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  2. Rural classification proposal -- the future of Florida postseason?

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    1 hour ago, CoachGraham said:

    I personally wouldn't hate having a "B" bracket so long as the winner of said bracket is not considered a state champion...because they're not. But more football isn't a bad thing, it is just all about perspective. You cannot call these teams state champions.

    Any time something is "all about perspective," I'm in favor of it!   :D

    Joking aside, I'm OK with the idea of 'more football,' and completely agree that you can call the successful teams almost anything you want as long as you don't call them 'state champions.'    Ironically, the concept is being tested in the rural areas, where kids are more likely to play multiple sports.  This idea may actually get some push-back from high school basketball coaches in rural areas, as prolonged football seasons will keep kids off the basketball court that much longer. 

  3. Rural classification proposal -- the future of Florida postseason?

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    Isn't this basically what the Sunshine State Athletic Association did at the end of this past season -- where every team participated in some form of post-season play and the teams were grouped together based on their records/rankings?   

    I'm wondering if this is a proactive effort to keep football alive and kicking in the rural areas.  Regardless, I'm not a fan of the 'bottom half' of any classification being able to compete for a "state championship."

  5. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    16 minutes ago, smashmouth80 said:

    Should IMG be allowed to compete for a State Title?

    My answer to this question is pretty simple:

    If IMG is willing to play by the same rules as all other FHSAA member schools, whatever those rules may be, then, yes, they should be able to compete for a state title. 

    If IMG is not willing to play by the same rules as all other FHSAA member schools, whatever those rules may be, then, no, they should not be able to complete for a state title. 

     

  6. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    36 minutes ago, SportsFan said:

    I don't 

    I watched a grand total of zero bowl games/CFP games this year 

    I watched very few of the bowl games myself, but I did watch the three CFP games. 

    That said, I must say I find it a little bit ironic that the poster who confesses to having watched zero college football post-season games goes by the moniker "SportsFan."   :P

  7. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    2 hours ago, Nulli Secundus said:

    Hmmmm...  I disagree.  If you remove the top tier teams, what's to stop tier 2 teams from killing everyone else and then we end up back in the same vicious cycle that everyone is trying to get away from now?  Just something to think about.

    Nulli, I did think about that.  I actually started going back to the FHSAA archives to look at the scores from the state playoff semifinal games playoff games (going back to 2010).   And then I remembered that I actually have a day job.  :D

    In any event, we may just have to respectfully agree to disagree on this point.  I think that's still allowed . . . even on message boards.  B)

  8. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    5 minutes ago, SportsFan said:

    Yup we see how well that worked also for 10 years before metro suburban

    I really did love following games on scorestream at states that were over at the beginning of the second quarter

    Truly great competition :rolleyes::D

    But if the top 12-16 teams are playing in the Premier League, I think the rest of the divisions would be more competitive.   Think about it, if you take teams like Chaminade, Cocoa, Central, MNW, U of STA, Columbus, Venice, Lakeland and a handful of others out of the mix, I think it would even out the playing field in the regular divisions.  If we're still seeing blowouts on a regular basis, then I'm open to promotion/relegation.  

    By the way, I'm guessing you don't care much for the College Football Playoff National Championship games either . . . since 2017, when 'Bama beat UGA 26-23, the average point differential in the champion game has been 28 points, with the smallest margin of victory being 15 points and the largest margin being 58 points. 

  9. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    I continue to believe that there ought to be a "Premier League" of 12-16 teams.  However, I think the teams ought to be determined in advance of a given season and teams should be committed to staying in the Premier League for some predetermined period of time (say, 3 years).  After that, the team can drop out if they choose and a new team can join.   I'm even OK with relaxing recruiting rules for the teams that choose to play in the Premier League.  It's happening anyway - might as well allow it, if not embrace it.  Require the PL teams to play a minimum number of regular season games against other PL teams; the remainder of their games can be played against non-PL teams (old rivalries, out-of-state opponents, etc).  All teams (or perhaps just 'most' of the teams) participate in the PL playoffs, with seeding based upon an established formula, to crown the PL state champion.    All other teams in the state get placed into six divisions based on student body size, as has been the case for many years.  I'd hold off on the idea of promotion and relegation to see if the Premier League concept evens out the playing field in the non-PL divisions.  

    Just my two cents. 

  10. Clearwater Academy football program folds...

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    11 hours ago, Longtime Observer said:

    They'd definitely never do any of that. After all, the less information parents and students have, the better, right?

    To the contrary.  I'm all about parents and kids having all the information that they can get.  And if they want to reach out for information, that's fine.   But until the FHSAA changes the rules, it remains illegal for schools/coaches to reach out to parents and kids to encourage them to consider their school.  And that happens.   And that's wrong.  

  11. Clearwater Academy football program folds...

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    12 hours ago, Longtime Observer said:

    It does appear many of the best players at CAI intend to continue playing in the USA, and likely in the state of Florida. Depending on where the kids end up, it could have a significant impact on the game. There are some big-time players returning on that roster, including an elite RB. 

    Well, I know that I, for one, can go to bed tonight and rest peacefully knowing that no coaches, assistant coaches, handlers or other representatives of any Florida high school football program will reach out to any of these players or their families to 'discuss their options.'    B)

     

  12. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    8 hours ago, flabuck said:

    Pahokee is about as rural as it gets yet they were able to compete with anybody in the state for years in the first decade of the 2000's.  People weren't sending their kids from the metro areas to attend that school.

     

    You are correct.  But here's the point that I think is being made.    'Back then' the teams in the metro areas were, in theory, constrained by district boundaries.   A kid could only go to Central if they lived in the Central district (again, in theory).   So, Central's talent pool was limited to the kids who lived in the Central district.   Just like Pahokee's talent pool was limited to the kids who lived in Pahokee's district.   Now, with school choice, and as a practical matter, Pahokee's talent pool (and the talent pool of all the other rural schools) is essentially still limited to the kids who live in that relatively-sparse geographic area.  Contrast that with Central, who now has the ability to legally pull in any kid from Dade County.  Yes, they are competing against other schools, like Northwestern, for that top talent, but recent history seems to suggest that only a small handful of teams are going to end up with the vast majority of the top talent. 

    To oversimplify, if one rural high school football team has a thousand kids to pick from (including gamers, trombone players, theater buffs, etc.) and a metro high school football team has a hundred thousand kids to pick from (because district lines really don't matter any more), which team is more likely to end up with a group of thirty talented football players?  Now, it wouldn't surprise me at all if a rural team, like Pahokee, could beat the bottom-feeder teams in the metro area, because all the talented kids from those metro teams ended up at the super-power de jure.  But when it comes time for playoffs, the rural team likely won't stand a chance against the metro power. 

    And, yes, there will be exceptions along the way, but for the most part, the numbers won't lie. 

  14. New Association/Conference

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    I'll call a spade a spade.   Venice attracts its fair share (perhaps more than its fair share) of the good athletes/football players in Sarasota County.   Good for them; that happens when you develop a winning program.    But, they then go out and recruit players from other counties (like QB's from the Tampa Bay area) to help push them over the edge.  I can't argue with their success on the field, but it's why I have no respect for Peacock. 

  15. Does the FHSAA punish cheaters?

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    Other threads have touched on the topic of whether, in light of new school choice rules, the FHSAA punishes teams that recruit or otherwise violate FHSAA rules.   Here's my question:  does the FHSAA publish the cases - and more importantly, the results of cases -- that have come before it over the past year or two?   I'd be interested to see something like:  "School A was accused of recruiting (or, perhaps, allegations of recruiting were leveled against School A leading to a self-report).  A determination was made that the accusations were (a) unfounded and the matter was closed or (b) well-founded and the following penalty(ies) were assessed against the school and/or its coaches."    Such a list ought to be published quarterly.  Let everyone see who's guilty of cheating and how they were punished.    Feel free to disagree (but you'll be wrong).  :D  

  17. Truth in advertising?

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    1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:

    I think he is saying this because he doesn’t want to play any good teams. He won 50-3, 60-18 and 70-12. Don’t feel bad for them. They want more of the same 

    I think he's trying to set a trap.  B)

    Seriously, my guess is that he's had/having a hard time getting teams to schedule Deland because of their recent success (and likely because teams don't want to play against Darlington-style offenses unless and until they have to).  So, he's taking a page out of playbook of former Georgia coach, Vince Dooley, who was notorious for talking down his team's chances of success.  In short, he's trying to entice potential opponents to catch Deland while they're down, knowing that they're not that down and knowing that they need games. 

  19. final classifications?

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    I may have an unpopular opinion on this subject, but I really don't have a problem with more than 50% of the teams making the playoffs.   Half of those teams will likely lose their first round game, many by large margins (although the teams on the winning side of the blowouts, if smart, will rest starters and give quality playing time to kids that have paid their dues all season and/or kids who will be returning next season).  But if some relatively weak teams get to play a single playoff game, so what?  The kids get to play one more high school football game than they otherwise would have.   I don't have a problem with that.  More gate money to share (assuming it doesn't all go the FHSAA, which I don't believe is the case for early-round games).  Boosters get to sell more hot dogs at the concession stand.  The bands and cheerleaders get one more Friday night under the lights.  And thirty to forty years from now, when the kids from the losing team are overweight and out-of-shape, they can go on a high school football message board and brag about the time they played in a high school playoff game.   Again, I'm OK with that. 

  24. Lakeland at Miami Central in August

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    It's friggin' January. 

    You've got the kids who transferred from one school to another prior to the start of this semester.

    You've got the kids who will transfer before Spring practice starts. 

    You've got the kids who will transfer after Spring practice ends.

    You've got the kids who will transfer over the summer because they played 7 on 7 with some kids from some other school. 

    You've got the kids who will transfer because somebody somewhere promised to give them or their family something if they switched schools.

    In short, it's really hard to predict how good this team or that team is going to be in the fall because no one knows what each school's roster is going to look like come August.  For high school football players, August is a lifetime away. 

    But Central and Northwestern will probably both be pretty good.   B)

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