Dan in Daytona
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2 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Yes do nothing. Went 20-14 playing mostly bad teams, and never got past the 2nd round. The problem I noticed on local message boards is a lot of people are delusional. Everything has to be so great and nothing can be criticized or you’re being mean. You have to detach your emotions when discussing reality. Get out of fantasy land. Be truthful even if it doesn’t feel good to.
..... a lot of people are delusional...
LOL, none more than you, my god
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1 minute ago, nolebull813 said:
Random meaning some team who has no history of playoff success. One good year in the last 2 decades. They don’t have a culture of success. That’s a random team.
Count the head coaches they have had ??? They win when they have "Quality" guys !!!
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
Crazy that Darlington can wreck shop for Apopka for years, then go to Alabama and do nothing, then come back to Florida and take some random team and turn them into a title contender overnight.
Again........take some random team.
Deland has great home grown talent. And whenever they have had great "color blind" coaching they have been a winner.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
Crazy that Darlington can wreck shop for Apopka for years, then go to Alabama and do nothing, then come back to Florida and take some random team and turn them into a title contender overnight.
Do nothing in Alabama ? Pretty flippant there Nolebull, even for your low standards. Check if he broke the Alabama season scoring record in one of those loser years ?
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Can't say I remember it well, but I do have the 1994 FHSAA Championship program to re-kick my fading memory. It was 1994 and Ocala Vanguard was lead by the biggest high school quarterback I had ever seen (to that point), 6'4" 220lb Daunte Culpepper. And they brought with them a huge vocal Ocala crowd to Daytona Beach. The only problem was their opponent , for the class 5A state championship was Bradenton-Southeast lead Hall of Fame Head coach Paul Maechtle (283 wins) and a defending 1993 state championship team. Under center for the Seminoles that night might have been the greatest Florida athlete to ever play quarterback, Peter Warrick (FSU, NFL 1st round pick-# 4 Cincinnati, Seattle). The game was close throughout and Vanguard was driving for the win but came up short. Can't remember ending !!! Southeast wins 19-17.*
* Complete game is on YouTube, if anyone is interested
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On 11/21/2023 at 1:53 PM, Vero Indian said:15 hours ago, Cat_Scratch said:
Looks like Darlington still knows the game well enough to knock off a heavy contender. Wasn't he called Shrek at FlaVarsit or was that his avatar?
Shrek was avatar, known as Sexy Beast, but that's between you and I.....(wink,wink)
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Another "opinion" on Lake Mary and it's very fine young quarterback Noah Grubbs after reading the excellent analysis from both "shedstar" and "KeenD321." No way on earth did I believe Lake Mary would overwhelm my revered Mainland Buccaneers 33-0 in our house. Their defense dominated in all phases, nothing else to say. Their offense was a different story. Young Grubbs was continually harassed, 5-22, for 127yds with numerous "throw aways" to avoid a sack. But he also threw three perfect touchdown passes on well covered receivers that were a thing of beauty. The big kid (6'4-5") has a powerful arm with the finesse of a varsity veteran. Their running back killed us by being about to get outside which isn't typical with our speedy defenders. He also was tough to bring down. He came out of the game a couple times after big hits. He was visibly limping in the 4th quarter. It's not hard to see how his absence greatly affected what they could do against a very good team like Mandarin..... Final thoughts on Noah Grubbs, tremendous upside, got the size, arm strength that was the gold standard for future college and NFL quarterback greats. But, both games are rapidly evolving. Speed Kills. Got to have movement to buy time, take less hits, and run for positive yardage when necessary. He didn't need his legs against my Bucs. At the next two levels it's beginning to be a "must have." Defensive coordinators don't miss much or they aren't around very long. Best to the young man. Glad to get a chance to see him.
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1 minute ago, Ray Icaza said:
Feelings are mutual regarding malice as well as gambling. If I were a gambling man, I would have to go against my heart and put my money on TC despite the fact I will be pulling for Deland for the simple reason of cheering for our geographical region. Looking at the top predictors left for the Nolebull picks, they seem to be leaning heavily towards TC which is why they have proven to be the most accurate during the regular season.
I have the same geographical feelings. Generally Cocoa and St Augustine High get the same, unless playing Mainland. Only since the hiring of Coach Darlington at Deland have my feelings changed towards the Bulldogs. I like the man. Deland always has talent. But when they field a team that "LOOKS" like Mainland West, then you know they're playing their best athletes. This wasn't always the case with weaker head coaches. And I'll take that "opinion" to the grave.
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1 hour ago, Ray Icaza said:
No hate implied my friend as I have reread my post in this thread and ask you to allude where that is coming from. Outside of this thread most have seem to given the edge to Deland before even the matchup had materialized, thus my comment. The title to your post "TEACHER vs STUDENT" and its consequent follow-up of MASTER vs APPRENTICE in particular, in my simple view implies an advantage of one over the other. Your questioning my response now shows that wasn't your intent and I can appreciate that just like the respect I described for Coach Darlington. With all that said it will now be quite interesting to see the picks and consequently the results.
No malice intended. Well... not a gambling man myself, but surely the home team TC is the favorite. Being a Daytona boy, Deland was always the enemy. Baseball, football, basketball, or track, it didn't matter. Getting robbed over there by the Ref's was to be expected, the norm. (Jambun excluded :) For years and years Bulldog87 and I threw team and personal insults back and forth on Rival's FlaVarsity message board. I'd like to say "our maturity" stopped the feud, but when Deland's football team went through 8-10 head coaches in about a decade and a half and their wins disappeared, so did he. That's my version, his might be a little different
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14 hours ago, KeemD321 said:
I'm not sure what happened but after actually looking into the Mandarin game in the regular season and Mainland game. I had a strong feeling that Mandarin would win. When they played in the regular season they held Noah Grubbs to his lowest output but their defense and running backs stepped up in a major way. I just felt that they would keep him contained again and wouldn't make the mistakes they made the first go around. Plus alot of area coaches picked up on some of his tells when it comes to him being pressured. That came from Mainland and a possible opponent for next season
Nice analysis KeemD, I think you're spot on. Shout out to the young QB Grubbs. What potential, and he still has two more years of high school ball.
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21 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:
Not quite sure why Deland seems to getting the love in this matchup. Can they win the game? Absolutely!! Is it likely? That is a whole other question as TC has the better SOS, the higher MaxPrep rankings and finally HOME FIELD advantage. It will be a 2 hour + road trip for Deland and that usually isn't a plus in your column when you have to get off that bus to play a physical team in their backyard. All I am saying is it will be no easy task.
The author has reread the original post and the two follow up responses before your "love" (Deland) comment. Please allude to where any love or favoritism toward Deland was suggested ? No hater here !
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Master vs Apprentice, Old (sorry Mr. Darlington) vs New, Single wing vs Single wing.
Don't have the dates, but at one time Deland's head coach Rick Darlington helped Treasure Coast's coaching staff incorporate it's now winning single-wing offense. Coach Darlington ran his version of Pop Warner's 1907 offense too perfection with three Florida state championships while coaching at Apopka High School. It's rarely seen today, on the gridiron, with all the high powered sideline to sideline shot gun spread passing offenses. There in lies it's uniqueness and difficulty to defend with only a week's worth of practice from game to game in a typical season. Two of Daytona Mainland's football greats Jeremy Bell , now head football coach at Atlantic High (Port Orange,Fl), and Antwaun Wyatt, son of NFL'er and Bethune-Cookman Hall of Fame player and head coach both were on T.C.'s staff during those early years of running the single-wing. This is a very intriguing match up. Particularly for my part of the state. Both coach Bell and coach Wyatt are 1st cousins, along with Mainland's head coach Travis Roland. It's all in the Daytona family.
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I'm not saying, but a picture is worth a thousand words....
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1 hour ago, badbird said:
go to 43:20 mark. Both players get 12 game suspension for this. Now go watch the Lakeland video and tell me why they didn't get more than 12 games?
Outside of the two "FLOPPS" by the white team , I didn't "see" much of anything out there. #old,blind,hard,of,hearing
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1 minute ago, nolebull813 said:
“After helping yourself with leftover thanksgiving Turkey Friday morning take a good look outside. Actually go outside. Smell the dew on the grass. Look left, look right. Take a great big breath. Exhale slowly. If playoff football is but a bicycles drive from where you dwell consider yourself lucky. You my friend are in a football hot spot. Do not take it for granted. There are millions of your fellow Floridians that do not have that luxury. They have moved onto other sports. The cleats have been hung up. Jerseys have been turned in. The tears from seniors realizing they will never play another down of football in their life have dried up. All of the lambs have been sacrificed. This is when the season actually starts. Enjoy it while you can”
Your transformation is startling, I'm breathless !
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3 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
So the system we are stuck with puts an embarrassing amount of bad teams in the playoffs. It’s disgusting and needs to change. So the first 2 rounds are used to do what the FHSAA should be doing which is weed out the bad ones from the good ones.
So after the 2nd round, once all the teams that shouldn’t have qualified are gone, look around. How much football do you see still being played around you? If it’s little to none, then you most likely are in an area that doesn’t have quality football to begin with. And that’s ok. The point of the exercise is to observe this and understand it.
who'd of thought, Nolebull the philosopher ?
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13 minutes ago, PinellasFB said:
I have a minority perspective on this subject apparently since the majority of us seem to be in the "kids are too soft today" category. My thoughts are a coach should never have a reason to strike a player. Grabbing a facemask or jersey to get their attention is not striking but it's a grey area I can tolerate. Striking players though shows a coach is out of control. A coach should always have a level head as there are many times during a game your players will drive you crazy. The biggest problem with coaches striking players is it rarely stops there. A coach who's willing to strike a player is going to bully and dominate them and make their lives a living hell. If you think it's just tough love you aren't looking at the person doing the striking. Who is so out of control that they would do that? You don't want that guy as the example your kids look up to how to handle adverse situations in this world. The coach should always lead by example.
Anyway, I know I'm in the minority here so it's cool if you disagree. Most of us all had this type of tough love when we played and we turned out okay, at least I think we did lol. It was also cool to get our brains scrambled with concussions back then. Today's era is different and we have to evolve with the times.
100% . A coach should NEVER strike a child in anger. The Bobby Knight type were and still are A-holes...RIP
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4 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:
You are smarter than you think. They are many highly educated people (I can vouch for this) that are deficient between the ears. An education gives one the trappings of being intelligent, but in reality, if you are born dumb, an education is not going to make you smart. It may make you more knowledgeable and it certainly opens up doors that would otherwise bel closed, but your overall intelligence is likely determined at conception barring exposure to something toxic like too much lead during the formative years.
Yes Professor......what homework, said little Danny.
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1 minute ago, DarterBlue2 said:
Dan, you and I will always be cool. In some sense we are brothers by a different mother.
Maybe, but I'm most definitely deficient between the ears, my brother
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1 minute ago, DarterBlue2 said:
Dan, such small errors at large clients were deemed: "de minimis" for evaluation purposes, and were rightfully disregarded.
An error in pairings or the exclusion of a worthy team altogether, is not insubstantial and warrants righteous indignation!
My best bet is that in many instances they factored "transportation costs and travel time" into several of the first round pairings. But if they are allowed to get away with that, it's a short journey to doing actual "untoward" things if we don't have transparency.
... and this is why you will always be my favorite Economist..... also the only one I will ever have the pleasure of knowing.
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3 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
About the final rankings and brackets for 4M, Region 2.
They truly don't make sense to me and are the poster child for why the ranking methodology needs to be fully revealed.
I haven't seen even keeled and unflappable DarterBlue this perplexed since, after several hair pulling hours, discovering a small transposition error for a Fortune 500 client.....oh man.
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For over taking Hollywood Chaminade and winning the FHSAA's final regular season title. Hats off to this perennial little powerhouse that will play anyone, anywhere. It's hard not to love those kids and their fabulous football program.
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Geez, is Lake Mary in Dade County ? I don't think so.....
Who picked TC over DeLand?
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Have a nice day......