VeniceIndianFan

Hey @Floridaatlantic1 . This idea has been floated a couple of times on here and I thought it was interesting. How about:
Instead of Metro/Suburban, public/private, transfer-based classes, or even promotion/demotion, the FHSAA broke the state into only 3 parts. North, Central, and South. Put all of the South Florida juggernauts into their own classification and let them play for 1 championship. Combine the North Florida rural schools and let them play for one championship while Central Florida combines to one class and plays for the final state championship. Playoff seeding will be determined by districts comprised of no fewer than 4 teams as well as SOS. At the end of the season, the winner of the "North" classification, would play the winner of the "Central" classification. Afterward, the winner of that game would play the winner of the "South" classification. And for once, we would have one "true" undisputed state champion. 

It's possible that they find their stride by week 5, but at the moment we just don't have the on-paper talent to compete with teams like Miami NW, IMG National, Cocoa, or Bishop Verot. If Venice can find a way to go 7-3 with that schedule I would be happy

It's possible that they find their stride by week 5, but at the moment we just don't have the on-paper talent to compete with teams like Miami NW, IMG National, Cocoa, or Bishop Verot. If Venice can find a way to go 7-3 with that schedule I would be happy

Cardinal Mooney 
 

History is a fascinating subject which is often recounted from very different perspectives in different countries and in different periods of time. But it does not put food on the table and pay a mortgage unless you take it to its natural conclusion with a PHD.
Back when I was your age, once you completed your Bachelors, you were generally able to get your graduate studies paid for from a combination of: scholarships, fellowships, and research assistantships when you enrolled in a Doctoral program, provided you kept your grades up when doing the course work, and kept on track when writing your dissertation. Today, that path is more difficult, though still possible as it is more costly and fewer financial aid opportunities exist.
But determination and hard work usually end with the completion of goals, be it a state championship or a PHD. So, I admonish you to keep your head up and grind away if you really want to go in the path you outlined.   
Though I don't have a dog in this race, GO INDIANS!

Just to piggy back on Darter's advice, History is a fabulous subject matter to study and there are so many areas world wide you can focus your interests. But you are talking Florida teacher salary here unless your end goal is a very expensive, difficult, and time consuming  PHD. Salary isn't everything and having a job and career you love and enjoy can be special. Just be careful with the choices you make. Best to you young man. You've got the whole world in front of you. Peace.   

@Nulli Secundus and @DarterBlue2, thank you for the kind words. I attended a community for two years and have completed an AA, whatever that's worth. However, I am taking time to work now before furthering my education. Unfortunately, the cost of continuing is very prohibitive, especially for a 21-year-old college student without a scholarship left to fall back on. I want to major in history, as that topic has always been a fascination of mine. Regardless, excited to see what the future holds (and hopefully, a Venice victory about 6 days from now, which is all I really want for Christmas anyway. ) 

Ah, you can commence anytime!  However, how many times can you see Venice lose to Lakeland two years in a row?
Seriously, congratulations on your perseverance and completion!  That is a major accomplishment and I hope you wear it proudly.  Soooo are you going to grad school or are you done?  

Despite the sad face, congrats on graduating from college. Hopefully, the transition to work and adult responsibilities is a relatively smooth one. 
Pity you could not make the game, this will likely be Venice's fourth title if my memory is correct.  

No, I think they have an 89-year-old this time. 

I don’t think it will be a blowout, though Venice will absolutely be favored. It’s going to take everything Lakeland has to deny one of Venice’s best teams ever from winning the 4S state championship. 
This is the matchup we wanted. We owe you guys a beatdown for what happened last year. One fluke touchdown before the half and it’s another trophy on our shelf. We will never forget that, least of all the kids whom were on this team last year. 
 
Nobody since Cocoa in week 2 has had an answer for Venice’s offense. The continuity between our offensive line and running backs has really paved the way for where we are now. Defensive line is starting to gel at the right time, as evidenced by the way they dominated DeLand’s offense after the first drive (which really surprised me.) The experience in the secondary has paid dividends in a huge way. 
 
This is going to be Lakeland’s toughest test of the year. Do you have answers for Venice’s phenomenal rushing attack? Can you stop our receiving corps, where we have 4 guys that can take it the distance at a moment’s notice? Can you contain Glasser when he takes off, or defend the numerous trick plays?  
 
And on defense, can you crack Venice’s secondary? Will you be able to run and try to slow the game down to keep our offense off the field? These are all questions that need to be answered before Saturday. Tick Tock Lakeland, you’re on the clock! GO INDIANS!!! 
 
 

I don’t think it will be a blowout, though Venice will absolutely be favored. It’s going to take everything Lakeland has to deny one of Venice’s best teams ever from winning the 4S state championship. 
This is the matchup we wanted. We owe you guys a beatdown for what happened last year. One fluke touchdown before the half and it’s another trophy on our shelf. We will never forget that, least of all the kids whom were on this team last year. 
 
Nobody since Cocoa in week 2 has had an answer for Venice’s offense. The continuity between our offensive line and running backs has really paved the way for where we are now. Defensive line is starting to gel at the right time, as evidenced by the way they dominated DeLand’s offense after the first drive (which really surprised me.) The experience in the secondary has paid dividends in a huge way. 
 
This is going to be Lakeland’s toughest test of the year. Do you have answers for Venice’s phenomenal rushing attack? Can you stop our receiving corps, where we have 4 guys that can take it the distance at a moment’s notice? Can you contain Glasser when he takes off, or defend the numerous trick plays?  
 
And on defense, can you crack Venice’s secondary? Will you be able to run and try to slow the game down to keep our offense off the field? These are all questions that need to be answered before Saturday. Tick Tock Lakeland, you’re on the clock! GO INDIANS!!! 
 
 

I would love to head up there and meet you, but my college graduation actually falls on the day the game is going to be played. I will be lucky to even get home in time to pay for the stream. 

No, I think they have an 89-year-old this time. 

Will Venice's 90 year-old refs be doing the game? 

It’s just some playful banter and trash talk. We are not overlooking Lakeland at all. We know what they are capable of.   The war of words begins now and continues until Saturday at 7:59 pm. @Nulli Secundus and I have been at it all day on Scorestream! Lmao 

It’s just some playful banter and trash talk. We are not overlooking Lakeland at all. We know what they are capable of.   The war of words begins now and continues until Saturday at 7:59 pm. @Nulli Secundus and I have been at it all day on Scorestream! Lmao 

I agree with you. Venice wins this year and probably by double digits. They are not as good as 2021, but not far from that level. 

On paper, DeLand is actually built perfectly to beat Venice because they run the single wing-t offense. If Venice makes one mistake (a fumble, interception, etc,) they could easily take 6 minutes or more off of the clock. If DeLand wins the coin toss I fully expect them to receive first and try to take the first quarter off of the clock. 
Venice hasn't seen much of the single wing-t offense. They played Naples in the Spring Game and in the 2022 regular season, who runs slip halfback veer offense (not the same as DeLand, but similar,) and it gave us trouble both times. Also, keep in mind that Naples *didn't* have a legend on the sideline running their offense, DeLand does. Venice's defensive line this year has been their weakness and isn't really set up to stop an offense that will carry the ball 50 times a game. Just food for thought. 
 
 
 

On paper, DeLand is actually built perfectly to beat Venice because they run the single wing-t offense. If Venice makes one mistake (a fumble, interception, etc,) they could easily take 6 minutes or more off of the clock. If DeLand wins the coin toss I fully expect them to receive first and try to take the first quarter off of the clock. 
Venice hasn't seen much of the single wing-t offense. They played Naples in the Spring Game and in the 2022 regular season, who runs slip halfback veer offense (not the same as DeLand, but similar,) and it gave us trouble both times. Also, keep in mind that Naples *didn't* have a legend on the sideline running their offense, DeLand does. Venice's defensive line this year has been their weakness and isn't really set up to stop an offense that will carry the ball 50 times a game. Just food for thought. 
 
 
 

What happened to MC this season is the inevitability of all teams.  Sooner or later, the mighty do fall.  How far and how fast remains to be seen.  The sun rises and sets on all programs and many will experience dark, stormy weather along the way.  To answer your question, it's hard to become the team to beat and even harder to maintain that status.

First post here, lurker for several years. Watcher of Dade / Broward football for about 15 years or so. I saw the Chaminade game and both Norland games in person. The Central defense was just not as suffocating as it has been during the championship run. Over the past few years they were capable of shutting nearly everybody including the better teams. They gave up too many big plays. On the offensive side they never found an identity, swapping qb's constantly.  I wasn't sure if Central could come back from down 28-7 but they did and were a blocked field goal on the last play of regulation to win it and todays story would be how Central revenged a regular season loss.
That said they played those teams to a field goal game each time. With a better kicker maybe they win at least two if those games.

Can't say I remember it well, but I do have the 1994 FHSAA Championship program to re-kick my fading memory. It was 1994 and Ocala Vanguard was lead by the biggest high school quarterback I had ever seen (to that point), 6'4" 220lb Daunte Culpepper. And they brought with them a huge vocal Ocala crowd to Daytona Beach. The only problem was their opponent , for the class 5A state championship was Bradenton-Southeast lead Hall of Fame Head coach Paul Maechtle (283 wins) and a defending 1993 state championship team. Under center for the Seminoles that night might have been the greatest Florida athlete to ever play quarterback, Peter Warrick (FSU, NFL 1st round pick-# 4 Cincinnati, Seattle). The game was close throughout and Vanguard was driving for the win but came up short. Can't remember ending !!!  Southeast wins 19-17.*
* Complete game is on YouTube, if anyone is interested  
 

Vanguard beating Lake Wales 52-15 was the surprise of the night. I thought Vanguard would win by a score of 24-17 or similar to avenge last year's loss; not a thorough domination from start to finish. Those kids in Vanguard have to be very excited right now. 

This Central team isn't the same from last year. The first match up against Norland Central lost and was leading like 20-0 at half. I said to myself what in the heck is happening then thought to myself maybe it's just a fluke, but the second match up Central lost again. We have to sit back and give Norland their credit they're as good as advertised this year.
Miami football is so different and at any given moment someone can beat you. Norland has not been to states and won since 2011 and from then they've been horrible and nobody was talking about them. I just hope Norland wins it all and bring that trophy back to Miami and if so this would make three state titles.
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