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  1. 5 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Riverside has gotten plenty of transfers as late but their coaching keeps them from ever doing anything with it

     

    Just because teams waste the talent doesn't mean it's not an issue

    Well it didn't look like the coaches at Riverside (Lee) wasted their talent when they played and beat Columbia last season.

  2. 9 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

    It isn't complicated, you tell Speeders they will not be fined for speeding you will get more Speeders.  Telling them 5 years later it isn't against the law to speed doesn't change the dynamic no matter how well written the notification is. 

    Your right its not complicated. You stated that athletes could transfer for any reason. Prior to 2017 they still had to move into the school zone and show evidence of that move. Or they could find a way to lie and fake an address. Either way it was a bit of work to make it happen. 2017 and after they did not have to move or lie. All they had to do was apply for school choice into that school. You stated before that it was the same thing in 2012 just written differently in 2017. That's not true and they are not the same thing. Just ask anyone that has had to move their family so their kid could go to a better school for academics and or athletics. Believe me there is way more transferring happening after the school choice bill in 2017 then before. School choice made it 100 times easier to transfer and switch from school to school. Just ask one of the coaches at Osceola when they felt s--t hit the fan in high school sports in Florida. Pretty sure the answer will be school choice and not the 2012 bill that took some control away from the FHSAA. However, I will agree the Bill in 2012 did make things easier and less costly for HS coaches and street agents to "recruit" but the school choice bill in 2017 made it impossible to govern. 

  3. 3 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

    It took the hammer away from the FHSAA.  When they fined the Lakeland Dreadnaughts $62,500 in 2011 for recruiting violations, do you think it would have deterred schools from encouraging transfers with fines like that?  That bill removed that, so coaches that had been benefitting from transfers up the ante as regardless what the language was they saw no threat.  That was the pivotal year and the bill you are referencing  was  merely political speak formalizing what had be happening the previous 5 years.

    In 2012 Sen. Kelli Stargel out of Lakeland was one of the ones that started the push for school choice and HB 7029.  I remember reading lot of back and forth from coaches and others on this forum leading up the the announcement of the school choice bill passing and coming into action in 2017. Being able to change schools without having to move or show proof of residence was a game changer in Florida high school sports. I haven't heard people talking about bill 1403 from 2012 changing the landscape of high school sports in Florida. Everyone was and still is talking about the school choice bill 7029 and how it has created the wild wild west in Florida.

  4. 11 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

    Semantics my friend, no enforcement by FHSAA means school choice and athletes started the process then.

    Bill 1403 meant you could transfer and not have to sit a year but still had to provide proof of residence for the zoned school. Meaning you still had to make a full and complete move. Bill 7029 meant that you did not have to move at all and could cross county lines and apply for school choice at any school in the state. The start of Bill 7029 is when the flood gates opened.

  5. 12 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

    Bill 1403 officially signed into law by Gov. Scott on 04/2012, but passed thru the legislature in 2011.

    Wrong one. Bill 1403 is not school choice. Bill 1403 is from 2012 and is stated as, "The bill aims to loosen the control that the Florida High School Athletic Association has in enforcing eligibility and transfer rules, which currently keep student-athletes out of competition for up to a year when they switch schools. Under the bill, those student-athletes would be eligible immediately with the blessing of their local school district."

     The school choice Bill 7029 is from 2016 and is stated as, "A new law seems poised to amplify that even more. HB 7029, signed by Gov. Rick Scott in 2016, will be effective for the 2017-18 school year. Under HB 7029, public schools are required to allow students to transfer in from anywhere else in the state, as long as they have the capacity to take them."

     

  6. 4 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

    This scenario got baked in when our state legislators decided in 2011 to allow transfers for any reason.  FHSAA basically has their hands tied unless that policy is changed and they are grasping at straws trying to come up with a fix.  

    The school choice bill came into effect in 2016.

  7. 21 minutes ago, Jesse said:

    It's not the charter school.  It's greenville fl a small town in Madison County that makes Madison who they are. I guarantee greenville if they had a football team would win state . Madison County without greenville is a normal 1A team. Population 840 , I should have said this in the beginning but stop saying its not right for Madison to be 1A. Them kids work hard they best player is at lowndes starting bc he wants to make it out.  Madison just has a different mindset or I should just call it how it is really greenville is getting the credit I'm a fan of greenville.  I been so caught up in Madison. But greenville is the source of the talent in Madison County.  Population 840. So I will say greenville football for now on. So greenville put 42 on trinity christian . 

    I gotta respect Jesse. That dude will be getting his a** kicked and still find a way to throw in some jabs.

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