Perspective

For what it's worth, I reached out to the FHSAA regarding the issue of whether an opponent's loss to the team whose RPI is being determined is reflected in the Opponents Winning Percentage.  I heard back in less than an hour and they confirmed that it is not.   I'm assuming the converse also is true (i.e., an opponent's win over the team whose RPI is being determined would not be reflected in the OWP either), but I have not confirmed this.  So, using Venice as the example, when calculating Venice's OWP, the losses to Venice by Venice's opponents are not reflected in the RPI.  

For what it's worth, I reached out to the FHSAA regarding the issue of whether an opponent's loss to the team whose RPI is being determined is reflected in the Opponents Winning Percentage.  I heard back in less than an hour and they confirmed that it is not.   I'm assuming the converse also is true (i.e., an opponent's win over the team whose RPI is being determined would not be reflected in the OWP either), but I have not confirmed this.  So, using Venice as the example, when calculating Venice's OWP, the losses to Venice by Venice's opponents are not reflected in the RPI.  

Surprised he hasn't offered you an autograph, but then again he may have done that sometime in the past.

Jambun, why did you think the hypothetical was about you?   Yeah, there's an old expression that if the shoe fits, wear it.  But the hypothetical was simply intended to point out yet another unintended (presumably) consequence of the legislators' actions.   Pointing out the things that might happen (and things which are happening) as a result of legislative changes is a classic way of pointing out the flaws of potential or existing legislation.  So, if either were still alive, I think Darrow and Bailey would be just fine with what I wrote.  
You opted to put your opinion out there for the world to see.   I respect that and I respect your opinion.  I just happen to disagree with it. 

Unfortunately, what I considered to be one of the last purely unspoiled football venues is tarnished due to the unregulated poaching of players across district/county and in some cases state lines.  The FHSSA has in all intent and purposes de-regulated the sport to the point of allowing athletes and parents too many choices that are contrary to the values of commitment, integrity, and loyalty - which I would like to think once existed in the sport.  Akin to the NCAA transfer portal, we have marginalized/devalued what a commitment means and made it acceptable for athletes to bounce around from school to school for the purpose of finding a starting position and/or finding a team that can better bolster recruiting options through reputation or championship potential.  This shallow mindset under minds the importance of education as compared to playing a sport, and sets up these kids for a future where they feel entitled to hit the "Easy Button" when things don't go their way ie. disagreement with a coach, lack of adequate play time, or fill in the blank.  One of the worst decisions ever made in high school sports!   

LOL, we had a sit-down several years ago at a Red Robin's (hamburger joint). He's OK. As a long time area high school official and referee, he takes the job very seriously. He's done championship games. He also likes "dinner fries."

Well, duh!   Player movement will simply lead to greater disparity between the "have" teams and the "have not" teams, which will lead to more blow-out games.  And running clock in the second half of games means the game officials get to go home early.     
(Wife to husband wearing a white hat:  "What time will you be home tonight, dear?"  Ref responds:  "Well, I've got STA vs. Hallandale tonight, so I should be home by 9:00 . . . and probably won't even need to shower before going to bed."). 

Well, duh!   Player movement will simply lead to greater disparity between the "have" teams and the "have not" teams, which will lead to more blow-out games.  And running clock in the second half of games means the game officials get to go home early.     
(Wife to husband wearing a white hat:  "What time will you be home tonight, dear?"  Ref responds:  "Well, I've got STA vs. Hallandale tonight, so I should be home by 9:00 . . . and probably won't even need to shower before going to bed."). 

Dan, the timing may be good right now . . . after losing to Lake Gibson Friday night, the folks in Polk's big city might be looking for a new way to solve their problems.   But, I dread not. 

Dan, the timing may be good right now . . . after losing to Lake Gibson Friday night, the folks in Polk's big city might be looking for a new way to solve their problems.   But, I dread not. 

School Choice not out of zone.  However with school choice there are rules.  You must apply for it and if a school is at capacity you can't go.  It also is done over the summer not in the middle of the school year.  Theses kids enrolled illegally and were allowed to stay.

Dan, the timing may be good right now . . . after losing to Lake Gibson Friday night, the folks in Polk's big city might be looking for a new way to solve their problems.   But, I dread not. 

Interesting read (and I listened to the podcast).  Mr. Smith doesn't really tell us anything that we don't already know.  His solution to the problem is twofold:  (1) a kid can transfer once, as a matter of right; after that, any additional transfers (without a total move into a new district), and the kid has to sit out a year; and (2) $5,000 fine for those guilty of recruiting, to be paid by the coach and/or the school, Mr. Smith doesn't really state his preference on this one.  But, nor does he really address the issue of what happens if the coach and/or the school is not directly involved in the recruiting.   For example, what happens when a kid at one school is being blatantly recruited by a kid or family from another school?  Who do you fine then?  Are we going to fine a high school kid who gives some other kid a sales pitch at a 7 on 7 tournament over the summer?  Are we going to fine the coach or the school if that were to happen?  Who among us would think it fair to fine a coach more than he makes in a single season because some kid on his team tries to lure some kid from another team to jump ship at a summer camp?
Here's the thing that got my attention:  I don't know Mr. Smith, but he appears to be involved with UCF, although I can't tell whether he's formally associated with the school or just does his own thing with respect to UCF football and recruiting.   I ask this question because Mr. Smith calls for all coaches to start reporting recruiting incidents.  If he's truly a media person, why doesn't he do an "All the President's Men" type journalistic piece and start naming names himself?   It's almost like he doesn't like what's going on because it makes it inconvenient for him to keep track of all the top high school players in the state.  And he doesn't want to kill the golden goose by calling out all the wrong-doers and forever tainting the relationship he has with high school coaches.   In other words, if he truly wants to help solve the problem, perhaps he needs to make the sacrifice:  he should do what he wants all the coaches in the state to do -- start calling out the wrong-doers . . . by name, by school and by district.  Bring the receipts forward.  Embarrass a bunch of coaches and see if that gets the attention of the FHSAA and/or the school administrators.  Clean coaches and programs (if there are any) will respect what he does because it will help clean up the problem. 
As always, just my two cents' worth. 

Interesting read (and I listened to the podcast).  Mr. Smith doesn't really tell us anything that we don't already know.  His solution to the problem is twofold:  (1) a kid can transfer once, as a matter of right; after that, any additional transfers (without a total move into a new district), and the kid has to sit out a year; and (2) $5,000 fine for those guilty of recruiting, to be paid by the coach and/or the school, Mr. Smith doesn't really state his preference on this one.  But, nor does he really address the issue of what happens if the coach and/or the school is not directly involved in the recruiting.   For example, what happens when a kid at one school is being blatantly recruited by a kid or family from another school?  Who do you fine then?  Are we going to fine a high school kid who gives some other kid a sales pitch at a 7 on 7 tournament over the summer?  Are we going to fine the coach or the school if that were to happen?  Who among us would think it fair to fine a coach more than he makes in a single season because some kid on his team tries to lure some kid from another team to jump ship at a summer camp?
Here's the thing that got my attention:  I don't know Mr. Smith, but he appears to be involved with UCF, although I can't tell whether he's formally associated with the school or just does his own thing with respect to UCF football and recruiting.   I ask this question because Mr. Smith calls for all coaches to start reporting recruiting incidents.  If he's truly a media person, why doesn't he do an "All the President's Men" type journalistic piece and start naming names himself?   It's almost like he doesn't like what's going on because it makes it inconvenient for him to keep track of all the top high school players in the state.  And he doesn't want to kill the golden goose by calling out all the wrong-doers and forever tainting the relationship he has with high school coaches.   In other words, if he truly wants to help solve the problem, perhaps he needs to make the sacrifice:  he should do what he wants all the coaches in the state to do -- start calling out the wrong-doers . . . by name, by school and by district.  Bring the receipts forward.  Embarrass a bunch of coaches and see if that gets the attention of the FHSAA and/or the school administrators.  Clean coaches and programs (if there are any) will respect what he does because it will help clean up the problem. 
As always, just my two cents' worth. 

Sad news. Sorry to hear of his passing.
To all: Please be careful. Covid-19 is a dangerous malady, especially if you are getting up there in age. 

I watched the FSU/Notre Dame game last week.  What a great game!   Given that N.D. came into that game ranked 8th (I think), when FSU took the Fighting Irish into overtime, my immediate reaction, like that of many others, was "dang, FSU went and got good again."   
Fast forward a week.  N.D. has to score a TD in the final minute to escape with a home win against Toledo and FSU loses to Jacksonville State.   Regarding that whole "FSU got good again" thing, I guess you could say I'm having second thoughts now.  

For everyone except the long-snapper and his parents.  
 

Dillard, 34-0.   Dillard gets 5 TD's and makes the extra point the first four times.  However, on the final TD (and with the game well out of reach), Dillard brings in the 9th grade back-up kicker and he promptly sends a screaming line drive right into the center's cheeks (which does allow the bruised long-snapper with the luxury of being able to lie on his stomach for game film tomorrow morning). 

Dillard, 34-0.   Dillard gets 5 TD's and makes the extra point the first four times.  However, on the final TD (and with the game well out of reach), Dillard brings in the 9th grade back-up kicker and he promptly sends a screaming line drive right into the center's cheeks (which does allow the bruised long-snapper with the luxury of being able to lie on his stomach for game film tomorrow morning). 

Dillard, 34-0.   Dillard gets 5 TD's and makes the extra point the first four times.  However, on the final TD (and with the game well out of reach), Dillard brings in the 9th grade back-up kicker and he promptly sends a screaming line drive right into the center's cheeks (which does allow the bruised long-snapper with the luxury of being able to lie on his stomach for game film tomorrow morning). 

Thanks for the plug Darter.
Well, I certainly hope everything is well with Joe Pinkos. He is an icon who's tremendous forecasting accuracy and results ability is amazing. And I believe he does it "manually!" As Darter states, I do rankings and game forecasts for all the schools. I've been doing this for Florida high schools since 1999. Joe has been around a lot longer than that. And we all look forward to his picks every single week, including myself (Yes, I like to compare).  
If you want to look at my weekly forecasts, they are on my site. Accuracy of the computer lags behind Joe for a few weeks and usually runs in the mid 70's until about week 4 when the 80% range is achieved. 
Another site that ranks every high school team in the nation and forecasts every high school game in the nation is run by Kenneth Massey.
Get back soon Joe.
   

Top Five Possibilities:
5.  Someone said something that somebody else didn't like. 
4.  Someone said something about somebody else's mother. 
3.  Someone got disrespected about something.
2.  Someone snitched on somebody else.
1.  A girl. 

Top Five Possibilities:
5.  Someone said something that somebody else didn't like. 
4.  Someone said something about somebody else's mother. 
3.  Someone got disrespected about something.
2.  Someone snitched on somebody else.
1.  A girl. 

Do you remember that Aquinas fan Carlos, or something like that? Always attacking people for things related to his school, or anything else for that matter. Dude swore he was the Einstein of HS football
Could this columbiajoker be C-los reincarnated?
If you notice anytime someone mentions Sta and the "R" word he jumps to their defense and starts pointing fingers at other schools and trying to change the subject. Hmmm

Every now and then, when I'm catching up on the threads, I'll hit "next unread topic" one too many times and it takes me back to some post from 2018 that existed before I joined this forum.  Inevitably, I'll see a post from Old School Lion.   I really don't know what happened or why he stopped posting, but I miss his contributions.   That's all.