DarterBlue2
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1 hour ago, badbird said:
so how much will it cost to test every one every game?
More than the gate for many schools and for many sports.
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36 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Name the coaches that have led 3 different FL high school teams to a state final and the teams each coach led to a final?
Billy Rolle, Miami Northwestern twice, Killian once, and Southridge once.
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1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:
No need to refer to good folks on here as "trash." That is disrespectful.
I don't know what's wrong with little Jesse. He constantly craves attention but in the wrong way. Strikes me as a kid that did not make the cut for the team and must now somehow compensate for that by being a jerk on the message board.
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12 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Though you did not get it on the first try, I have high expectations of you Darter.
Orlando Evans, which tied Southridge in 1991, 20 years after Bishop Moore gave Orlando its first state title. If I am right, you are a tricky guy with a wry sense of humor.
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1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
You mean to tell me even as late as 1991 they didn't have OT for a state championship?
The FHSAA changed the rules after this game. I had just moved to the Orlando area the year before, and the grandson of a lady I stayed with for the first three months I was in the area, was a backup on that Evans team.
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4 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
To clarify, it wasn't the team that had a 20-year hiatus in the finals, it was the city in which the high school resides. In other words, this city went 20 years without a representative in the finals until the team in question made it. Sorry if that was not clear.
Titusville?
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2 hours ago, Perspective said:
They're a tricky bunch. I'm pretty sure that use more than one football on some of their plays.
Dang, the cat's out of the bag!
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1 hour ago, Perspective said:
17 running plays? Sounds like something Apopka would do. Actually, sounds like something Apopka did. Over and over.
Yeah, but we did not win a state championship that way. Besides which, most APK drives don't last 17 plays as there is usually a big 40 yard pickup on one of the plays!
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6 minutes ago, Perspective said:
Outlier or the first of many dominoes to fall?
Probably the first of many dominoes to fall given the recent uptick in Florida. I could see a few of the upper income public schools doing the same if they are allowed.
The risk is real, both to the kids and their families. Tough decisions will have to be made and the more informed are likely to err on the side of safety.
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19 minutes ago, Jambun82 said:
DarterBlue, do you think that Apopka could have given NW a more competitive result than Boone did in that 2007 title game?
Yes, I say this because Lake Brantley did the year before. My thoughts have nothing to do with the talent or fundamental coaching of the two teams. It has to do with three things.
Northwestern does not see single wing or for that matter triple option football down in south Florida. That right there would have been a touchdown in Apopka's favor. Also, on a team, not individual player basis, Apopka had more speed than Boone. The two Jeremy's Gallon and Wright, would have been good for at least an additional touchdown. Also, while I think from an X and O standpoint that Coach Z was probably Darlington's equal, I do think that when it came to trick plays, Darlington was a master. So, I would credit Apopka with a third touchdown.
At the end of the day, MNW would still have won as they just had too much talent and from that perspective were probably the best team in the country. I think a final score in MNW vs Apopka hypothetical match up that year would have been something like:
MNW 42 Apopka 21. Apopka's secondary would have had a lot of trouble defending Tommy Streeter and Aldarius Johnson.
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50 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
It's amazing how Sandalwood blows so much talent and rarely makes a deep run
Sandalwood eliminated Apopka in the second round that year coming from behind to win in the fourth quarter. Then the next week Lake Brantley beat them at Lake Brantley in a game where I thought the score did not reflect the actual run of play. I felt Brantley was at least 10 points better than that Sandalwood team on that night.
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On 6/23/2020 at 10:30 PM, Jambun82 said:
Was Lake Brantley a district runner up that season that they lost to NW in the state title game? I don't recall if it was the same year, but I remember in the first round of the playoffs, Lake Brantley putting a running clock on Deland at Spec Martin Stadium. I was thinking if the Patriots were the runners up in the district, I would have loved to see the district champion.
They were the district champions if my memory serves me correctly. But if they traveled to Deland for the first round, that does not make much sense.
NM - Badbird got it right. I forgot about the Oviedo loss which was a huge upset.
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1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Nice to see Boone had a good season a few years ago. They gave Wekiva all they could handle in the playoffs. Moving forward, maybe they will be one of those teams who puts together a contender every few years.
Boone is surrounded by significant football talent just outside its zoning border to the northwest (Jones kids), to the immediate north, some kids zoned for Edgewater, and, to a lesser extent, to its south, Oak Ridge zoned kids, most of whom now chose to go to Jones due to William's success at Jones. If Boone actively encouraged transfers (I probably did not say this delicately enough), and could pick up three to five of the more talented kids from nearby, they could be a deep playoff contender most years.
Playing with just what they have within the zone, the best the school could hope for is, as you suggested, a run every four or five years at best. In a sense it is unfortunate. It is a very nice place to take in a game, and the fan base turns out in droves when the team is decent. The Northwestern/Boone state title game drew one of the all time best crowds for a state title game. Boone's contribution to the crowd was probably at least 50% and you know the Bulls travels with largest south Florida crowd.
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2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Glad you got that one, Darter
. It is Boone, who was coached by Phil Ziglar at the time. I guess one could call Boone a 3-hit wonder, because they have not done much in football outside those years. Interesting to think a team could play in 3 state semis and never had to travel much more than 30 or so minutes.
Am sure you remember that Seminole team was led by Ray Ray Armstrong. And Jeremy Gallon, a guy we spoke about not too long ago in another post, was the Apopka qb. And Pat Dimarco, a future NFL player, caught the winning catch for Lake Brantley.
Actually, on one of the three runs, Boone traveled to Sarasota, Palm Beach County, and Palm Beach county again to get to the semifinal against Lake Brantley (which relatively speaking was a home game). I believe it was the first run in 2006 when they went 6/4 in the regular season before getting hot in the playoffs.
That Boone team 2006-2008 was blessed with its best overall sophomore class of all time. It took them some time to get their act together in 2006 but came of age in the playoffs and showed they were no fluke in 2007 and 2008. Boone has always been very well coached. Many of the assistants who are Ziglar alumni, have done fine coaching in the area, specifically at Timber Creek High. If Ziglar had had the talent at his disposal of a Darlington, Gierke or others, he would have been blessed with many, many deep playoff runs. A mark of his success is that back in the early 2000s he had the third highest number of former Boone players in the NFL (exceeded only by Evans and Apopka alumni) despite the fact Boone up to that time had never had a deep playoff run.
Yes, of course I remember Ray Ray, Gallon and DiMarco, all in their own right, Central Florida legends!
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13 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
This team played in 3 straight state semis, all of which were decided in the final 2 minutes of each game, all of which were decided by less than a touchdown, and all of which came down to the need for a defensive stop.
Who was the team?
Who was their coach?
Boone High School?
Phil Ziglar (Sp)?
2006, lost to Lake Brantley in one of the most exciting games I ever saw; 2007, beat Apopka in a heart breaker (if we had a kicker that year it would have gone to Overtime); 2008, lost to Seminole High when Seminole drove the length of the field to retake the lead in the final minute of the game.
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14 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
It was 2006 and Apopka won 9-6. Jeremy Gallon threw that TD pass. He went on to become a great wr at Michigan.
I remember now. Gallon was starting for the first time at Apopka that year and played mostly running back. Andy Summerlin was the regular Quarterback. The following year, Gallon took most of the snaps. And, yes, he went on to star at Michigan and if he had been about three inches taller, would probably have starred in the NFL as well. Gallon was an exceptional athlete. But due to his size, I always felt he would have been an even better soccer player had he been introduced to that sport. He was built quit a bit like Diego Maradonna the star forward from Argentina.
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2 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Very good, Darter. It was 2006 and Apopka won 9-6. Jeremy Gallon threw that TD pass. He went on to become a great wr at Michigan.
Lake Brantley knocked Edgewater out of the playoffs that year and went on to the state finals. Interestingly, Lake Brantley also beat Apopka that year during the regular season.
Lake Brantley beat Apopka in the first or second game of the season. I believe the score was either 3-0 or 6-0. Apopka squandered a couple of scoring opportunities on a wet evening. The game was very close, and could have gone either way. LB eventually lost to the Northwestern Bulls 35-14. The game was actually close at the half 21-14. However, Lake Brantley fumbled the ball away early in the third quarter, and the Bulls capitalized and scored. The game was effectively over at that point. That Bulls team was one of the best high school teams I have ever seen.
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2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Apopka once paid the #1-ranked 6A team in the state a regular season visit and came away with a dramatic victory capped by a halfback pass. That snapped a 5-game losing streak to this team.
Who was the team Apopka defeated?
Who threw that TD pass?
Apopka defeated Edgewater at Edgewater with the halfback pass. Edgewater's O line averaged 300 lbs that year.
I don't remember who threw the halfback pass, but I remember two Apopka receivers were wide open to receive it. Edgewater actually had the better of the game, but Apopka did a good job keeping them off the scoreboard. Darlington had recently returned to Apopka as HBC when this game took place.
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20 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
assuming football exists this fall, what are all the teams fielding a varsity team for the first time? Or starting football back up after a hiatus. So far True North was mentioned and Parrish Community will be playing varsity. The only other team i seen with a schedule formed was Somerset Academy South Homestead. Any else?
Side note, Somerset Academy Homestead will be the 5th team in South Florida with the Somerset Academy name. There is also........
Somerset Academy (Pembroke)
Somerset Academy Silver Palms (Miami)
Somerset Academy Key (Deerfield Beach)
Somerset Academy Canyons (Boynton Beach)
Private school or Charter school cluster?
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3 minutes ago, HornetFan said:
You're right. They list their team as a HS team, but they look like MS kids. The schools that have scheduled them are going to have to be careful not to seriously hurt them. Someone isn't being very responsible putting them against HS teams.
The kids may be tougher than they look. Time will tell.
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48 minutes ago, Perspective said:
Happy Father's Day to all the fathers and father-figures on this board.
It's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it, right?
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1 hour ago, badbird said:
I'm guessing it will be 0-0. Doom and gloom from Covid back on the way.
Sad, but probably true, and probably the right thing to do.
We did not make good enough use of the lock down time, in terms of testing and tracing. The demonstrations and people just ignoring safety rules have pretty much guaranteed that we won't have a second wave, as the first wave has never gone away. Yesterday, for the first time since early May there were over 30,000 new cases. And this is more troubling than you would think based on face value. For back in April and May, a high percentage of cases were coming from just two states: NY and NJ. Now the cases are way more spread out and: Florida, California, Texas and Arizona, specifically, seem to be the new hot spots.
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7 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Who says they the kings of SFL? Lol
They did lose head to head to Miami Central last time they played and Miami Central had as many state titles as STA this past decade
As for the question I'm gonna guess Miramar?
No, not Miramar. They were not elite in the 1980s.
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8 hours ago, Jambun82 said:
As others have stated the Stadium is too small, and parking would be a huge issue. The Stadium is just about right in the middle of downtown Deland. There is a layered DOT garage just South of the Stadium, but even that wouldn't solve the parking issue of the larger class games.
Stadium is a great home stadium for regular season and most playoff games. Deland High has a real good deal with it as their home stadium. But it's just too small for the title games and parking is a real issue.
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That is correct on all fronts. The Cypress Bay Apopka game was a classic!