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  2. This week's FHSAA MaxPreps rankings

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    1 minute ago, PinellasFB said:

    Prediction model uses margin of victory, I presume?  Right now, without MoV in the rankings, the rankings are garbage.  At the end of the year they will get better but still need MoV for a power ranking, which what this is supposed to be.  It sounds like FHSAA in their mathematical non-wisdom still chooses to eliminate the SINGLE BIGGEST ACCURACY FACTOR in any power rankings.  Elo Chess, which is a ranking system based upon W-L record only, requires thousands and thousands of games (chess matches) to converge to an acceptable confidence interval.  You only get 10 games in a season and not even close to a sufficient number of games to become accurate.

    Well said . . . although this may be the first time I can recall seeing a "chess" reference on a high school football message board.   :P

  6. Class Top 5's Week 5

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    2 hours ago, SportsFan said:

    Could you explain the decision for Buchholz to move into the top 5 of 6A coming off back to back losses?

    My hunch (which isn't worth much lately) is that "quality losses" can have more value than beat-downs of inferior teams.  

    Just a guess. 

  7. Lakeland moving game to tomorrow because of the Hurricane potential.

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    I know this falls into the category of "it ain't going to make any difference," as these two teams could play on one days rest or three weeks rest and it won't affect the outcome of the game, but three days rest for a district game is a pretty short turn-around (speaking of "safety first").  Why wouldn't they at least play on Wednesday night?  Tropical storm force winds aren't expected tor each the Tampa Bay/central Florida area until Thursday morning, at the earliest.  (And, yes, I could be one of those 'turning-into-your-parents' guys on the latest ad where they're talking about the weather).  B)

  8. Week 5 pick ems crying room. (Join me)

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    I pIcked Norland over Chaminade.  (Quoting Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman:  "Big mistake. Big. Huge.")

    I picked Osceola over Jones.  Apparently, if the Osceola coach had managed the clock a little better or if the young QB hadn't taken a knee on 4th down to stop the clock, Osceola might have had the chance to kick a FG for the win . . . so, close, but no cigar. 

    I picked an undefeated 5A Atlantic Delray over an undefeated 1A First Academy.  50/50 game and it went the wrong way for me. 

    I had Edgewater over Apopka until about a minute before I posted my picks.   I don't know why I changed my mind, but that was a bad hunch. 

    I had Bishop Verot over Cardinal Mooney.   But, so did everyone else, I think, so nothing lost there. 

    I picked 4A Port Charlotte over 1A Naples First Baptist in the game I knew the least about . . . and it showed. 

    In my second hunch game, I picked Columbia over Jax TC and they game up a TD short. 

    In my third hunch game, I picked Buchholz to rebound and win a big road game up in Georgia, but, alas, the Bobcats came up a TD short, as well. 

    Julian, feel free to rename this thread the "Week 5 Pick 'Ems Whining Room."  :P

  10. FINAL CHAMINADE 45 MIAMI NORLAND 20

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    Speaking of MNW, what happened to their scheduled game last night vs. Columbus?  At least that was one of the Thursday games in Pick 'Ems.   But when I look on Columbus' schedule now, I don't see a game for this week.  The game doesn't show up on MNW's schedule either.  But the game had to be on one of the two schedules earlier this week, as that's the only way I would have known that MNW was the home team. 

  11. JONES DEFEATS OHS KOWBOYS IN OT 34-28

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    2 hours ago, Jullian said:

    Kowboys was one of my picks this week. Thought their resume’ looked good enough to beat Jones, especially having only given up 21 points to Lake Mary. Also jones lackluster performance vs Evans & a down Edgewater. Osceola has improved from last year & looks like a tough out in the postseason. Started my picks 0-2 & looks to get worse today……lol

    You and me both Julian.   You and me both. 

  12. Week 5 Pick ems (Thursday Games)

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    Miami Central

    Norland  (Thursday)

    Osceola  (Thursday)

    Venice 

     MNW (Thursday)

    Atlantic Delray

    Apopka

    Bishop Verot

    Sanford Seminole 

    Port Charlotte

    Dillard

    Eau Gallie

    Lincoln

    Columbia

    Buchholz

    Cardinal Gibbons 

    Nease

    Vanguard

    Bolles

    Tampa Bay Tech (but don't be surprised if Gaither pulls out a home win)

     

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  14. Class Top 5's Week 4

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    2 minutes ago, SportsFan said:

    I also see where athletics is currently shifting to a more private format and I'm getting a leg up and moving on that because personally I think high school athletics as we know it will soon be extinct or severely endangered and replaced by a more private format as that's what the current state leadership wants 

    The pendulum swings until it reaches a certain point, and then the pendulum swings back.   That's the way of the world.

  15. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    34 minutes ago, SportsFan said:

    The FHSAA is run currently by the same people who pushed for school choice 

     
     

     

    Maybe the old FHSAA but the new one won't punish them 

     

    Hell they may give them a medal for it 

    Are you referring to the current Board or to the staff?    Wouldn't this be a staff issue?

  17. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    1 hour ago, PinellasFB said:

    If you get 30 new players in, there is no way recruiting isn't happening.  Violations like a "free lunch" is minor, but rides to school/practice sounds like no big deal but that is exactly how HS recruiting is done for kids who live far away from the school.  

    Just remember, it wasn't all the mob activity that got Al Capone in trouble; he went to prison for tax evasion.  Sometimes it's the little things (that are easier to prove) that get you in trouble. 

  18. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    1 hour ago, Nulli Secundus said:

    Here's another link:  FHSAA finds The First Academy football program guilty of rules violations: Report

    Thanks.  So, it sounds like First Academy committed some of those technical, smechnical violations.  You know, some of those rules that everyone else has to follow.  But it also sounds like the defense is that 'we should be allowed to commit those violations and break those rules because otherwise, well, otherwise, football players wouldn't get the food they need or have rides home.'  I'll let this one play out and see where it lands.  

    But, I can tell you this much:  when you get 30 transfers into your school to play football, you need to recognize that you're going to be walking around with a target on your back and you better make sure that you do everything possible to avoid the appearance of impropriety.    

  20. State championship locations for 2024

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    32 minutes ago, Mark18292 said:

    Where will states for 1A-7A be held at this year? I’ve heard a lot about FIU but I was thinking about if they would maybe want to go back to camping world stadium in Orlando.

    This topic gets a lot of attention on this board.   You can scroll back and see the discussions that have taken place. 

    As for now, as I understand it, the only state championship site that has been announced is The Villages for the Rural classification.  The location of all the other state championship games in still "TBA."   (Because why would anyone need to know this before Thanksgiving?). 

  21. ** WEEK 4 PICK THEMS **

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    Ely

    Columbus  

    Cardinal Gibbons

    Sanford Seminole  (I had a heavy lean towards Seminole early in the week, in part because MaxPreps showed Monarch playing Deerfield Beach on Tuesday of this week -- perhaps a continuation of a game that got suspended? I don't know, but I know what I saw.  Now, MaxPreps shows that Monarch beat Deerfield Beach 8-0 on 8/29.  WTF?   Regardless, I decided to stick with my original pick). 

    Northwestern

    Palm Beach Central

    Columbia  (Is it really an upset if a 2-1 4A school beats a 2-1 Rural team at home?)

    Tampa Bay Tech  (would prefer otherwise, but going with my head)

    Coffee 

    Mandarin

    American Heritage 

    South Sumter  (This one has me confused.  An undefeated 6A team vs. a 2-loss 3A team, but it looks like I'm not alone in picking SS). 

  25. Class Top 5's Week 3

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    1 hour ago, CoachGraham said:

    I am not sure why that is. I'll look into it. Is it on all of my posts?

    I don't believe so.  It wasn't on your reply to my post.   Are you writing your initial post somewhere else and then 'copying and pasting it' into this forum?    Just a thought. 

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