OldSchoolLion

You should have given me 20 more minutes haha I forgot they used to be 2A. One whole less round of games to get to the semis 

That is also false... Playing out of state won't necessarily prepare them for games in state... Considering of Armwoods only 3 state titles (only 2 counted because the won in 2011 in the Ineligible Bowl with Central) they only played out of state once (Goreman in 2011) 
For Plant 4 state titles (keep in mind they have played out of state a whole lot
2011 - Played and beat Bergren Catholic (won title)
2006 - Did not play OOS (won title)
2008 - Did not play OOS (won title)
2009 - Did not play OOS (won title)
2010 - played OOS (got waxed by STA IN STATE)
2012 - played OOS (did not make finals)
2013 - played OOS (lost in semis)
2014 - played OOS (did not make finals)
2015 - played OOS (did not make finals)
2016 - played OOS (Against not a very good team) (got waxed by STA IN STATE)
2017 - Did not play OOS
 
There is no correlation to playing out of state and winning a state title for them... If anything when they started that trend titles went away... Would probably help more if they could play in state against competitive teams week over week in an open division instead of playing teams like Leto, Blake, Middleton and neighborhood Rival Robinson. 

It may be sheer coincidence....or maybe not.... 
STA did not win a state title between 2000-2006...their driest spell since 1990....years Mark Guandolo was at Chaminade.  
Between 2007 and 2011,  STA won 3 state titles, their best stretch to date.  None of the other private schools in Broward were doing anything those years.
 

People wanted this game very badly about 15 years ago when Mark Guandolo was at Chaminade-Madonna.  The word on the street was that STA had everything to lose and nothing to gain by playing them.  I guess the thought was that if STA beat Chaminade people would say it was expected and no big deal, but if they lost, it would be an upset.  

"Punishment" is one way to look at it.  The other way is to look at being in the top division as one of prestige.  In England, the top soccer league is the Premier League.  There is a lot of prestige to be in that league.  Many would rather see their club be middle of the pack in that league than at the top of the lower league.   

People wanted this game very badly about 15 years ago when Mark Guandolo was at Chaminade-Madonna.  The word on the street was that STA had everything to lose and nothing to gain by playing them.  I guess the thought was that if STA beat Chaminade people would say it was expected and no big deal, but if they lost, it would be an upset.  

I think the first 2 FSU High School games (Ft. White vs Florida High and Taylor County vs Florida High) were also very competitive games. CCC/TC and Chaminade/Oxbridge were competitive as well. So, I'd say 4 of the 15..but your point is well taken.

I see TC as a 7-3 type team this year. If they can find a way to upset Crestview on the road, then 8-2 is achievable, but that's going to be a tough task without some help. I think they have enough star power at running back (Caleb Tate, Jalen Bussey) and enough at WR (Chris Murray, DJ Taylor) to have a successful season, but the region is to strong to simply run the ball without a semblance of a passing attack week in and week out.

As far as the CCC/TC game last year- the playoff game was a classic and made up for the dud earlier in the year when CCC won TC 25-0. You have to go back quite a few years to find the last time the road team won in that series. 

All of that said- I forsee north 3A being far more competitive than south 3a. But your 3A finals is going to be the biggest blowout in recent FHSAA finals history... Chaminade is simply too deep to be playing in 3A a








 

Pahokee actually record from 2015-17 is 30-6
2015 8-3
2016 14-0 (if you are not taking the games)
2017 8-3

Some of the single wing philosophy's strengths are that opposing coaches often underestimate its' complexity, thinking that because the offense was first developed in the early 1900's that it is simple. Another is that opposing coaching staffs have usually only three days to attempt to replicate in practice, with scout team players no less, the single wing... and really it just can't be done - so their defense will get it's first real look on the game field. They're playing catch-up from the outset of the game.

Is Lake Wales one?

How about North Marion?

"Important" is a subjective term, ColumbiaFan.  Only an individual can decide what his biggest victory is in life.       

...some additional data...south FL vs central FL state final result in the biggest classification over the past 30 years...winner in bold
1989 Carol City v Manatee
1990 Southridge v Evans (tie-shared title)
1992 Dillard v Manatee
1993 Southridge v Manatee
1996 Carol City v Hillsborough 
1998 Northwestern v Southeast
1999 Dillard v Palm Bay
2001 Northwestern v Apopka
2002 Norland v Edgewater
2003 Carol City v Edgewater
2004 Killian v Edgewater
2006 Northwestern v Lake Brantley
2007 Northwestern v Boone
2008 Northwestern v Seminole
2009 Miramar v Deland
2010 Central v Dr Phillips 7-2
2011 Miramar v Plant
2012 Cypress Bay v Apopka
2013 South Dade v Apopka
2014 Columbus v Apopka
2015 Flanagan v Osceola
2016 Southridge v Dr Phillips
2017 Atlantic v Dr Phillips

The most thrilling game I remember was not a championship game.  It was a game that involved the need to overcome incredible odds.  Adversity defines a man as well as a team...and it does not always come at one's most glorious moment in life.  

I would love for us to run that offense since having no true qb is wat we excel in lol

Godby
the L to cocoa and the W against immokalee

In my opinion, the Orlando area would have won more games. Of course I am biased. However, let me say that I feel Apopka, Osceola and Dr. Phillips, for sure, would have had solid winning records against the South Florida schools. I also feel that the remaining 4 Orlando area schools would have split 50/50 or come very close to 50/50 against the South Florida teams.
Why? In the case of Apopka, its single wing offense would give the South Florida teams fits, at least for the first two of the three years. With respect to DP and Osceola, they have just had really, really good teams each of the past three years. I feel 2016 Seminole was an excellent team, and that 2017 and 2016 Wekiva had stellar defenses. I am also fairly confident that Boone and Winter Park would have won enough games (even if not 50%) to ensure the Orlando area got over the hump the past three years. 

It is getting quite confusing.  There are schools like Mater Academy and Doral Academy in Miami-Dade, which sound like private schools, but are actually part of the public school system.  

It is getting quite confusing.  There are schools like Mater Academy and Doral Academy in Miami-Dade, which sound like private schools, but are actually part of the public school system.  

If you put all of the 1A-4A public schools in the Panhandle together in one class, it would probably be quite competitive.  I believe a lot of those schools play each other during the regular season anyway, and the smaller schools sometimes have the upper hand.      

If you put all of the 1A-4A public schools in the Panhandle together in one class, it would probably be quite competitive.  I believe a lot of those schools play each other during the regular season anyway, and the smaller schools sometimes have the upper hand.      

As you are probably aware, there are only a handful of public teams in 3A and 2A.  
3A
Baldwin-R1
Florida High-R1
Fort White-R1
Newberry-R1
Taylor County-R1
Taylor(Pierson)-R2
Marathon - R4
2A
FAMU-R1
Moore Haven-R4

Deerfield has 28 wins not 31. maxpreps is wrong for 2016.  They have them winning games in March

Palm Beach/Broward/Miami-Dade 3-Season Comparison (using data from past 3 seasons)
Public schools with 3 straight winning seasons:
Palm Beach 4/22 teams (Atlantic, Dwyer, Glades Central, Pahokee)
Broward 1/29 teams (Deerfield Beach)
Miami-Dade 6/36 teams (Carol City, Central, Doral, Mater, Reagan, Southridge)
 
Public schools with 20 or more wins:
Palm Beach 5/22 teams
Broward 7/29 teams 
Miami-Dade 11/36 teams
 
Private schools with 20 or more wins:
Palm Beach 2/8 teams
Broward 9/10 teams 
Miami-Dade 3/7 teams
 
Private Schools Combined Records:
Palm Beach 134-101 (57% winning percentage)
Broward 255-92 (74% winning percentage)
Miami-Dade 151-97-1 (61% winning percentage)

Venice 36-4