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Thanks for the plug Darter.
Well, I certainly hope everything is well with Joe Pinkos. He is an icon who's tremendous forecasting accuracy and results ability is amazing. And I believe he does it "manually!" As Darter states, I do rankings and game forecasts for all the schools. I've been doing this for Florida high schools since 1999. Joe has been around a lot longer than that. And we all look forward to his picks every single week, including myself (Yes, I like to compare).  
If you want to look at my weekly forecasts, they are on my site. Accuracy of the computer lags behind Joe for a few weeks and usually runs in the mid 70's until about week 4 when the 80% range is achieved. 
Another site that ranks every high school team in the nation and forecasts every high school game in the nation is run by Kenneth Massey.
Get back soon Joe.
   

I have reason to believe that Old School Lion is alive and well and that he departed due to his belief that it was time to move on. In my view, regardless of whether one agreed with his positions most of the time, he was a positive contributor to this forum and for that reason, I miss his posts. 
Perhaps one day he will choose to return, only time will tell. OSL, if you still read posts on this board, many of us miss the trivia you used to post and wish you the best. Your knowledge of Florida High School Football reflects your love and passion for the game, as well as its participants.

Information on the following games may be available to those in communities throughout the state, but everyone needs to keep in mind, we have one place where we have been instructed to get our football results..... Max Preps.  Whoever is responsible for reporting, game results, postponements, cancellations. MUST keep MaxPreps involved. We are supposed to be a premier state when it comes to high school football. Those responsible for reporting game information need to pick up the pace and let the rest of us know what's going on. Anyway, as of 8:15 am, Max Preps had no results for these games. Let's get it together people. Some of us can't wait around until next week to be updated: 
 
American Heritage (Delray Beach) vs Dade Christian Belen Jesuit (Miami) vs St Brendan Boca Ciega (Gulfport) vs Largo Boynton Beach vs West Boca Raton Centennial (Port St. Lucie) vs Martin County Clewiston vs Labelle Coral Shores (Tavernier) Palm Glades Prep Douglas (Parkland) vs West Broward First Academy (Orlando) vs Orlando Christian Prep Forest Hill (West Palm Beach) vs Inlet Grove Fort Pierce Central vs South Fork Freedom (Orlando) vs Lake Buena Vista Frostproof vs Okeechobee Glades Day (Belle Glade) vs Jupiter Christian Jordan Christian Prep (Auburndale) vs Out-of Door Lake Worth vs Spanish River Sneads vs Graceville Somerset Silver Palms (Miami) vs Somerset SASH Homestead South Broward (Hollywood) vs Piper South Dade (Homestead) vs American Space Coast (Cocoa) vs Titusville Suwannee (Live Oak) vs Hawthorne Vero Beach vs Viera

In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source.
And yes, I want the job. 
 


 

 

Nolebull813,
thanks for the info!

In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source.
And yes, I want the job. 
 


 

 

Look what I just came across. It looks like thousands of people can have access if they want it. There is an excel spreadsheet that must be filled out and it contains several fields that need to be populated. I wish I could post it here but it wouldn't copy. After looking at the spreadsheet, I can completely see where the schools can be the culprits who make the mistakes and not be thorough. Heck, some kid could be filling this out for a coach while sitting in detention after school.     Here are the excel fields that must be filled out for each game when entering a schedule. There may be more, I'm not sure.: A   HOME SCHOOL B   HOME SCHOOL CITY C   HOME SCHOOL STATE D   AWAY SCHOOL E   AWAY SCHOOL CITY F   AWAY SCHOOL STATE G   NEUTRAL (True/False) H  GAME TYPE (District /Non District) I    DATE J  TIME  
These are the instructions:
MaxPreps SupportFans, Athletes, Parents, & Media MembersContributions         Schedule Submissions                                          Do you have a schedule you want to see posted on MaxPreps? Please follow this link to submit your schedule to our staff. Below is an example of what the submitted schedule should contain:                       Capture__2_.JPG                                         **Please note MaxPreps will need you to provide your schedule as an excel file to ensure the file gets uploaded.                       Coaches, please remember you can enter your schedules through your coach admin account.                            How to login to your Coach/AD Admin Accounts             Enter a Schedule in Your Coach Admin               Don't have access to your team? Please request access here and our team will grant you access.                            Submit a Correction:                                         You can also submit a schedule correction by reaching out to our support team by submitting a request or calling us or 1-800-329-7324 ext. 1.                       Still having troubles with a schedule? Feel free to email us your schedule at support@maxpreps.com and we will help get that entered for you!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source.
And yes, I want the job. 
 


 

 

Ray,
Very valid questions. And I do agree, this may not be MaxPreps fault at all. It may very much be just a procedural issue. But it's obvious just looking at the schedules, that people are not seeking resolution. As I've said earlier, I do this stuff anyway. Each year I maintain a matrix of the schedules for all the teams which allows me to immediately identify conflicts. I can generate a list of conflicts/questions for each affected school within minutes. I just need the authority to make contact with a designated person from each school to discuss/resolve the discrepancies and to somehow be allowed to get the changes entered into MaxPreps.     
 

In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source.
And yes, I want the job. 
 


 

 

In all seriousness. This is how the scheduling process “appears” to be set up with Maxpreps. It appears that each school has designated individual(s) that have access to MaxPreps scheduling web pages. That means over 550 people can input Florida schedules and schedule changes. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that this can lead to nothing but disaster and inaccuracies. There needs to be a single source of input who has the capability to audit for accuracy before schedules are entered. This will ensure errors and conflicts are identified and resolved prior to entering the schedules into the site. Again….only 1 input source.
And yes, I want the job. 
 


 

 

In the end, who's responsible for bringing the heat and making this happen?  
I'd like to get them one at a time in the batter's box without a helmet and unload some serious chin music on 'em.
Heck, I might even don my imitation Ryne Duren goggles just to see how they like not knowing what's coming their way.  

No Schedule at all for Blanche Ely.
One would think someone in So Fla has blown a gasket by now. 
 
 

In the end, who's responsible for bringing the heat and making this happen?  
I'd like to get them one at a time in the batter's box without a helmet and unload some serious chin music on 'em.
Heck, I might even don my imitation Ryne Duren goggles just to see how they like not knowing what's coming their way.  

8/4/21 Update:
Not much progress- I'm about 20% through my second pass of Maxpreps and the schedules are still a cluster@#%$.
Check this one out: 
Central Florida Christian Academy
27-Aug Oasis 27-Aug Mount Dora Christian Academy   27-Aug St. Petersburg Catholic   3-Sep Victory Charter School   3-Sep St. Petersburg Catholic   10-Sep Cornerstone Charter Academy   24-Sep Bishop McLaughlin Catholic   24-Sep St. Joseph Academy   1-Oct Bishop McLaughlin Catholic   1-Oct St. Edward's   1-Oct Gateway Charter   8-Oct Cocoa Beach   8-Oct Cedar Creek Christian   15-Oct Bell Creek Academy   15-Oct Cedar Creek Christian   15-Oct Santa Fe Catholic   22-Oct Bell Creek Academy      Seriously?
Yes I do complain a lot. Back in my day, one of two things happened when we had complainers such as myself:
1) The "squeaky" wheel got the oil. And Management resolved the problem.
or
2) The "complainer" was assigned the task of resolving the problem. 
 
Unfortunately, in today's world, this "problem" will go unsolved because:
 The lack of accurate schedules is not viewed as a "problem" because no one has assigned an associated monetary impact to this issue. Does anyone want to take a shot at estimating lost revenue due to faulty schedules?    
 
 
 
                                       
 

8/4/21 Update:
Not much progress- I'm about 20% through my second pass of Maxpreps and the schedules are still a cluster@#%$.
Check this one out: 
Central Florida Christian Academy
27-Aug Oasis 27-Aug Mount Dora Christian Academy   27-Aug St. Petersburg Catholic   3-Sep Victory Charter School   3-Sep St. Petersburg Catholic   10-Sep Cornerstone Charter Academy   24-Sep Bishop McLaughlin Catholic   24-Sep St. Joseph Academy   1-Oct Bishop McLaughlin Catholic   1-Oct St. Edward's   1-Oct Gateway Charter   8-Oct Cocoa Beach   8-Oct Cedar Creek Christian   15-Oct Bell Creek Academy   15-Oct Cedar Creek Christian   15-Oct Santa Fe Catholic   22-Oct Bell Creek Academy      Seriously?
Yes I do complain a lot. Back in my day, one of two things happened when we had complainers such as myself:
1) The "squeaky" wheel got the oil. And Management resolved the problem.
or
2) The "complainer" was assigned the task of resolving the problem. 
 
Unfortunately, in today's world, this "problem" will go unsolved because:
 The lack of accurate schedules is not viewed as a "problem" because no one has assigned an associated monetary impact to this issue. Does anyone want to take a shot at estimating lost revenue due to faulty schedules?    
 
 
 
                                       
 

Darter, as we discussed many times before. I’d love to take a crack at it. I have to put them all together anyway. I just don’t have the school contact clout and authority. I’m retired so I’ll take minimum wage. Just waiting for somebody to please contact me. 

Darter, as we discussed many times before. I’d love to take a crack at it. I have to put them all together anyway. I just don’t have the school contact clout and authority. I’m retired so I’ll take minimum wage. Just waiting for somebody to please contact me. 

With only seven weeks remaining until Kick-off Classic weekend, I'm starting to get antsy about the limited amount football schedules we are seeing. Taking a look at the progress shown on Max Preps' website, I checked out Florida's 560+ teams to see what was up. This is what I've found. 
124 schools (about 1/4) have 10 game schedules with no conflicts.
45 schools show they are playing multiple opponents on the same day. Subsequently, this affects another 90 schools who are listed as opponents on those dates. 45 are correct and 45 will be incorrect.  The biggest culprits are Island Coast, Lehigh, Lafayette and Keswick Christian but there are 41 other schools also playing two teams at the same time.  
18 schools do not have any games scheduled (Some of these are new and some may not be playing 11 man football this year)
12 schools have only 1 game scheduled
29 schools have only 2 games scheduled
31 schools have only 3 games scheduled
45 schools have only 4 games scheduled 
32 schools have only 5 games scheduled
Not counting the 18 teams with no games, this leaves 149 schools with less than 5 games scheduled. 
In summary, we have a long way to go in a very short time. Schools need to get crankin' and MaxPreps needs to get their site updated and cleaned up in a hurry.
 
One would think, maybe it's time to look at this as a business, because it is. I know if my company didn't know where it was going 50 days from now, heads would roll. Including mine.    
 
 
 
      

He'd better be a Blue Darter, or he gets left out of the will!

gatorman-uf,
I'd like to see it but I doubt it would be possible. Very few if any of these small schools will ever be household names. 
What I would really like to see is a leveling of the playing field. The current structure has become so imbalanced that we have been seeing the same top teams from all division’s year in and year out. There are numerous reasons but I believe changes need to be made to keep it interesting. 
FBS -  Must expand the playoff field to at least 8 teams immediately. This would help other schools by giving them something to play for and give other schools a chance to recruit better talent. Alabama, Ohio St, Clemson and a few others overwhelmingly win the recruiting war each year. This is not going to get better. Under the current format only half of the FBS programs have a "mathematical" chance to win a National Title because G5 schools are basically excluded. This should be outlawed.   
FCS - Must be eliminated. This would require an NCAA change in policy. In 1995 the NCAA mandated that any school playing D1 basketball must also play football at the D1 level. This has created a huge imbalance in the talent level of FCS teams. There are many programs playing FCS (1AA) football that should be playing D2 or D3 football. They just cannot compete. What they do get is a huge financial gain for playing FBS programs during the regular season. Obviously the $ is not being used to improve their football teams. I mean, should Miami be playing Central Connecticut State this year? Really? Who wants to watch that? Basketball schools such Butler and Georgetown most likely make use of the money elsewhere. They are never going to be football powers. On the flip side, there are several FCS schools that should be playing FBS football. North Dakota St, South Dakota St, James Madison, Northern Iowa and a dozen or so others, can easily hold their own against most of the Top 75 programs in FBS. This division actually makes no sense and needs to be dismantled. You are either D1 or you are not.
D2 - Has had various champions over the years and there is not much room for improvement other that the fact there needs to be more out of conference matchups during the regular season. Several conferences play only within the conference until the post season.
D3 - Consisting of nearly 250 schools, dominated by 20 or 30 teams that actually take football seriously. D3 is basically glorified "Club Ball." Most of the teams are slightly better than decent high school teams. IMG, St. Thomas Aquinas and Miami Central would probably compete for the national title every year. There are no athletic scholarships awarded at the D3 level.    
NAIA - Roughly 90 schools. Slightly better overall than NCAA D3 teams. The Top programs are equivalent to the Top teams in D3. Personally, I would like to see more conferences. For example, The Mid-South Conference consisted of 22 teams in 3 divisions.  
Other than that, everything is just "peachy."

gatorman-uf,
I'd like to see it but I doubt it would be possible. Very few if any of these small schools will ever be household names. 
What I would really like to see is a leveling of the playing field. The current structure has become so imbalanced that we have been seeing the same top teams from all division’s year in and year out. There are numerous reasons but I believe changes need to be made to keep it interesting. 
FBS -  Must expand the playoff field to at least 8 teams immediately. This would help other schools by giving them something to play for and give other schools a chance to recruit better talent. Alabama, Ohio St, Clemson and a few others overwhelmingly win the recruiting war each year. This is not going to get better. Under the current format only half of the FBS programs have a "mathematical" chance to win a National Title because G5 schools are basically excluded. This should be outlawed.   
FCS - Must be eliminated. This would require an NCAA change in policy. In 1995 the NCAA mandated that any school playing D1 basketball must also play football at the D1 level. This has created a huge imbalance in the talent level of FCS teams. There are many programs playing FCS (1AA) football that should be playing D2 or D3 football. They just cannot compete. What they do get is a huge financial gain for playing FBS programs during the regular season. Obviously the $ is not being used to improve their football teams. I mean, should Miami be playing Central Connecticut State this year? Really? Who wants to watch that? Basketball schools such Butler and Georgetown most likely make use of the money elsewhere. They are never going to be football powers. On the flip side, there are several FCS schools that should be playing FBS football. North Dakota St, South Dakota St, James Madison, Northern Iowa and a dozen or so others, can easily hold their own against most of the Top 75 programs in FBS. This division actually makes no sense and needs to be dismantled. You are either D1 or you are not.
D2 - Has had various champions over the years and there is not much room for improvement other that the fact there needs to be more out of conference matchups during the regular season. Several conferences play only within the conference until the post season.
D3 - Consisting of nearly 250 schools, dominated by 20 or 30 teams that actually take football seriously. D3 is basically glorified "Club Ball." Most of the teams are slightly better than decent high school teams. IMG, St. Thomas Aquinas and Miami Central would probably compete for the national title every year. There are no athletic scholarships awarded at the D3 level.    
NAIA - Roughly 90 schools. Slightly better overall than NCAA D3 teams. The Top programs are equivalent to the Top teams in D3. Personally, I would like to see more conferences. For example, The Mid-South Conference consisted of 22 teams in 3 divisions.  
Other than that, everything is just "peachy."

So sorry but I haven't logged on in a while as I had to attend to some personal issues. The South Florida score reporting was a complete disaster this year. I'd like to blame it all on Covid but even it can't shoulder the entire blame. As usual it appears nobody is "responsible" for score reporting and score reporting accuracy. This is ridiculous. Like the rest of you I scour the internet each and every weekend to get scores. ScoreStream, MaxPreps, On line newspapers, etc.
On average there are 10-15 games per week that simply cannot be found anywhere. In the past, when schools provided the FHSAA with results, it would take maybe 4-5 days at the most for them to get the "stragglers" posted. It was still a pain in the a$$ but I could work with it. I had to. 
Now we have this MP site that has been given responsibility for maintaining everything and it simply doesn't get the job done. I'm absolutely positive MP is not entirely to blame but scores can trickle in for several weeks after games are played. This is unacceptable. As Nolesbull said It's 2021! There is only one way to solve it and it must be maintained by the governing body.
Force schools to report the scores. Failure to do so results in a forfeit. End of story.   
Now, as a result of Nolesbull's post, I went back through MaxPreps and found several results that must have been entered way after the games were played. I must assume these are accurate and will update my records accordingly.
All of these are from south Florida:
Booker T Washington 32, Miami Norland 7 Coral Reef 35, Miami Beach 0 Goleman 12, Surge Academy 0 Goleman 35, Miami Springs 0 Hallandale 8, Piper 0 John I Leonard 10, Village Academy 0 Jupiter 34, Park Vista 0 Miami Jackson 12, Southwest Miami 10 Miami Springs 50, Miami Beach 0 North Miami Beach 39, Miami Jackson 0 Northeast (Oakland Park) 38, Pompano Beach 7 Palm Beach Central 46, Taravella 0 Pembroke Pines Charter 45, Taravella 6 Pine Crest 21, LaSalle 0 Somerset Silver Palms 42, Everglades Prep 0 South Broward 12, Cooper City 0 South Dade 16, Southwest Miami 6 Also, here is another which I found and laughed at but believe it or not, MP actually has it posted just like this:
Coconut Creek 40, Pembroke Pines Charter 0 (OT)
 
 
 
 
 
       

Sorry to hear that, brother. I have friends going through the same thing with their relatives. Prayers.

2020     TOTAL     PUBLIC     PRIVATE       County Population Titles/1K Titles Runner Up Appearances Titles Runner Up Appearances Titles Runner Up Appearances Category   Palm Beach 1,510,660 0.0199 30 31 61 18 14 32 12 17 29 Super 1,000,000 and up Dade 2,719,030 0.0167 45.5 22 68 38.5 12 51 7 10 17     Broward 1,959,450 0.0163 32 25 57 6 9 15 26 16 42     Hillsborough 1,492,020 0.0074 11 21 32 10 17 27 1 4 5     Orange 1,405,360 0.0046 6.5 13 20 4.5 11 16 2 2 4     Duval 966,858 0.0331 32 20 52 4 7 11 28 13 41 Extra Lg 500,000 to 999,999 Brevard 608,681 0.0230 14 7 21 14 7 21 0 0 0     Polk 742,957 0.0229 17 25 42 15 22 37 2 3 5     Volusia 560,467 0.0018 1 4 5 1 1 2 0 3 3     Pasco 568,804 0.0018 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0     Pinellas 976,934 0.0000 0 10 10 0 5 5 0 5 5     Lee 786,684 0.0000 0 3 3 0 1 1 0 2 2     Escambia 321,528 0.0373 12 8 20 12 7 19 0 1 1 Large 300,000 to 499,999 Manatee 412,119 0.0194 8 6 14 8 6 14 0 0 0     Marion 372,096 0.0161 6 4 10 4 2 6 2 2 4     Collier 391,603 0.0077 3 3 6 3 3 6 0 0 0     Sarasota 441,155 0.0068 3 3 6 2 3 5 1 0 1     Seminole 475,530 0.0042 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0     St.Lucie 336,169 0.0030 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Lake 377,516 0.0026 1 6 7 1 6 7 0 0 0     Osceola 383,046 0.0026 1 5 6 1 5 6 0 0 0     Leon 295,507 0.0711 21 13 34 13 10 23 8 3 11 Medium 150,000 to 299,999 Okaloosa 214,542 0.0419 9 8 17 9 8 17 0 0 0     Alachua 269,235 0.0149 4 5 9 4 5 9 0 0 0     St.Johns 275,530 0.0145 4 6 10 4 6 10 0 0 0     Santa Rosa 189,331 0.0106 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0     Indian River 162,659 0.0061 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 1 1     Bay 163,170 0.0061 1 4 5 1 4 5 0 0 0     Clay 222,596 0.0045 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Hernando 197,258 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Charlotte 192,971 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Martin 161,258 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Citrus 151,632 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Highlands 107,509 0.0186 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0 Small 50,000 to 149,999 Sumter 136,121 0.0147 2 3 5 2 3 5 0 0 0     Columbia 72,704 0.0138 1 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 0     Putnam 74,999 0.0133 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Walton 77,410 0.0129 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Flagler 118,077 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Nassau 91,314 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Monroe 73,699 0.0000 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0     Suwannee 44,655 0.0896 4 2 6 4 2 6 0 0 0 Minature   20,000 to 49,999 Bradford 28,650 0.0698 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0     Wakulla 35,065 0.0570 2 3 5 2 3 5 0 0 0     Taylor 21,593 0.0463 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Jackson 44,716 0.0447 2 3 5 2 3 5 0 0 0     Levy 42,208 0.0237 1 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 0     Gadsden 45,393 0.0220 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Hendry 42,708 0.0117 0.5 6 7 0.5 6 7 0 0 0     Okeechobee 42,682 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     DeSoto 38,634 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0     Baker 30,067 0.0000 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0     Hardee 26,706 0.0000 0 3 3 0 3 3 0 0 0     Washington 26,153 0.0000 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0     Jefferson 14,171 0.3881 5.5 0 6 5.5 0 6 0 0 0 Tiny  1 to 19,999 Gulf 11,132 0.3593 4 3 7 4 3 7 0 0 0     Madison 18,446 0.2711 5 5 10 5 5 10 0 0 0     Calhoun 13,667 0.2195 3 4 7 3 4 7 0 0 0     Union 15,146 0.1981 3 2 5 3 2 5 0 0 0     Lafayette 8,153 0.1227 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0     Gilchrist 18,880 0.1059 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0     Franklin 12,574 0.0795 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0     Holmes 19,791 0.0505 1 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 0     Liberty 8,281 0.0000 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0     Glades 13,936 0.0000 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0     Hamilton 14,594 0.0000 0 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 0     Dixie 16,967 0.0000 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0