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    h8r reacted to Ray Icaza in will they pay the coaches???   
    Just to be clear, no one was suggesting to base teachers pay on a poll of students.  To think that would be "Simple-minded" as you previously suggested.  It was simply an observation on the fact that they have that ability to discern, yet the administrator responsible and being compensated for their performance can't or won't.  Seems like an oxymoron to me as does the fact most school districts somehow manage to figure out among the thousands of teachers and dozens of separate schools who the "Teacher of the Year" is.  The criteria used in this selection process could be used to rate teachers on a three-tier system of above average, average and below average with corresponding compensation.  One can come up with all kinds of reasons why it won't work, but it really boils down to the union and teachers themselves.  With regards to the coaches pay, I recently read another article in the Orlando Sentinel written by sportswriter Chris Hays that this proposal isn't being considered in this years legislative agenda but not until next year.  He does accurately point out that one of the biggest obstacles to overcome is the teachers themselves not wanting to have said coaches compensated properly for the extra work. He states that they would revolt.  Sad when you think about it as for years I sit in the stands to many athletic events for OHS and rarely see teachers there to support one of their students or even their school at these activities.  Seems like at too many schools whatever we are doing today certainly isn't working.  
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    h8r reacted to Floridaatlantic1 in will they pay the coaches???   
    Most jobs dont require you to take homework home and grade papers and make lessons and then take classes to recertify and then take classes to try to earn a real wage either by getting a masters.  Plus alot of teachers coach and get paid very little for alot of work. A assistant fb coach usually gets around 3k for the following work. Spring ball 20 practices and 5 days for  conditioning. 4 days a week lifting in summer, 7 on 7 practices and tournament from Jan -April and then in summer again. Practice from august to mid November unless you make a run and go till December. If teaching is  such a great pay gig and easy job then why are 1 in 5 teachers leaving the profession or state to teach somewhere else. 
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    h8r reacted to Perspective in will they pay the coaches???   
    Hey, why can't we just have the FHSAA and MaxPreps come up with a secret formula to rate all the teachers and then pay them based on that? 
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    h8r reacted to THAT S--T WAS FUNNY in will they pay the coaches???   
    Nailed it. Those PE classes can have 50+ kids in them. Not an easy day of work for sure.
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    h8r reacted to Longtime Observer in will they pay the coaches???   
    Confession: I have no idea where/when/how a post qualifies as breaking rules on politics. It seems that each and every post in this thread could be considered political. 
    BUT, clearly, all that's being discussed is very much tied into high school football in the state. Like it or not, there are many ways in which politics and major issues affecting realms, often not considered political, overlap. 
    It's extremely difficult to fairly and accurately quantify "merit" for teachers. So much so that, the more certain one is that the process could be easy, the more certain we can be that they have no idea what they're talking about. That's not to say we shouldn't hold teachers to high standards. But, the job is hard enough, often for reasons completely out of the teacher's control, that finding enough teachers to run enough schools to educate all of the kids is itself a major challenge.  
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    h8r reacted to THAT S--T WAS FUNNY in will they pay the coaches???   
    I know a Dude that made 59K (teaching salary + asst ftb coaching stipend) in a school district in florida . He moved to georgia and is now making 98K (teaching salary + asst ftb coaching stipend). 
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    h8r got a reaction from gatorman-uf in will they pay the coaches???   
    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/09/possible-bill-would-mean-big-raise-for-florida-high-school-coaches/72896876007/]
     
    underpaid teachers, underpaid coaches, why in the world would this pass?  
    anyone want to make some extra money, start a high school coaches moving company.  get a couple uhual trucks and make a ton of money driving to georgia weekly.
    will be interesting to see if this thing were to pass, 
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    h8r reacted to Nulli Secundus in will they pay the coaches???   
    I'll believe it when I see it....  Damn shame it even has to come to this.  
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    h8r got a reaction from Ray Icaza in will they pay the coaches???   
    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/09/possible-bill-would-mean-big-raise-for-florida-high-school-coaches/72896876007/]
     
    underpaid teachers, underpaid coaches, why in the world would this pass?  
    anyone want to make some extra money, start a high school coaches moving company.  get a couple uhual trucks and make a ton of money driving to georgia weekly.
    will be interesting to see if this thing were to pass, 
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    h8r reacted to Floridaatlantic1 in final classifications?   
    The issue with the metro/suburb idea is it only really helped some elite suburb teams who already made it far in the playoffs get a state title.  It squeezed metro teams in divisions with huge enrollment differences as well, which was not fair. Finally, the whole change from population to population density stunk to the high heavens because it was not in original idea. I liked districts for playoffs much better than max preps secret sauce fhsaa formula. 
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    h8r reacted to Hwy17 in final classifications?   
    Get rid of classification, districts, etc. Allow schools to play up to 12 regular season games, all games count so no more kick off classics. Make your schedule as difficult or easy as you want. Use a power ranking system based on SOS to rank all teams. The top 8 make the playoffs.  Everyone else with 8 or more wins get a bowl game against a similarly ranked opponent. 
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    h8r reacted to Floridaatlantic1 in final classifications?   
    For all the crybabies posting on here. Explain why so much hate. Maybe you loved being able to thrown the best teams out of your division and let the metro teams beat the crap out of each other in that horrible system where the metro counties did not even go by population but some bs density rule. Its basically the same system we had for decades. Enrollment based classification. hello.  Go to promotion and demotion and hardly anybody would drop out. Let the cream of the crop ruse to top 3 divisions and rest fight it out for regional non-state titles below. The reason teams are dropping like flies is that they cant compete with the transfer recruiting cheating teams. Why would bad Orlando 7A teams want to compete with an all star team Edgewater? You will never get real change going by population alone and we all know it. So crybabies. What system do you want h8r?
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    h8r reacted to nolebull813 in final classifications?   
    It is a joke but the reason it’s a joke is because the amount of teams that went independent (which I love) still didn’t persuade these clowns to cut a classification and make sure there are no 2 and 3 team districts. 
     
    Any system that has 2 and 3 team districts is already dead on arrival. The FHSAA needs to dissolve 
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    h8r got a reaction from Hwy17 in New FHSAA Classifications   
    there are alot of public schools in the atlantic portion.
     Cocoa Beach 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Interlachen 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Paxon 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Stanton 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Space Coast 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Tradition Prep 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Lake Weir 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Sebastian River 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Bronson 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Bell High 0 0 0 .000 - 0  Coral Springs Charter I think sebastian river won this "state title" last year.
    can clearly see why, 
    I can also see why some independent teams would benefit going to this.
    as a large public high school, the aura of a state championship is way to alluring. 
    but lets be serious,,,, to win the "atlantic" state championship of the ssac is comical.  
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    h8r reacted to Dan in Daytona in New FHSAA Classifications   
    Hey, you got a problem with honky-tonk bars, Dollar Stores, and a 100 pump gas station featuring a "Wall of Beef Jerky ?" ( at $33 a lb. )  Geez, you just can't please folks these days. 
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    h8r got a reaction from Hwy17 in New FHSAA Classifications   
    Thanks capt obvious.
    Point being, it's a tattered and broken system that needs revamped, considering 2016 was the last time this specific way of doing things was done....
    Fhsaa never let's us down with their forward thinking!  Oops....I mean backward thinking....
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    h8r got a reaction from KeemD321 in New FHSAA Classifications   
    That's the Ludacris part......no local teams and drive to the Daytona area to play all your games....who wants to do that on a Friday afternoon. 
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    h8r got a reaction from KeemD321 in New FHSAA Classifications   
    some sheer ridiculousness going on
    take this one for example
    Auburndale 4A 2 7
    Jones (Orlando) 
    Lake Region (Eagle Lake)
    Lake Wales
     
    now why in the heck would downtown orlando have to travel to the middle of polk county and nowhere.  
    that is awful, to see lake wales and jones battle, not awful.  lots of dudes on the field.
    or this one
    Forest (Ocala) 6A 2 6
    Horizon (Winter Garden)
    Lake Minneola 
    South Lake (Groveland)
    how in gods name did ocala forest travel all the way to clermont/orlando, passing 
    this district
    Evans (Orlando) 6A 1 4
    Lake Howell (Winter Park)
    Oviedo 
    Wekiva (Apopka) 
    the sheer intelligence of the fhsaa seems to be one nobody would understand.  
    they literally put all the teams in order of attendance records and said ok, yall are kinda close in distance, boom.
    the rockledge one with all the daytona schools is just as ludacris
    what a joke
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    h8r got a reaction from Nulli Secundus in New FHSAA Classifications   
    some sheer ridiculousness going on
    take this one for example
    Auburndale 4A 2 7
    Jones (Orlando) 
    Lake Region (Eagle Lake)
    Lake Wales
     
    now why in the heck would downtown orlando have to travel to the middle of polk county and nowhere.  
    that is awful, to see lake wales and jones battle, not awful.  lots of dudes on the field.
    or this one
    Forest (Ocala) 6A 2 6
    Horizon (Winter Garden)
    Lake Minneola 
    South Lake (Groveland)
    how in gods name did ocala forest travel all the way to clermont/orlando, passing 
    this district
    Evans (Orlando) 6A 1 4
    Lake Howell (Winter Park)
    Oviedo 
    Wekiva (Apopka) 
    the sheer intelligence of the fhsaa seems to be one nobody would understand.  
    they literally put all the teams in order of attendance records and said ok, yall are kinda close in distance, boom.
    the rockledge one with all the daytona schools is just as ludacris
    what a joke
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    h8r got a reaction from KeemD321 in Projecting out the 2024 & 2025 FHSAA football classifications and districts   
    whos paying for their transportation?  you?  easy to say do this do that, but if your less than 500 kids in a school whats friday night football gate look like?  possibly packed, yes, but those funds pay for most other non revenue sports(swimming, tennis, etc).  so a 5 hour bus ride is expensive
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    h8r reacted to smashmouth80 in Projecting out the 2024 & 2025 FHSAA football classifications and districts   
    The 12 district model there is a lot of travel for district games. I could see some schools in the panhandle complain. 
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    h8r reacted to Dr. D in Projecting out the 2024 & 2025 FHSAA football classifications and districts   
    Still lots of 3-team districts in a 16-district model, so that's probably the one the FHSAA will go with.  Too bad an 8-district set-up won't be considered, but even a 12-district alignment would be an improvement.   Thanks for the work, Joshua. 
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    h8r got a reaction from TigerKing in Why the hurry to change the M,S,R system?   
    im simply just laughing at this, because of the most insane thing Ive read today, so far.  
    you said running clocks in most if not all of these sports
    baseball, softball, golf, bowling, volleyball.....SWIMMING!!!
    whatever it is that you had to drink to come up with this sheer nonsense, please enlighten the board, we all want to sip on that good good.
    FFS, 
     
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    h8r got a reaction from Cat_Scratch in Why the hurry to change the M,S,R system?   
    part of the proposal won 9-4, and then they dice up the rest of it.   
    I think they jumped the gun on squashing this new idea, some tweaks to it, but it really wasnt an awful idea with dist tournament in football. trying to find games would be the tall task for those dominate programs.  and then finding 2 games if you didnt make the tournament, also an interesting mess.
    a solution would be those 2 weeks if your not in, are mandatory district play.  have to have 8 team district, which is what everyone really wants, top 4 play for title, bottom 4 figure it out and play.
    i thought it was interesting to see they snuck in mandatory bye for everyone week 10 and play dist tourney 11 and 12....so schools would get 2 byes in the season....why?  week 10 in florida, no games.  smh...
    going backwards is A typical of the fhsaa, seriously, eveyrone hated the old way, most hate the new way, others would hate the proposed system.  
    cant please anyone or shouldnt even try to please anyone, figure it out and stand by it.
    maybe the board should be in charge of figuring it all out instead of just knocking holes in the plan.  some of them have zero business being on the board anyways.....
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    h8r got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Why the hurry to change the M,S,R system?   
    im simply just laughing at this, because of the most insane thing Ive read today, so far.  
    you said running clocks in most if not all of these sports
    baseball, softball, golf, bowling, volleyball.....SWIMMING!!!
    whatever it is that you had to drink to come up with this sheer nonsense, please enlighten the board, we all want to sip on that good good.
    FFS, 
     
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