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What was with all the Thursday night games? Shared-field arrangements? Weather?
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with a bunch of average teams making the playoffs.
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- Hwy17 and gatorman-uf
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3 hours ago, Floridatech said:
They are because a friend told me bout them if u want mo info u can inbox me
A friend told me that Tampa Bay Tech would beat Armwood this year and we all know how that turned out.
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11 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/high-schools/2019/10/15/gulf-high-cancels-remainder-of-football-season-due-to-injuries/
I know nobody will care that an 0-7 team that scored a total of 14 points for the entire season ended early, but this is what I mean when I say the sport might end up dying because we don't allow fair competition. Look Gulf is bad, last week they lost to Tarpon Springs who has given up 50+ points in 5 of their 6 losses (42 in the other). Tarpon Springs had scored a total of 7 points before winning 20-0. Gulf is 14-85 in the last 9 seasons (technically 14-88 if the rest count as forfeits) or .159 Winning Percentage. If you count boys soccer, basketball, and baseball over the past 9 season the schools is 118-411-14 or .299 Winning percentage across the other team sports.
If you are a Head Coach, Athletic Director, Principal, or Superintendent, how do you fix this culture of losing at a school?Do what Dunedin did.
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Or when you swing by the office Thursday morning before heading to the airport and just as you're about to walk out the door, you remember you have to get your picks in before you leave. And your wife is texting you again asking why you're not already home to pick her up . . .
- Cat_Scratch and KeemD321
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Interestingly, but perhaps not all that surprisingly, I've talked with several Hillsborough folks (including coaches) who feel the exact same way about the refs at the Lakeland games.
I guess hometown cooking goes both ways. Or maybe it just feels that way because of our own inherent biases.
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Madison County
Columbia
Tampa Bay Tech
Boca Ciega
Flagler Palm Coast
Apopka
Treasure Coast
Columbus
Colquitt County, Ga.
Berkeley Prep
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15 hours ago, Joshua Wilson said:
Records are pretty solid... plus Dixie Hollins... really interesting district right now in 6A-8
Plus, this will be an interesting test for Boca Ciega's RB (Chris Phillips), who had a pretty good stat line last week against Countryside:
8 carries, 350 rushing yards (43.8 yards a carry average) and 5 rushing TD's. Not a bad Friday night.
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Just a thought: since teams have no control over scheduling the other teams within their district (and zero control over the non-district schedules of the teams they play against and the teams those teams play against), what about a hybrid formula. District winners fill the top 4 spots (in the large classes) and then use RPI from non-district games to determine seeding and wildcard teams.
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1 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, FL) 4 14 0.781 5-0-0 1.000 0.687 0.635 2 Edgewater (Orlando, FL) 1 3 0.724 6-1-0 0.857 0.631 0.678 3 Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach, FL) 3 12 0.721 5-0-0 1.000 0.560 0.585 4 Lakeland (FL) 2 7 0.717 7-0-0 1.000 0.519 0.619 5 Bloomingdale (Valrico, FL) 2 7 0.701 5-1-0 0.833 0.606 0.658 6 Armwood (Seffner, FL) 2 8 0.699 5-1-0 0.833 0.589 0.671 7 Niceville (FL) 1 1 0.696 7-0-0 1.000 0.490 0.583 8 Wiregrass Ranch (Wesley Chapel, FL) 2 8 0.670 5-1-0 0.833 0.617 0.541 9 Fleming Island (Orange Park, FL) 1 2 0.669 5-0-0 1.000 0.400 0.597 10 Wekiva (Apopka, FL) 1 3 0.662 5-2-0 0.714 0.690 0.567 11 Tampa Bay Tech (Tampa, FL) 2 8 0.653 5-1-0 0.833 0.444 0.685 12 St. Cloud (FL) 2 5 0.648 5-1-0 0.833 0.567 0.526 -
While I understand the desire to be somewhat critical of the ref for calling the penalty on the contact away from the play, the question should probably be asked as to why the DB was making noticeable contact with a WR when the ball had been thrown to the other side of the field. I'm not sure it matters whether they called PI or a personal foul (hitting a defenseless player?), I think the result would be the same: 15 yard penalty. Each time you ask the question as to whether the ref should be making a call on contact away from the play late in the game, rephrase the question and ask whether the defensive player should have been popping an offensive player that wasn't involved in the play.
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35 minutes ago, badbird said:
the ref handled that great. The Miramar coach got ejected and suspended 3 months for something very similar.
Agreed. Without being able to hear a word, you could tell that the coach was upset and just trying to protect his QB and you could tell the ref realized this and was actually somewhat understanding. Good bit of officiating to let the coach blow off some steam and nice job by the Centennial players and assistant coaches to step in between the head coach and the ref.
As for the no handshake, it appeared that the game got a little chippy towards the end (what blowout doesn't?) and one of the Lakeland linemen (#53 perhaps) can be seen jawing over at the Centennial bench right before the game ends. That said, it also appeared that both teams had settled down and were going to be able to shake it up without incident. I'd be curious to know if the Centennial coach offered any explanation as to why he directed his players to head to the locker room/bus. Perhaps he had heard the announcements about the band performing after the game (instead of at halftime because of homecoming festivities) and couldn't wait to hear them play.
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2 minutes ago, badbird said:
or let the defense have the choice if the clock stops or starts
Yes. Good point.
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6 minutes ago, badbird said:
I know you asked this to Jambun but we use to jump offsides on purpose. We had a play called Maurice jump on 2. So we would try and draw the defense offsides if they didn't jump Maurice would jump offsides on 2. The whole team would then yell at him. It always worked the first time. We would usually only do it once. The second time we jumped against Lakeland one year they stopped the clock because Castle was pissed and yelling at the refs. With the new clock rules you can run off almost 3 minutes if a team doesn't have timeouts and you jump offsides once.
The coach should have pulled Maurice out of the game and given him a good tongue-lashing over on the sidelines, too!
The play that you described is exactly why I asked the question. How the heck is the ref supposed to know whether that play was real or contrived? I'd be more inclined to support a rule change: last 5 minutes of each half (or the last few minutes of the first half and the entire fourth quarter), if the score of the game is within, say, 24 points (i.e., 3 scores/3 2-point conversions), if the team on offense commits the penalty, the clock doesn't start running again until the ball is snapped.
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11 minutes ago, Hwy17 said:
That's the feeling we had! From my view point, the ball was uncatchable. Anyway Lake Gibson was supposed to be a hugh favorite that we didn't stand a chance against and Hardee nearly pulled an upset save for a penalty. Just like the North Marion game. I'd like to see the stats for this game as much of Lake Gibson's offense is likely attributed to one play in the 2nd quarter.
For what it's worth, it is my understanding that the "ball was uncatchable" is a determination that precludes a pass interference call at the college and pro level, but not at the high school level. In high school, even if the ball is thrown 50 feet over the receiver's head, if there is contact by the defender when the ball is in the air, it's still considered pass interference.
Jambun, correct me if I'm wrong.
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9 hours ago, Jambun82 said:
The offended team has the right in the last two minutes of the second and fourth quarters to have the clock start on the snap after a foul. Badbird is correct however, the referee has the authority to order the clock stopped or started if he/she feels that a team is trying to consume or conserve time illegally.
Jambun, I read this in the rules. How is this interpreted? How does a team "consume (or conserve) time illegally?" Is the white hat supposed to read the coaches mind and make a determination whether a coach has told a play to take an intentional false start penalty or feign an injury?
Have you ever seen an official make this determination in a game (i.e., that one team or the other was trying to consume or conserve time illegally)?
I'm just trying to get a feel for how officials make such a subjective determination.
Thanks.
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5 minutes ago, Hwy17 said:
The play was away from the defender they called the penalty on.
Sounds like your classic "stupid play by the defender; unwarranted (but not necessarily incorrect) call by the official."
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American Heritage (Plantation)
Jones
Miami Central
Marietta, Ga
Rockledge
Columbia
Bartram Trail
Clearwater Central Catholic
Cocoa
Flagler Palm Coast
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With all due respect to both programs, can someone please explain to me in 25 words or less why a game between a ranked 7A team in Florida and any 1A team in Florida should even be close?
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1 minute ago, nolebull813 said:
Yeah if you don’t include Gadsden County from a few years ago
(thus the emoticon).
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14 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
With the watered down playoff system I wouldn’t be surprised they go 0-10 and get the top seed. Lol.
Ha! Actually, I think the best they could do with an 0-10 record would be the 5th seed. But seriously, a no-win team has never made the playoffs, right?
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Just out of curiosity, what holiday is it? End of Hurricane Season? Start of Snowbird Season? I just want to make sure I didn't ignore any one of my Facebook friends on their special day.