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OldSchoolLion

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    OldSchoolLion reacted to gatorman-uf in Disney event 2019   
    Is there a really that much of a difference once you are in the 1000s range? I mean these teams are playing completely different in completely states with probably very little overlap. Promoters of high school football here in Florida have tried some of the marquee match-ups with 2-3 games on a Saturday. Stadiums don't get filled.
    The biggest shame is that with 3 professional football teams in the state (4 if you want to count the Orlando Apollos), that more isn't done in the community to promote football as a whole. The NFL should be requiring empty stadiums to be used early in the season for big Saturday promotion of games. Make the games free. 

    Imagine 2 games on a Friday Night and 3 games on a Saturday at TIAA Field (Jax), Raymond James (Tampa), and Hard Rock Hotel (Miami) with 10 of the biggest teams in the areas or criss cross areas. Imagine a Trinity Christian facing off against Mandarin in the night time game, or Miami Northwestern vs Miami Central, or Plant vs Lakeland. Needless to say, professional sports sometimes stink at being ambassadors of the game on a community level. 
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    OldSchoolLion reacted to VeniceIndiansFootball in Venice completed 2019 Schedule, big news!   
    Venice’s complete 2019 football schedule-
    Week 1- IMG Academy
    Week 2- @Saint Petersburg
    Week 3- @Vero Beach
    Week 4- Clearwater International
    Week 5- Riverview
    Week 6 @Sarasota
    Week 7- St Frances (Maryland)
    Week 8- Lakewood Ranch
    Week 9- Cocoa
    Week 10- Manatee
    If we get revenge on IMG and Vero this year we will have our revenge tour in 2019, lol. Any thoughts on this? And for you people that need a source,   https://mobile.twitter.com/john_p34?lang=en
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    OldSchoolLion reacted to Dan in Daytona in Willie must go...   
    First in the SEC, but not the south. I saw Eddie McAshan of the Gainsville Purple Hurricanes in 1967 at Memorial Stadium(Daytona) beat my future team (Mainland) in a nail biter killing Mainland's title possibilities. He was an elusive magician. He started for Georgia Tech. Wikipedia says Freddie Summers was the 1st southern black QB of a major school (Wake Forrest 1967). I've been spreading a lie about Eddie for over 50yrs. He was 2nd.......my bad   
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from peezy28 in Willie must go...   
    Y'know, Peezy, if New England didn't have so many white boyz on their offense they might be half decent 
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    In a manner of speaking, certain teams in 1A-4A are already being "required" to routinely play up during the regular season(because nobody of like size wants to play them).   It's well known this is happening, and it is being tolerated, but when it comes to the playoffs, only playing schools of the same approximate size is deemed "fair?"  Something about this logic is, well...illogical.
     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Guess they gotta play a schedule like that to be battle tested for Baldwin and St Joseph Academy in the 3A playoffs.
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Guess they gotta play a schedule like that to be battle tested for Baldwin and St Joseph Academy in the 3A playoffs.
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from ColumbiaHighFan2017class in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Yes, I get that way when I'm off my meds Jessica LOL.  Seriously, though, my sarcasm is a reflection of my disappointment some of our playoffs have become so predictable...almost anticlimactic.  This is the first time in history I can remember classifications in which the finalists have become a virtual lock at the start of the season, barring something extraordinary happening.  ...no intrigue. 
     
     
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    OldSchoolLion reacted to ColumbiaHighFan2017class in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Chaminade was a bigger lock for finals last year than this year lol
     
    And during that 2015 and 2016 years Trinity Christian was almost running clock favorite over rest of 3a north
     
    There really is a huge gap at the top of 3a compared to rest of the class, if you took Trinity, Chaminade and Clearwater Central Catholic out of 3a then 3a becomes much more competitive but would potentially lack star power (similar to 2a)
     
    This probably goes back to the idea that classifications by school enrollment doesn't exactly work in this day and age with competitive balance, something has to give and if we decide it's more important for classes to be competitive then we need new options to look at for how classes are broken down 
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from ColumbiaHighFan2017class in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Yes, I get that way when I'm off my meds Jessica LOL.  Seriously, though, my sarcasm is a reflection of my disappointment some of our playoffs have become so predictable...almost anticlimactic.  This is the first time in history I can remember classifications in which the finalists have become a virtual lock at the start of the season, barring something extraordinary happening.  ...no intrigue. 
     
     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in Future Issues at Chaminade-Madonna?   
    Looks like Chaminade-Madonna got two more transfers who are offensive lineman.  Of the 17 transfers I have listed above in the original post, all are juniors and seniors.  
    Sr OL Kristoff Pollas transferred from St Thomas Aquinas Jr OL Chris Giganti transferred from North Broward Prep
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    for some odd reason this video reminds me of 3A 
     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Guess they gotta play a schedule like that to be battle tested for Baldwin and St Joseph Academy in the 3A playoffs.
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    for some odd reason this video reminds me of 3A 
     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    In a manner of speaking, certain teams in 1A-4A are already being "required" to routinely play up during the regular season(because nobody of like size wants to play them).   It's well known this is happening, and it is being tolerated, but when it comes to the playoffs, only playing schools of the same approximate size is deemed "fair?"  Something about this logic is, well...illogical.
     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from KeemD321 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    ironic that teams like TC and Chaminade-Madonna can play some of the tougher regular season schedules of any team in the state, yet cannot play up in classification for state titles
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    for some odd reason this video reminds me of 3A 
     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
     
    I feel funny being an old guy saying this, but the concept of using student populations as the sole means of determining the classes is completely outdated and based on assumptions which held water many years ago, but no longer do.  We are living in a completely different world than 50 years ago.  
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
     
    I feel funny being an old guy saying this, but the concept of using student populations as the sole means of determining the classes is completely outdated and based on assumptions which held water many years ago, but no longer do.  We are living in a completely different world than 50 years ago.  
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    OldSchoolLion reacted to gwdrum75 in Lakeland vs Vero Beach Old School Video   
    Lakeland lost starting RB Cameron McCalpin in this game for the season with a broken foot. The running game didn't miss a beat as Earl Mothersill took over and proved himself as a power back.
    Polk county had some good teams back then with Lakeland, Bartow & Auburndale. Auburndale would be Lakeland's only loss that season as the Bloodhounds beat the Naughts 24-20 in OT.
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    OldSchoolLion reacted to SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    I strongly disagree with this statement, but respect your opinion. You're separating things as public and private, which is only one denominator. 1-4A is required to go find their own 10 game schedule. For the successful programs, that gets harder and harder every year.  

    If a 1A-4A school says, "Hey we want to play in 5A to ease the scheduling burden. We understand that all of those schools have more players to choose from since they have higher enrollment numbers"
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    Bishop Kenny, Bishop Moore, Bolles, Chaminade, Columbus, Jesuit, St Pete Catholic, St Thomas Aquinas, and Tampa Catholic all played in the upper classes in the 1970's when there were only 4 classes.  Of 40 state finalists in the upper classes during those 10 years, private schools appeared only twice in a final (Bishop Moore and Chaminade).  Only Bishop Moore won a title.  Chaminade had an excellent program back then and their coach, Vince Zappone, likely denied himself of more than one state title by insisting upon playing in the upper classes.  He considered it the honorable thing to do.  If the better private schools in Florida had been "playing up" all these years (where they belong in terms of parity), I highly doubt many of them would have nearly as many trophies in their cases.   If FHSAA is concerned about lack of parity, it should remember its early days of existence when it allowed schools to play up and things were much more balanced.   
      
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from gwdrum75 in Lakeland vs Vero Beach Old School Video   
    As always, credit to our friend for posting this great game on youtube. This regular season game in 1986, Lakeland's homecoming, featured two of 5A's best(5A was the largest class then)  ...so much for Lakeland historically dodging good competition during the regular season.  How many teams schedule the #2 ranked team in the state for their homecoming?  Vero returned to Lakeland later in the season and played the Naughts for the region title(Lakeland won that game 37-6).   Imagine the rivalry we could have today if these two teams had kept playing over the years.
    This was Lakeland's first state title team.  The Naughts made it to the state semis in 79, 82, and 84, and each time were knocked out by a team from Pensacola.  State champion Pensacola Woodham(school closed in 2007) came to Lakeland in 82 and 84 and took it to the home team.  The 80's were glory years for the Panhandle teams.
    Fort Walton Beach was ranked #1 in 5A at the time and did not even make the playoffs that year.  And some folks today complain about their teams getting left out of the playoffs!  LOL   Manatee was a powerhouse in the 80's, but eventual state finalist Dunedin knocked them out in the first round.  Dunedin shocked the world that year, going down to Miami and beating Carol City in the state semis to make the finals, where they lost a heartbreaker to Lakeland 14-10.  (FYI Carol City met Dunedin in the 5A semis in 87 and the Falcons won that one, too!)
    At the time, Northwestern, Carol City, Southridge and Columbus were all playing in 5A(only Southridge was ranked at the time of this game).  Needless to say, the 5A class back then was brutal.
    Bartow was the #1 ranked 3A team at the time and was playing down the road this same night against highly-ranked 4A Auburndale.  My how times have changed!
     
     
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    OldSchoolLion reacted to SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    3A is a top loaded classification that has 3 teams which will feature predominately in assorted small-school national rankings and 2 schools which are contenders to be in the top 50 for all teams in America.

    In order; JaxTCA, Chaminade and CCC.    The 2019 JaxTCA team is about 2-3 TD's better than the 2019 Chaminade team. The 2019 Chaminade team is about 2 TD's better than the 2019 CCC team.   CCC is 3-4 TD's better than the next 3A team.

    For 3A to become a truly competitive classification where it's "wide open", all 3 of those teams need to be moved to 5A.

    P.S- That's  GREAT video!



     
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    OldSchoolLion got a reaction from SPCjessica2004 in 2019 Trinity Christian schedule   
    for some odd reason this video reminds me of 3A 
     
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