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I’m with you when you right but central got a few players from broward as well. 3 from Dillard. 
 
& yea the majority maybe Miami talent but they’re not Miami central zoned talent lol. Either way them rockets doing their thing so it’s all love & respect.

I don't doubt that Central has a lot of home-grown talent.  But when you're get 3 transfers from California, 2 from Texas and 8 from other parts of the state (assuming what VIF posted is true), well, all I can say is that's one helluva big home they've got. 

Exactly . . .
Let them eat cake. 

Agreed.   I was just pointing out the problem that I have with pre-season polls . . .  especially national polls at the high school level.   Too many teams can run the table, so, more often than not, where you start is where you finish. 

But the problem here is (as with most pre-season polls), Mater Dei is preseason number 1.  Gorman is 2, St John Bosco 3 and IMG 4.  Central is 5.   If Central beats Gorman, and assuming all the other teams mentioned stay undefeated, I can see Central possibly jumping over Bosco and IMG, but probably not MD.  Only time will tell.

My own take on the education system: too much centralized power in Tallahassee and Washington.  There is no local say or control anymore.  Your local school board has very little authority at at all. Too much emphasis on standardized tests and over emphasis on STEM at the expense of language arts and humanities.

That’s true now but we’re not like this every year. For all of our overall successful seasons, we have only 3 state championships. Last year Venice would have gotten their heads beaten in by 24+ points by Homestead, STA, Central, etc. because our offense was almost completely anemic.
This year’s Venice team should win 4S with relative ease. And for the record, the name STA makes Venice folk need a diaper change. Lol

This question probably has many factors to consider including years of eligibility, level of performance, importance of that extracurricular activity, proximity to a viable school, etc.. that parents need to weigh in the development of their child.  If he only has 1 year of eligibility left and is truly talented enough to secure a scholarship like the RB example I had previously discussed with Coach Beek in this thread, absolutely.  Go be a star at that other school, especially if it is in the same community.  In this case this young man has worked extremely hard and just happens to be on a squad that has another great player that has been with the program thru youth right into his freshmen season.  He wasn't an out-of-town transfer in this case, but the effect is still the same and I completely understand why this RB left our school for another.  Excellent kid and we wish him the best.  Team sports in my youth were incredibly important coming from another country it help me build friendships, build confidence, acceptance into the community, discipline, hard work, meritocracy and so many other things that were important building blocks.  Definitely there is great value in team sports. 
 

Dr D, I don't have the time right now to read through the report, so I am in no position to challenge the findings or the report.   I was curious, however, about who or what the Center for Research on Education Outcomes is and, more importantly, where they get their funding.  It didn't take me long to see that this particular report (the one you've cited above) got its funding from The Walton Family Foundation and The City Fund. 
With respect to the Walton Family Foundation, its own website says this:  "The Walton Family Foundation was one of the first philanthropies to support the expansion of high-quality public charter schools. John Walton — who pioneered this work — believed charter schools could provide options and opportunities and fuel needed innovation in America's schools."
And with respect to The City Fund,  it reportedly "uses over $100 million in grants to grow charter and charter-like schools"   (See https://www.chalkbeat.org/2020/2/21/21178789/a-major-new-player-in-education-giving-the-city-fund-uses-over-100-million-in-grants-to-grow-charter).
Again, I'm not in a position to challenge the findings, but at first blush, this appears to be one of those situations where data was collected and analyzed and the findings just happened to match up with the goals of those who funded the study. 
Just remember what they say:  There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics. 
My shoot-from-the-hip concern is that a state-funded charter school system will ultimately lead to a tiered educational system where the 'haves' continue to prosper and the 'have-nots' continue to flounder and the chasm between the two grows wider and wider over time. 

I agree 100% that you should consider the source.  That is why I used the word "possibly" in my initial post to explain the interest in charter schools and vouchers -- people may read a headline and not delve into the details.  I cannot attest to the scientific validity of the findings and have no desire to do a deep dive, but the article does acknowledge there were three separate studies undertaken.  The first study (2000-01 through 2007-08) showed that charter schools performed worse than traditional public schools.  The second study (2006-07 through 2010-11) showed slight improvement in the performance of charter schools.  Only in the third study (2014 to 2019) did charter schools outperform traditional public schools.  It also notes that not every charter school is succeeding, noting the failure of full-time online charter schools, and the failure to serve special needs students.  Other studies that I have looked at produce conflicting conclusions as to the effectiveness of charter schools.  But there is also a lot of evidence to suggest that at least some public schools are failing in their mission. 
I personally feel that the success or failure of a democratic, capitalistic society hinges significantly on the success or failure of an education system(s) that serves and educates all students.  

I wish I had the answer but unfortunately I don't.

Of course they don't like it.   And who knows best how the game is played but someone who plays the game.   Which, in my humble opinion, is why nothing will ever come of the grumbling.  Ultimately, they don't want anyone else peaking behind their curtains. 

Of course they don't like it.   And who knows best how the game is played but someone who plays the game.   Which, in my humble opinion, is why nothing will ever come of the grumbling.  Ultimately, they don't want anyone else peaking behind their curtains. 

Dr D, I don't have the time right now to read through the report, so I am in no position to challenge the findings or the report.   I was curious, however, about who or what the Center for Research on Education Outcomes is and, more importantly, where they get their funding.  It didn't take me long to see that this particular report (the one you've cited above) got its funding from The Walton Family Foundation and The City Fund. 
With respect to the Walton Family Foundation, its own website says this:  "The Walton Family Foundation was one of the first philanthropies to support the expansion of high-quality public charter schools. John Walton — who pioneered this work — believed charter schools could provide options and opportunities and fuel needed innovation in America's schools."
And with respect to The City Fund,  it reportedly "uses over $100 million in grants to grow charter and charter-like schools"   (See https://www.chalkbeat.org/2020/2/21/21178789/a-major-new-player-in-education-giving-the-city-fund-uses-over-100-million-in-grants-to-grow-charter).
Again, I'm not in a position to challenge the findings, but at first blush, this appears to be one of those situations where data was collected and analyzed and the findings just happened to match up with the goals of those who funded the study. 
Just remember what they say:  There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics. 
My shoot-from-the-hip concern is that a state-funded charter school system will ultimately lead to a tiered educational system where the 'haves' continue to prosper and the 'have-nots' continue to flounder and the chasm between the two grows wider and wider over time. 

Check with Uncle Luke for details.

I don't doubt that Central has a lot of home-grown talent.  But when you're get 3 transfers from California, 2 from Texas and 8 from other parts of the state (assuming what VIF posted is true), well, all I can say is that's one helluva big home they've got. 

It's amazingly strange how many families from the Tampa Bay area over the years, who have had talented sons playing high school football, have made the decision to move down to the Venice area prior to their son's senior year (and how many have moved back to the Tampa Bay area within a year).   I suspect, one day, the story will be told. 
For what it's worth, I understand there are some upset Carrollwood Day parents; for Venice's sake, I hope this one was done cleanly.  

It's amazingly strange how many families from the Tampa Bay area over the years, who have had talented sons playing high school football, have made the decision to move down to the Venice area prior to their son's senior year (and how many have moved back to the Tampa Bay area within a year).   I suspect, one day, the story will be told. 
For what it's worth, I understand there are some upset Carrollwood Day parents; for Venice's sake, I hope this one was done cleanly.  

Is that a quote from Venice's head coach?   
JK

Is that a quote from Venice's head coach?   
JK

Everyone,
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Plenty of options along the Ridge.  We won't mention the western part of the county! 

If those kids have size, speed and/or talent, I have no doubt they'll be able to find someplace else to play, with or without "encouragement" from others. 

If those kids have size, speed and/or talent, I have no doubt they'll be able to find someplace else to play, with or without "encouragement" from others. 

Currently in our country about 10% attend privates (5 million vs 50 million in publics).  Most studies without getting in the weeds indicate standardized test scores (SAT, ACT, etc..) as well as long term success are typically higher for students in private schools.  Yes, I understand some want to do away with those scores???  Most agree it isn't just the teachers, but class size, environment, higher educated parents, etc... but regardless, the outcome is clear.  If my dream came true and we would divide athletics between privates and publics, I would envision only 2 divisions for privates and 4 total for publics for 6 championships.  With the one year waiting rule before eligibility at another public which would definitely slow the transfer chaos down, we could return competition again between metro and suburban since it would be a more level playing field.  Last caveat would be BIG FINES for cheaters.   My namesake grandson, Tre was zoned to a poorly performing elementary school so my son and daughter-in-law eventually moved him to St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic School in St. Cloud to make sure those early years drilled the fundamentals he would need later.   His zoned middle school was Neptune (public) that ranked high in our area academically, so he went there before continuing at OHS.  He has postponed college and enlisted in the Coast Guard while taking online courses to hopefully get his AA degree prior to completing his military commitment.   Point being, his parents knew what would be best for HIM and they decided it was worth the sacrifice paying double for a few years when that shouldn't be.  They were able to do it, others may not be so fortunate thus my take on choice.