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On 12/17/2023 at 5:50 PM, DarterBlue2 said:
I am not sure about that. California and New Jersey have had Catholic powers for a long time.
HS Football National Champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_school_football_national_championships#National_champions_by_year
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On 12/19/2023 at 9:33 AM, nolebull813 said:
I think an open division is a good idea only if you cut the classes down substantially. Because it would be a mockery of biblical proportions if we took the 8-16 best teams in the state put them in 1 bracket and then had 7-9 more brackets of nothing but the good to average to below average teams. The champions would be atrocious. It would be an embarrassment beyond repair. A stain on the sport. I pray it never comes to that
I'm not sure there are 16 teams capable of competing in an open bracket... maybe 5 or 6 teams could give it a good shot and have a chance of winning when STA and Chaminade are hurting from injuries or illnesses. Would the open include IMG?
IMG, STA, MC, AHP, and Chaminade would be the real contenders. Then you have teams like Lakeland, Venice, Cocoa, BTW, etc... that get hot some seasons that might get through a few rounds but then STA and Chaminade will always be waiting for them in the semi's...
justsayin.
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On 12/19/2023 at 8:11 AM, Dr. D said:
I think the original proposal included an 8-team Open Division for all the team sports. I'd be curious if they consulted with the coaches in all these team sports, but this way the FHSAA can say they aren't singling out the football elite (even though they are).
Would you include IMG in the 8?
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16 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
The argument you are making contradicts itself because the fact that there are so many other teams means STA would have to fight for and compete for talent with about 100 teams
they are just more successful at it than others
Does STA offer free tuition to athletes? Just curious.
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On 12/14/2023 at 8:14 PM, nolebull813 said:
My system would have looked like this
Enrollment 100-500 class 1A
501-900 class 2A
901-1,300 class 3A
1,301-1,800 class 4A
1,801 and above class 5A
i don’t have all the enrollments in front of me but those numbers could slightly change based on the amount in each class. I would scale it to be around 100 teams per class
And does an all male schools with an enrollment of 450 play in the same class as a school with an enrollment of 450 male and female students? Something like 200 male and 250 female?
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I was sold on the Norland Hype... Beating MC and the rest. I was for sure Norland was going to win... Then BP beat AHP, and I was like, whaaatt, BP might make it a game but no way they beat Norland. I was wrong. Fantastic game for BP and and a great season. Can't wait to see what they do next year.
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Never count any team out in the playoffs. A good coach will keep his team in it until the end. Oh oh
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Congratulations to mainland for their championship win ning season.
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9 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
You and Darter should do a consolation pick for 3rd and 4th.
I'll be off the grid for the entire week this week until next Sunday. I'll be trying anyway I can to check the scores during the playoffs.
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Looks like Darlington still knows the game well enough to knock off a heavy contender. Wasn't he called Shrek at FlaVarsit or was that his avatar?
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CM is the best team in Florida.
You hear that Cocoa? Maybe schedule a game next year.
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On 11/5/2023 at 6:57 AM, nolebull813 said:
Bozeman 1R - bye
Williston 1R - bye
Hawthorne 1R - bye
Chaminade 1M - bye
CCC 1M - bye
Bradford 2S - entering 2nd round
Walton 2S - entering 2nd round
Wakulla 2S - entering 2nd round
Ft Meade 2S - Lost 1st round
Norland 2M - entering 2nd round
Lake Wales 3M - entering 2nd round
Edgewater 3M - entering 2nd round
St Augustine 3S - entering 2nd round
Winter Park 4M - Lost 1st round
Buchholz 4S - entering 2nd round
Archbishop McCarthy Ind. - season over
Just thought I would throw their Strength of Schedule in...
See if any teams with a very low SOS make it to the finals.
Bozeman 1R - bye SOS -1.11
Williston 1R - bye SOS 2.60
Hawthorne 1R - bye SOS 0.11
Chaminade 1M - bye SOS 7.95
CCC 1M - bye SOS 6.21
Bradford 2S - entering 2nd round SOS 4.08
Walton 2S - entering 2nd round SOS 2.45
Wakulla 2S - entering 2nd round SOS 1.17
Norland 2M - entering 2nd round SOS 7.34
Lake Wales 3M - entering 2nd round SOS 0.73
Edgewater 3M - entering 2nd round SOS 4.00
St Augustine 3S - entering 2nd round SOS 4.38
Buchholz 4S - entering 2nd round SOS 5.55
Ft Meade 2S - Lost 1st round SOS -2.66
Winter Park 4M - Lost 1st round SOS -3.49
Archbishop McCarthy Ind. - season over SOS -1.44 -
On 11/6/2023 at 2:31 AM, DarterBlue2 said:
Lake Mary graduates their best receivers. But they have decent youngsters and I would be surprised if a receiver or three does not show up at their doorsteps given who will be throwing to them.
It would be sad for Lake Mary to have such a good QB and only 1 or 2 decent receivers to throw to.
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13 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Regardless if anything is fair or not, the fact remains. They did not play in the national championship game even if it wasn’t fair.
Nebraska lost 62-36 in the Big 12 championship game in 2001 and was still allowed to play in the national title game. Was that fair? Should the number 3 team that year claim part of the title?
It doesn't matter to me if UCF was NC in 2017... They were undefeated in 2017 and finished #6 in the AP poll I believe. That was a good year for the Knights.
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9 hours ago, imjustafan2 said:
Has there been any further talk since then?
Not that I know of.
12 hours ago, Perspective said:I need a refresher . . . does the FHSAA continue to publish a Power Ranking now that the regular season is over and the brackets have been set? What purpose, if any, would it serve (other than to generate further debate as to the unknown factors that are used to create it)?
I agree, what would be the point of the FHSAA updating the rankings other than to stir up the message boards.
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There is no greater gift to a program than a coach that cares about his athletes. Not always true when it comes to the administrations toward the coaches. It's tough getting a program turned around. Don't give up. Coach at their rival, J/K... Hopefully if you have to relocate it will be to an area where 3.0 GPA's are normal and athletes are pliable and eager. Good luck on your next coaching job.
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17 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Let me ask you a simple question. Did they play in the National Championship game? yes or no
And one more question. How come UCF wasn't invited to play for the National Championship.
I think we all know the answer... Because the college football gods Didn't think UCF deserved to play for the championship.
You can't say because UCF would have been smoked by Bama. They, UCF, were a powerful team on a mission that year.
Anyway, I doesn't matter. The records say they are Co Champs. End of story.
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17 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Let me ask you a simple question. Did they play in the National Championship game? yes or no
We all know life is not always fair. Otherwise Florida HS head coaches would be paid what they are worth.
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I believe it was after he was ejected for stepping on the sideline and yelling at a ref.
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19 minutes ago, KeemD321 said:
There's rumors swirling that there's a Lake Mary vs Cocoa matchup in the works for next season
Ohhh, that would be a QB freak show. 2 great QB's with decent WR's for compliment.
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14 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:
Happy for Cocoa and just to be clear, I don't have a dog in the hunt. But how they did it on the FHSAA site only is clear as mud. Every other ranking system nationally has CMD ranked higher than Cocoa and yes, on any given day........... Again, not a betting man but my money would be on Chaminade. So NO, the explanation didn't help me.
LOL, I tried. Chaminade is a great team but the FHSAA rankings are numbers and only numbers. Think AI and you might get an Idea of how it works. No heart, just calculations. Plain cold numbers.
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Lakeland is the reason we have super teams in Florida
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If you have a Open division, wouldn't it be open enrollment also? So 8 super teams make it to play in a brutal playoff. I'd want to watch the games.