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    Perspective reacted to nolebull813 in Bad Press Is Good Press...Right?   
    To make it short and sweet. I am against breaking the rules. If there is a rule that seems outdated or unfair then it should be amended/changed/repealed with majority rule 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Ray Icaza in Bad Press Is Good Press...Right?   
    "Choosing to break the rules is not a coach philosophy; it's cheating." 
    /s/ Annoyed and retired

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    Perspective got a reaction from THAT S--T WAS FUNNY in Bad Press Is Good Press...Right?   
    "Choosing to break the rules is not a coach philosophy; it's cheating." 
    /s/ Annoyed and retired

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    Perspective got a reaction from KeemD321 in New "Open Division" proposal   
    I've said it before and I'll say it again:  I'm OK with an open division, but the teams in the open division should be determined before the season starts and not at the end of the regular season just before the playoffs begin.  
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    Perspective reacted to THAT S--T WAS FUNNY in Bad Press Is Good Press...Right?   
    Or maybe he left because he values his integrity. 
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    Perspective got a reaction from nolebull813 in Clearwater Academy transfers   
    Ironic.  These days, it's usually the folks from other countries that are being told to 'go back to where they came from.'
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    Perspective reacted to Dr. D in Vero Beach 2024 Football Schedule   
    As Joshua Wilson's article reported, a first draft of an FHSAA NIL policy has been published.  The next step is a FHSAA Board of Directors' workshop on April 21 regarding the NIL policy.  How long it will take this process to come up with an actual NIL policy is anyone's guess.  The FHSAA would seemingly want to develop its own policy before the Florida state legislature gets involved.  Since the legislature does not meet again until March 2025 (barring a special session called by the governor), the FHSAA has almost a year to work with.  One other possibility is an NIL lawsuit being brought by a student-athlete (and his lawyer/agent) against the FHSAA (similar to past lawsuits against the NCAA).  Again, an incentive for the FHSAA to develop a policy in a timely manner (with all the good and bad aspects it will likely bring).
    https://floridahsfootball.com/2024/02/26/fhsaa-board-of-directors-drafted-nil-language-discussed-while-rural-classification-sees-more-changes/ 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Longtime Observer in Venice Has no proven RB   
    The difference that I see is that colleges and universities can recruit (in fact, they have to in order to be competitive). More importantly, the local car dealership can be loyal to a particular college or university and under new NIL rules, it can pay a student-athlete.     As it stands now, that same car dealership can be loyal to a particular high school football team, but as soon as they start providing payments to players, they run afoul of the FHSAA rules prohibiting "impermissible benefits."  This whole section would have to be changed:
    "37.2 IMPERMISSIBLE BENEFIT
    37.2.1 General Regulation. No school employee, athletic department staff member, representative of the school’s athletic
    interests or third parties, such as an independent person, business, or organization, may be involved, directly or indirectly, in giving
    an impermissible benefit to any student or any member of his/her family for the purpose of participating in interscholastic athletics,
    or to any student-athlete who already attends a school.
    37.2.2 Specific Prohibitions. Specifically prohibited arrangements, assistance or benefits include, but are not limited to,
    the following:
    37.2.2.1 School-based financial assistance of any kind that exceeds the amount for which a student has been approved
    by an independent financial needs assessment company that is recognized by the FHSAA or otherwise is in excess of any supplemental
    assistance provided by a school to each and every student who qualifies for financial assistance.
    37.2.2.2 Cash or like items, such as credit cards, debit cards, gift cards, gift certificates, coupons, or vouchers. . . .."
     
    What's wrong with keeping high school sports purely amateur?  Unlike colleges and universities, no one (including/especially the high schools) is really 'profiting' from the name, image or likeness of a high school athletes, are they?   My kids played with some pretty high-profile guys, but I don't recall Dick's selling jerseys with their names printed on the back.  Are high school football players from Florida going to start fleeing to other states to pick up a few grand?   Perhaps a kid from the panhandle or Jacksonville might get pulled north to Georgia or Alabama for a few bucks, but I can't see any south Florida kids making the move north unless the money was huge (like a once-in-a-generation kid).    Let NIL screw up the college game, but keep the high school game as pure as possible. 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Ray Icaza in Venice Has no proven RB   
    The difference that I see is that colleges and universities can recruit (in fact, they have to in order to be competitive). More importantly, the local car dealership can be loyal to a particular college or university and under new NIL rules, it can pay a student-athlete.     As it stands now, that same car dealership can be loyal to a particular high school football team, but as soon as they start providing payments to players, they run afoul of the FHSAA rules prohibiting "impermissible benefits."  This whole section would have to be changed:
    "37.2 IMPERMISSIBLE BENEFIT
    37.2.1 General Regulation. No school employee, athletic department staff member, representative of the school’s athletic
    interests or third parties, such as an independent person, business, or organization, may be involved, directly or indirectly, in giving
    an impermissible benefit to any student or any member of his/her family for the purpose of participating in interscholastic athletics,
    or to any student-athlete who already attends a school.
    37.2.2 Specific Prohibitions. Specifically prohibited arrangements, assistance or benefits include, but are not limited to,
    the following:
    37.2.2.1 School-based financial assistance of any kind that exceeds the amount for which a student has been approved
    by an independent financial needs assessment company that is recognized by the FHSAA or otherwise is in excess of any supplemental
    assistance provided by a school to each and every student who qualifies for financial assistance.
    37.2.2.2 Cash or like items, such as credit cards, debit cards, gift cards, gift certificates, coupons, or vouchers. . . .."
     
    What's wrong with keeping high school sports purely amateur?  Unlike colleges and universities, no one (including/especially the high schools) is really 'profiting' from the name, image or likeness of a high school athletes, are they?   My kids played with some pretty high-profile guys, but I don't recall Dick's selling jerseys with their names printed on the back.  Are high school football players from Florida going to start fleeing to other states to pick up a few grand?   Perhaps a kid from the panhandle or Jacksonville might get pulled north to Georgia or Alabama for a few bucks, but I can't see any south Florida kids making the move north unless the money was huge (like a once-in-a-generation kid).    Let NIL screw up the college game, but keep the high school game as pure as possible. 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Ray Icaza in Venice Has no proven RB   
    Unless and until the FHSAA changes the rules regarding recruiting, I don't see how you can possibly reconcile "allowing NIL deals" with "no recruiting."   The only way that I can see it happening is if companies offering NIL deals offer the deals to players at multiple high schools.   But, if you've got, let's say, a car dealership in Venice or Lakeland that only offers NIL deals to kids who attend Venice or Lakeland, that constitutes recruiting. 
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    Perspective reacted to Ray Icaza in will they pay the coaches???   
    Unions aren't about the teachers and working tirelessly for their compensation but most importantly the dues they collect, control and power, just my own opinion.  Extracurricular activities whether band, athletics, debate teams, etc.. have a profound impact on the overall development of students thru relationship building, discipline, work ethic and other traits not learned in the classroom and should be compensated as such.  Here is a quote I recently saw posted by our HC (football and track) on his FB page who by the way doesn't fit neatly in your PE example as he teaches Special ED but helps support the idea of that value. 
    HIGH SCHOOLS?
      *Miss a homework assignment?  Late is okey.
      *Fail a test? Just retake it. 
      *Tardy to class?  Here is a warning.
      *Playing on your phone in class?  Just put it away. 
      *Didn't make the deadline?  It was extended.
      *Actually get an F?  Have your parent call in to take care of it.
    HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL:
      *Out of shape from not training?  Everybody sees it on the field, IF you get on the field.
      *Don't know your assignment?  Everybody sees the defender fly by you and blow up the play.
      *Fumble the ball?  Instant feedback from everybody and it is often a bit harsh.
     
    The high school football field sheds light on the "real" world in so many ways that the general high school experience does not.  "Talking the Talk" does not work out there.  You must "Walk the Walk" or get punched in the mouth.
                                                                 I LOVE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL
     
    These were his words not mine.
     
     
     
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    Perspective reacted to gatorman-uf in will they pay the coaches???   
    Unions want their members compensated. Districts are slow to compensate teachers and coaches, period. Because ultimately coaches/sponsors are extracurriculars, and not the primary focus of the district despite what some on this board would have you believe. Make it easy, ask your local principal how many teaching openings they have this year in their faculty, ask how much turnover will exist in their ranks this summer, and when they replace them, how many will be highly qualified teachers. Ask the AD how many of their coaches are not highly qualified. The problem from the district and unions' perspective is that there isn't a coaching shortage, somebody always wants to be a coach, but few want to be a math teacher or special education and have their career tied to a test that they have no control over. So just like in the business world, you should pay more to get a person to do the job if nobody is willing to do it.

    Now if you want to blame the unions, blame them and the districts for not being flexible in salaries for areas of critical needs/shortages. Despite their being a shortage, it isn't a universal shortage. Florida isn't struggling for social studies teachers, PE teachers, or elementary teachers, but secondary math, science, english, special ed (all levels), and world languages. Unions/districts have been reluctant to give extra pay to those subjects to entice people to enter the field, but notice, PE teacher isn't on that list.
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    To give an idea of what will happen, let's use Madison County (since they were mentioned in an above post).
    Madison County has 30 head coaches and JV/assistant coaches (including cheerleading). The total amount of salaries that they put to those positions is %66,706. Madison County had a budget of $24 million, so .27% of their total budget. If the proposed bill passes, Madison County would spend 322,500, which represents 1.34% of their budget, about 4.8 times more than current. Now, if the state legislature would simple just add the $260,000 onto the budget, the unions wouldn't care other than making sure that all assistant/jv/and non mentioned coaches from the PB Post article are included. But that isn't what will happen, instead it will be a specific line in the budget from the state legislature, similar to technology or textbooks, money will be required to be spent on the salaries and the state will offer no additional funding (or they will only do it for 2 or 3 years, and when there are new priorities, they will still require it but provide no funding for it). Now, if they offer no additional funding, what happens is that money comes from somewhere in the budget. Considering that that this be part of "teacher salaries", that means it will be pulled from general instructional salaries portion of the budget, which means less money for teachers. So yes, teachers will be upset when the state legislature yet again promises something and then underdelivers (see making the starting salary $47,500).
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    Perspective got a reaction from gatorman-uf in will they pay the coaches???   
    Hey, why can't we just have the FHSAA and MaxPreps come up with a secret formula to rate all the teachers and then pay them based on that? 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Go Bo Go in will they pay the coaches???   
    Hey, why can't we just have the FHSAA and MaxPreps come up with a secret formula to rate all the teachers and then pay them based on that? 
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    Perspective got a reaction from h8r in will they pay the coaches???   
    Hey, why can't we just have the FHSAA and MaxPreps come up with a secret formula to rate all the teachers and then pay them based on that? 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Longtime Observer in will they pay the coaches???   
    Hey, why can't we just have the FHSAA and MaxPreps come up with a secret formula to rate all the teachers and then pay them based on that? 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Dr. D in will they pay the coaches???   
    Hey, why can't we just have the FHSAA and MaxPreps come up with a secret formula to rate all the teachers and then pay them based on that? 
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    Perspective reacted to Dr. D in will they pay the coaches???   
    The same argument for teachers/coaches can be made for nurses, law enforcement, and other first responders, etc.  None of them are paid what they are "worth".  From an economic standpoint, no one would willingly pay someone more to do a job when someone will do the same job for less (i.e. supply and demand).  As long as enough people are willing to work for current wages in these fields, in many cases out of the goodness of their heart or at significant personal financial sacrifice, the government and corporations see no need to raise wages.  Unfortunately, the nonmonetary, societal benefit that individuals in these fields provide is often not recognized (coming from the spouse of a 35+ year educator).  When we wake up one day and have a drastic shortage of workers in these fields, our society will be in big trouble, let alone high school football.
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    Perspective reacted to nolebull813 in Hillsborough County public’s vs Everybody   
    @Perspective 
    17 games against non-district games. 9 away, 8 home
     
    Durant at Lake Gibson 
    Lennard at Pasco 
    Robinson at Seminole 
    Spoto at Davenport 
    Sumner at Bartram Trail
    Riverview at Sarasota Riverview 
    Steinbrenner at River Ridge
    Hillsborough at Columbia 
    Tampa Bay Tech at Venice 
     

    Palmetto at Alonso 
    Oviedo at Sickles
    Lakeland at Sumner
    Palmetto at Newsome 
    Cardinal Mooney at Leto
    Cardinal Mooney at Chamberlain
    Jenkins at Jefferson
    Fort Meade at Freedom  
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    Perspective reacted to nolebull813 in Hillsborough County public’s vs Everybody   
    I’ll have to get back to you. Family time first, researching non district away games for Hillsborough County high school football teams second 
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    Perspective reacted to Longtime Observer in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    No doubt. I mean, he'd NEVER visit Rutgers. Duh
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    Perspective got a reaction from THAT S--T WAS FUNNY in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    According to Raymond's X account, Raymond has official visits scheduled as follows:
    3/7:  USF
    3/23:  Syracuse
    3/29:  West Virginia
    3/30:  Rutgers
    4/1:  Venice High School
     
      (Note:  80% of this post is factually accurate)
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    Perspective got a reaction from Longtime Observer in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    According to Raymond's X account, Raymond has official visits scheduled as follows:
    3/7:  USF
    3/23:  Syracuse
    3/29:  West Virginia
    3/30:  Rutgers
    4/1:  Venice High School
     
      (Note:  80% of this post is factually accurate)
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    Perspective reacted to Ray Icaza in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    Unfortunately, Paul Harvey nor his ilk are no longer with us. 
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    Perspective got a reaction from Nulli Secundus in High School Portal Opens Up Again for Venice   
    See, I knew not being able to play 8 home games this year would come back to haunt Venice. 
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