancel week 11?
Some in the north have been able to play every week
I think he meant every week 11 game in that district, 16 7A. But the whole situation is fluid right now. Orange County has designated October 9th, which is a Monday, I believe, as a make up date, with the October 6th games (Friday) moved to October 5. But it seems that each county is doing its own thing. And, as for games between schools that are far apart, it now seems none of those will ever be made up.
Florida should consider beginning the football season the end of September instead of late August. Yes, I know that would move the season into January which would have an impact on seniors that are early college enrollees; however, beginning the season in August which is the middle of the rainy season and hurricane season, will, as often as not, perpetuate the problems we have this year, especially if we keep the new system for determining playoff teams.
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10 hours ago, Proseteye said:
They had the game score on Maxpreps. So, I don't know if that was a mistake or not.
Regardless, IMG had better clean up its act or both Central and Northwestern will have a good chance against them.
It's probably a mistake on the part of Maxpreps. They do that sometimes. If the game was played, there would be corroborating sources on the Internet. I could find none. So, the game was probably not played.
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3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Where you all seeing they played St Johns?
They cancelled game last night according to scorestream and prepgridiron board
I was just going by what Proset posted. I just checked and I see on High School football America that the game was listed as cancelled. Also, there are no comments about the game on the National Board. So, I am not sure where Proset got his information from. But if it is accurate, i am not surprised as I think they are beatable.
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I am totally not surprised with IMG losing. I saw them on film against both East Ridge in the Spring and, more importantly, Carol City in August. Yes, I know those were supposed to be "pretend games:; but I am sorry I just did not see what all the fuss was about. For a team that is as heavily recruited as IMG is, they should be better.
I think they lose three games this year.
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4 minutes ago, Brendan Johnson said:
I just joined the Florida HS Football forum thanks to Columbiafan introducing me to it. I need some more tips on starting on here though.
Discuss the region and teams you know, providing as much insight as you can. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask. There are some pretty knowledgeable posters on the board who are generally pretty helpful.
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1 minute ago, Cat_Scratch said:
MaxPreps and CalPreps agree that Viera is ranked above Vero.
Season is just getting started... plenty of time to figure it out.
I will say that I like both teams to make the playoffs and past the 2nd and 3rd rounds...
The only thing probably certain at this time is that Vero has a better chance of winning a state title, as St. Thomas Aquinas presents a far more formidable challenge than any of Vero's likely playoff opponents. Besides this, I will agree that both teams seem to be pretty good. But the season is young and has been disrupted pretty badly ... so who knows.
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Dillard, I think in Dade County a larger percentage of the talent goes to a handful of public schools (currently MNW, Central, and BTW, and more recently Southridge and Miami Carol City). Aside from Columbus and a couple smaller private schools, there is not as much competition for Dade talent in the private schools, particularly in the North end of the County where a high percentage of the Dade talent resides.
Yes, part of the problem is coaching at the publics in Broward, but that is not the biggest factor in my opinion. Coaches like Otis Grey have had success in the Broward public schools in the past.
Just my thoughts.