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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from FORTWHITEFAN76 in Northeast FL rankings (Post Spring Football)
I assume this is the young man. ColumbiaFan...whatever you do, do not watch this before bedtime. It will give you nightmares.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/8089586/Cameron-Sapp
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OldSchoolLion reacted to DarterBlue2 in Gainesville vs West Orange
I can give you the score. After three quarters of Varsity, West Orange 35-7 over Gainesville. One quarter of JV WO 10-0 over Gainesville.
I had planned to go to this game. But after the bad experience with the cost of parking from the Wekiva game which was also played at WO, I decided to stay home. So my knowledge of the score is what I got from the Orlando Sentinel.
As a mark of protest, the only game I will attend at WO this upcoming season is the District matchup with Apopka.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from DisabledAccount in Individual Coaching Tenures at Florida's Top Programs
Below are the head coaches and their current tenures at 75 of the top programs in Florida. Would be interesting to know how this data compares versus years past.
24% of the coaches have been there 10 years or more.
60% of the coaches have been there 5 years or less.
40% of the coaches have been there 2 years or less.
Geographical breakdown
44%(8/18) of North Florida coaches have been there 6 years or more.
48%(12/25) of Central Florida coaches have been there 6 or more years.
31%(10/32) of South Florida coaches have been there 6 or more years.
43%(12/28) of Dade/Broward/Palm Beach County coaches have been there 2 years or less.
40%(10/25) of Central Florida coaches have been there 2 years or less.
33%(6/18) of North Florida coaches have been there 2 years or less.
6 years or more-30 coaches
Lakeland-Bill Castle-42 seasons-6 state titles
Trinity Christian-Verlon Dorminey-27 seasons-7 state titles
Hillsborough-Earl Garcia-25 seasons-1 state final appearance
Dwyer-Jack Daniels-22 seasons-2 state titles
Palm Bay-Dan Burke-22 seasons-2 state titles
Naples-Bill Kramer-20 seasons-2 state titles
Charlotte-Binky Waldrop-19 seasons
Bartram Trail-Darrell Sutherland-18 seasons-1 state title
Columbus-Chris Merritt-17 seasons-1 final appearance
Niceville-John Hicks-17 seasons-2 state final appearances
Apopka-Rick Darlington-16 seasons-3 state titles
Bishop Moore-Matt Hedrick-16 seasons-1 state title
Fort Myers-Sam Sirianni Jr-16 seasons
Monsignor Pace-Joe Zaccheo-15 seasons-1 state title
Plant-Robert Weiner-14 seasons-4 state titles
Plantation-Steve Davis-12 seasons
Winter Park-Tim Shifflet-12 seasons
Booker T Washington/Miami-Tim Harris-10 seasons-3 state titles
Norland-Daryle Heidelburg-9 seasons-1 state title
Madison County-Mike Coe-8 seasons-1 state title
Osceola-Doug Nichols-8 seasons-2 state title appearances
Raines-Deran Wiley-8 seasons-1 state title
University Christian-David Penland-8 seasons-3 state titles
Columbia-Brian Allen-7 seasons
Dr Phillips-Rodney Wells-7 seasons-1 state title
Tampa Bay Tech-Jayson Roberts-7 seasons
Vero Beach-Lenny Jankowski-7 seasons
Braden River-Curt Bradley-6 seasons
Navarre-Jay Walls-6 seasons
South Dade-Nate Hudson Jr-6 seasons-1 title
5 years or less-45 coaches (state titles/appearances not included below)
Atlantic/Delray Beach-TJ Jackson-5 seasons
Miami Central-Roland Smith-5 seasons
Tampa Catholic-Mike Gregory-5 seasons
Wakulla-Barry Klees-5 seasons
Palm Beach Central-Tino Ierulli-4 seasons
Palmetto/Miami-Mike Manasco-4 seasons
Ponte Vedra-Matt Toblin-4 seasons
Western-Adam Ratkevich-4 seasons
Vanguard-Edwin Farmer-4 seasons
Deerfield Beach-Devon Glenn-3 seasons
Northwestern-Max Edwards-3 seasons
Pensacola-Mike Mincy-3 seasons
Rockledge-Wayne Younger-3 seasons
St. Thomas Aquinas-Roger Harriott-3 seasons
University School-Daniel Luque-3 seasons
American Heritage/Plantation-Pat Surtain-2 seasons
Baker County-Jamie Rogers-2 seasons
Cardinal Gibbons-Matt Dubuc-2 seasons
Chaminade-Madonna-Dameon Jones-2 seasons
Daytona Beach Mainland-Chuck Smith-2 seasons
Immokalee-Rodelin Anthony-2 seasons
Jones-Elijah Williams-2 seasons
Lake Gibson-Doug DeMyer-2 seasons
Oxbridge Academy-Brendan Kent-2 seasons
Pahokee-Orson Walkes-2 seasons
St Augustine-Brian Braddock-2 seasons
Wekiva-Rich Bedesem-2 seasons
Armwood-Evan Davis-1 season
Bolles-Wayne Belger-1 season
Carol City-Benedict Hyppolite-1 season
Edgewater-Cameron Duke-1 season
Escambia-Mike Bennett-1 season
Glades Central-Jessie Hester-1 season
Godby-Corey Fuller-1 season
Lincoln-Quinn Gray-1 season
Miramar-Antwan Scott-1 season
West Florida-Rhett Summerford-1 season
Boyd Anderson-Darion Gray-0 seasons
Cocoa-Ryan Schneider-0 seasons
Dillard-Toriano Morgan-0 seasons
Miami-Zach Gardner-0 seasons
Sarasota Riverview-Josh Smithers-0 seasons
Southridge-Sedrick Irvin-0 seasons
Venice-Larry Shannon-0 seasons
Viera-Derek Smith-0 seasons
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from DisabledAccount in The best one hit wonders in Florida
Of the teams named so far, I think Flanagan wins hand down.
...others deserve some credit/slack
Viera and Ponte Vedra are pretty new schools, so maybe deserve some slack. Viera is online now and PV did make a deep run in 2011.
Killian and South Dade-Historically have played in brutal regions of 6A and 8A
PB Gardens has lost some tough games in the playoffs, ie Boone 06,(state semifinalist), Miramar 2011(state finalist), South Dade 2013 (state champ).
Booker lost to eventual state champ Miami Pace in 2003, Cocoa in 2007.
Ely has had many great teams and were defeated by numerous eventual state champions/finalists...Bradenton Southeast (93 and 94), Lakeland (99), Venice, (2000), Edgewater (04), St Thomas Aquinas (05, 06, 07) , Dwyer (13)
Pensacola lost in state semis in 1986, 1996 and 2004.
Pasco lost in state semis in 1983, 2008 and 2011.
St Augustine-Finalist in 2001 and 2007, state semis in 2002, 2004, 2010
Northview-state semis in 2010 and 2011
Mainland-in state semis many times over the years
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OldSchoolLion reacted to DarterBlue2 in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
Yes, no doubt. You could also throw Coral Gables in there too, though they have not made it to a final yet, as well as some of the Broward County public schools who now also have a better chance of a deep run.
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OldSchoolLion reacted to Proseteye in Northeast FL rankings (Post Spring Football)
Columbia, why would you think that spring games have an impact on rankings and why should they? Spring games are nothing more than scrimmages where coaches are playing their entire roster and supposedly to be assessing what they have and don't have. Any scrimmage, 3 months from the regular season with only a few days preparation, has no realistic bearing on how a team will do in the regular season, IMO. In fact, I really see no purpose for spring games at all. Players have little preparation time in pads resulting in the possibility of more injuries than normal. Any coach that sees it necessary to run his starters at full speed the entire spring game, just to show off that his team is superior, is not a coach that cares about the well being of his players. Just my opinion for what it's worth.
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OldSchoolLion reacted to Mashburns in Palm Beach County Post Spring Top 10 (No Order)
Oxbridge Academy- Had to adjust this post Oxbridge will out my top 10 for now seeing what direction the program go into.
Pahokee- All roads lead to Orlando for Pahokee if they can avoid a mental let down in the playoffs Pahokee has the chance to go 15-0 and another state title this year
Dwyer- They have the potential to be the best team in Palm Beach County this year and one of the top in 7a, the question will be at QB if they can find one there I can see a 3rd round matchup with STA with the edge going to STA.
Palm Beach Central- Probably has the most talent on one team in Palm Beach County this year, this is also a team that has the potential to be the best in Palm Beach County this year we are actually blessed this year in West Palm because Dwyer and Atlantic both play Central to start as well as Dwyer and Atlantic both play each other and Oxbridge also has Atlantic so we shall be able to tell early the top 5. But I expect Central to be right up there in 8a this year
Atlantic- Just find a way to reload they tied with a very good MNW team but they had plenty opportunities but they didnt cash in but it is also spring. Atlantic has the size and speed also the experience to be right back in Orlando I wouldn't be surprised
American Heritage- They have a good group that can challenge C.M this year I will give the edge to C.M but that's right now but just like Oxbridge I will have to wait to the end of the Summer transfer season before I make a prediction on Heritage but they returned a lot and they actually lost a lot to transfers but if they can replace them they have a chance for a good year
Glades Central- Athletes can match anyone in their classification but I think they will run into trouble up front not stopping the run and also not establishing some type of run game which those two are very important when talking playoff time but they will have a decent year but not to the standard of the fans in the glades
Seminole Ridge- Had a very good year last season making the playoffs I don't see much drop off there or any change as well I see a first round ceiling on seminole ridge but will be a top 10 team in Palm Beach this year but more at the bottom of the 10
Park Vista- The best coaching staff in our County find a way to win with little every season also the most discipline team and very good on defense because of that they will hang around the top 10 and may sneak in the playoffs similar to last season and this one team and coaching staff you don't want to face they have the potential to upset any opponent but they have a second round ceiling
Boca- Has arguably the best Qb in our in Palm Beach County if he stay there with the summer transfer season coming very soon they have some nice tools around him they can be a team that will be very similar to seminole ridge I don't expect them to make the playoffs because of their district but I wouldn't be surprised if a game or two that QB can heat up and make things interesting
Top 10 Order
1. Dwyer
2. Palm Beach Central
3. Pahokee
4. Atlantic
5. Glades Central
6. Park Vista
7. American Heritage
8. Palm Beach lakes
9. Seminole Ridge
10. Wellington
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OldSchoolLion reacted to DarterBlue2 in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
I am sure many are good athletes, too. But they don't have the size. So football is not seen as an option. In soccer you could be as short as 5ft 5in or as tall as 6ft 5in, if you have the requisite skills, there is a place for you on the team provided you don't weigh less than 130 lbs or more than 230 lbs. In short it is a more democratic game for the majority of humans.
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OldSchoolLion reacted to Hwy17 in Is Rugby as Tough As American Football?
It was sometime in the 1930's that the modern football was made smaller. In the old days of leather helmets, American football was played with a rugby ball. In fact there are some rules that are still around from that era, just not seen as much, such as using a drop-kick to advance the ball or a quick field goal. - Rugby balls are easier to kick and harder to throw; making the ball smaller lead to the development of the modern passing game. Also if you look at pictures from that time period, football players were smaller and leaner than now. I'd like to take some modern-day players, put them in leather helmets and pads, an old rugby ball and a 1920's rule book and see what it would be like.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
and Edison, too. Will fix above
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OldSchoolLion reacted to DarterBlue2 in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
I think Booker T is in 4A. But other than that, your groupings seem stop on.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
This will surprise you...breakdown of Dade public school by classification
20 in 8A
9 in 7A (Doral, Goleman, Mater, Mourning, Reagan, S Miami, Springs, Sunset, Westland)-same region as Dwyer & STA
5 in 6A (Carol City, Central, Northwestern, Norland and Hialeah Miami-Lakes)
1 in 5A (Jackson)-same district as AH Plantation & Cardinal Gibbons
2 in 4A (BTW and Edison)
0 in 1A-3A
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from BrowardHandicapper in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
This will surprise you...breakdown of Dade public school by classification
20 in 8A
9 in 7A (Doral, Goleman, Mater, Mourning, Reagan, S Miami, Springs, Sunset, Westland)-same region as Dwyer & STA
5 in 6A (Carol City, Central, Northwestern, Norland and Hialeah Miami-Lakes)
1 in 5A (Jackson)-same district as AH Plantation & Cardinal Gibbons
2 in 4A (BTW and Edison)
0 in 1A-3A
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from BrowardHandicapper in Are Miami Dade's Public School Programs Struggling?
There are 22(20 public) in Dade and 23(combined) in Seminole/Osceola/Orange. Broward has 13. So I think a Dade vs Seminole/Osceola/Orange comparison is reasonable.
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OldSchoolLion reacted to “PANTHER NATION(CODE BLUE) in FINAL MIRAMAR 14 DILLARD 7
Yea I saw that coach said we will get xs and os figured out jus the overall vibe and attitude of this team is different I wish I can find the video of the td run by our rb the team and coaches stampeded the man they were so happy for him and for once I saw a team it brought tears to my eyes man.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from BrowardHandicapper in Dwyer @ Gibbons
Dwyer is 13-7 vs Broward teams in the playoffs. 3 of those losses came against STA.
Over the years they have beaten, Ely, Dillard, Boyd Anderson and St Thomas.
Not sayin' they are better than all Broward teams, but they have done reasonably well.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from BrowardHandicapper in This the Year for Deerfield
at 10-second mark...for some reason I thought of this when I read your post Broward
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OldSchoolLion reacted to Proseteye in Quiz - NE Florida's Best RB's Ever
We played against CJ Spiller and Union County in regular season games and in the playoffs. CJ was 90% of the offensive production for the team. If there ever was a RB who was unstoppable it was CJ. Awesome to watch that young man make defenses cry. He came from a good solid family and also did well in the classroom both at Union and at Clemson. A fine gentleman and a credit to Lake Butler.
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OldSchoolLion reacted to BrowardHandicapper in This the Year for Deerfield
Answer this question please.
Were you even born in 1997?
Tell us more about that game...
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from BrowardHandicapper in Transfer Season 2018
Looks like the Columbia football team is not the only underperformer in Lake City
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Transfer Season 2018
As hard as it is for us football junkies to fathom, some school administrators probably have much bigger problems now than their football program, ie budget shortfalls and teacher layoffs around the country. As a football community, we must look petty and entitled to those outside our world who are struggling to survive. ...bickering and backstabbing when things don't go our way.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Florida's Great HS Kickers Love FSU
Kickers don't get much love, so here goes. The following five guys all played for FSU.
Bill Capece-Played hs football at Chaminade, where he was also the team's leading rusher. In his senior year at FSU in 1980, Capece earned NCAA All-American honors. He lead the team in scoring with 104 points, making him the first college kicker to top the 100-point mark. He set school records for most field goals in a game (5) and most points in a game (18). Capece and FSU punter Rohn Stark, both All-Americans in 1980, are considered by many to be the best kicking tandem ever at FSU. Capece later played three years in the NFL for the Tampa Bay Bucs.
Mike Rendina-Was an All-American at Pompano Beach High. Kicked for FSU in 1981 and 1982 and then transferred to Purdue. Eventually signed with the Dolphins, but never made it big in the NFL.
Sebastian Janikowski-Was a soccer star and All-American kicker at Daytona Beach Seabreeze. Janikowski grew up in Poland, moving to the U.S. just before the 10th grade. He played three seasons for the Seminoles and is considered by many to be among the best in the history of the game. He won the Lou Groza Award, given to the nation's top placekicker, as both a sophomore (1998) and junior (1999). He was a two-time consensus All-American and left as the ACC's all-time scoring leader and co-holder of the FSU record for field goals in a game(5). The Los Angeles Raiders made a rare move of selecting a kicker in the first round of the NFL draft when they picked Janikowski in 1999. He has had a long career in the NFL, including 18 years with the Raiders.
Graham Gano-Was a track star and All-American kicker at Tate High in the Panhandle. Like Bill Capece, only kicked for FSU during his senior year, in 2008. That year, Gano earned All-American honors and won the Lou Groza Award. He made 24/26 field goals, including 5 of 50 or more yards. He has played for 9 years in the NFL (Washington and Carolina).
Roberto Aguayo-Played hs football at South Lake High. In 2013, he won the Lou Groza Award, and was a 3-time All-American. In his three years with FSU, he successfully connected on 69/78 field goal attempts and on all 198 of his extra point attempts. He played 1 season for the Tampa Bay Bucs, but has struggled getting traction in the NFL.
...other hs All-American kickers from Florida
1983 Greg Cox-St Thomas Aquinas and Miami Hurricanes (4-year starter; kicked two field goals in the 1988 Orange Bowl to help the Canes win the national title against Oklahoma)
1994 Robby Stevenson-Manatee and University of Florida
1996 TJ Tucker-River Ridge High-pursued baseball career
2009 Cody Parker/Jupiter High, Auburn and several teams in the NFL
Interesting fact: Both Robby Stevenson and Bill Capece are deputy sheriffs in Florida now.
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OldSchoolLion got a reaction from BrowardHandicapper in Florida's Great HS Kickers Love FSU
Kickers don't get much love, so here goes. The following five guys all played for FSU.
Bill Capece-Played hs football at Chaminade, where he was also the team's leading rusher. In his senior year at FSU in 1980, Capece earned NCAA All-American honors. He lead the team in scoring with 104 points, making him the first college kicker to top the 100-point mark. He set school records for most field goals in a game (5) and most points in a game (18). Capece and FSU punter Rohn Stark, both All-Americans in 1980, are considered by many to be the best kicking tandem ever at FSU. Capece later played three years in the NFL for the Tampa Bay Bucs.
Mike Rendina-Was an All-American at Pompano Beach High. Kicked for FSU in 1981 and 1982 and then transferred to Purdue. Eventually signed with the Dolphins, but never made it big in the NFL.
Sebastian Janikowski-Was a soccer star and All-American kicker at Daytona Beach Seabreeze. Janikowski grew up in Poland, moving to the U.S. just before the 10th grade. He played three seasons for the Seminoles and is considered by many to be among the best in the history of the game. He won the Lou Groza Award, given to the nation's top placekicker, as both a sophomore (1998) and junior (1999). He was a two-time consensus All-American and left as the ACC's all-time scoring leader and co-holder of the FSU record for field goals in a game(5). The Los Angeles Raiders made a rare move of selecting a kicker in the first round of the NFL draft when they picked Janikowski in 1999. He has had a long career in the NFL, including 18 years with the Raiders.
Graham Gano-Was a track star and All-American kicker at Tate High in the Panhandle. Like Bill Capece, only kicked for FSU during his senior year, in 2008. That year, Gano earned All-American honors and won the Lou Groza Award. He made 24/26 field goals, including 5 of 50 or more yards. He has played for 9 years in the NFL (Washington and Carolina).
Roberto Aguayo-Played hs football at South Lake High. In 2013, he won the Lou Groza Award, and was a 3-time All-American. In his three years with FSU, he successfully connected on 69/78 field goal attempts and on all 198 of his extra point attempts. He played 1 season for the Tampa Bay Bucs, but has struggled getting traction in the NFL.
...other hs All-American kickers from Florida
1983 Greg Cox-St Thomas Aquinas and Miami Hurricanes (4-year starter; kicked two field goals in the 1988 Orange Bowl to help the Canes win the national title against Oklahoma)
1994 Robby Stevenson-Manatee and University of Florida
1996 TJ Tucker-River Ridge High-pursued baseball career
2009 Cody Parker/Jupiter High, Auburn and several teams in the NFL
Interesting fact: Both Robby Stevenson and Bill Capece are deputy sheriffs in Florida now.
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OldSchoolLion reacted to “PANTHER NATION(CODE BLUE) in FINAL MIRAMAR 14 DILLARD 7
From a couple of inside sources that I’m cool with I was told a lot out starters were in the stands due to grades witch their in the process of getting up and a few others was on the injured list. So yeah just have to trust the process. They most def look like a new Dillard but we will see how the summer go. Our 1st 4 games will say a lot.
@ booker t
@ western
@ gibbons
@ Boyd Anderson