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2018 est TOTAL PUBLIC PRIVATE County Population Titles Runner Up Appearances Titles Runner Up Appearances Titles Runner Up Appearances Category Dade 2,751,796 38.5 22 61 34.5 12 47 4 10 14 Super 1,000,000 and up Palm Beach 1,471,150 30 31 61 18 14 32 12 17 29 Broward 1,935,878 27 24 51 6 9 15 21 15 36 Hillsborough 1,408,566 11 21 32 10 17 27 1 4 5 Orange 1,348,975 6.5 9 16 4.5 7 12 2 2 4 Duval 937,934 31 17 48 4 7 11 27 10 37 Extra Lg 500,000 to 999,999 Polk 686,483 17 24 41 15 22 37 2 2 4 Brevard 589,162 14 7 21 14 7 21 0 0 0 Pinellas 970,637 0 10 10 0 5 5 0 5 5 Volusia 538,692 1 4 5 1 1 2 0 3 3 Lee 739,224 0 3 3 0 1 1 0 2 2 Pasco 525,643 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 Escambia 313,512 12 7 19 12 6 18 0 1 1 Large 300,000 to 499,999 Manatee 385,571 8 6 14 8 6 14 0 0 0 Marion 354,353 6 4 10 4 2 6 2 2 4 Collier 372,880 3 3 6 3 3 6 0 0 0 Sarasota 419,119 3 3 6 2 3 5 1 0 1 Lake 346,017 1 5 6 1 5 6 0 0 0 Osceola 352,180 1 4 5 1 4 5 0 0 0 Seminole 462,659 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 St.Lucie 313,506 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Leon 290,292 21 11 32 13 8 21 8 3 11 Medium 150,000 to 299,999 Okaloosa 202,970 8 8 16 8 8 16 0 0 0 St.Johns 243,812 4 6 10 4 6 10 0 0 0 Alachua 266,944 4 4 8 4 4 8 0 0 0 Bay 183,563 1 4 5 1 4 5 0 0 0 Santa Rosa 174,272 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0 Clay 212,230 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Indian River 154,383 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 1 1 Charlotte 182,033 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Hernando 186,553 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Martin 159,923 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sumter 125,165 2 3 5 2 3 5 0 0 0 Small 50,000 to 149,999 Highlands 102,883 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0 Columbia 69,612 1 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 0 Putnam 73,464 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Walton 68,376 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Monroe 77,013 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 Citrus 145,647 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Flagler 110,510 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Nassau 82,721 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Hendry 40,347 0.5 6 7 0.5 6 7 0 0 0 Minature 20,000 to 49,999 Suwannee 44,190 4 2 6 4 2 6 0 0 0 Jackson 48,330 2 3 5 2 3 5 0 0 0 Wakulla 32,120 2 3 5 2 3 5 0 0 0 Bradford 27,038 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0 Levy 40,355 1 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 0 Hardee 27,411 0 3 3 0 3 3 0 0 0 Gadsden 46,071 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Taylor 21,833 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Baker 28,283 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 Washington 24,567 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 DeSoto 36,862 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Okeechobee 41,605 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Madison 18,449 4 5 9 4 5 9 0 0 0 Tiny 1 to 19,999 Gulf 16,160 4 3 7 4 3 7 0 0 0 Calhoun 14,483 3 3 6 3 3 6 0 0 0 Jefferson 14,144 5.5 0 6 5.5 0 6 0 0 0 Union 15,517 3 2 5 3 2 5 0 0 0 Gilchrist 17,743 2 1 3 2 1 3 0 0 0 Holmes 19,558 1 2 3 1 2 3 0 0 0 Lafayette 8,451 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 Hamilton 14,184 0 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 Franklin 11,727 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 Dixie 16,673 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 Glades 13,754 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 Liberty 8,242 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0

We are going to fight... Man I am trying to get an easy trip to the state semis leave my region alone LOL (notice we are not even talking about Dun Dun) LOL.

Top Classes (College Prospects) by Year *Major input from Chris Hays’ analysis, other outlets such as 247 and Rivals, and what I’ve seen on the field. 2020 1. Jones (CB, RB, DT, DT, ATH, ATH, WR) 2. Dr. Phillips (LB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, OL) 3. Apopka (DE, RB, CB) 4. Winter Park (WR, CB, QB, WR) 5. West Orange (RB, WR, ATH, RB) 6. Seminole (TE, WR, ATH) 7. Edgewater (S, RB, OL) 8. Olympia (ATH, QB, WR) 2021 1. Jones 2. Dr. Phillips 3. Seminole 4. Apopka 5. Edgewater 6. Olympia 2022 1. Dr. Phillips 2. Jones 3. Lake Mary 4. Seminole Overall, Jones and Dr. Phillips have the most prospects through the 2022 class by a good margin. Of course, this list will change. Behind Jones and DP... Seminole, Apopka, Edgewater and West Orange have a lot of underclassmen talent coming up. Also - watch out for Olympia. This list includes Lake, Orange, Osceola, Seminole and Sumter County. I don’t follow Volusia or Brevard close enough and I know de cleater will give me a pass for not ranking S Sumter. Out of those two counties (Brevard, Volusia) I’d keep an eye out for Cocoa.... then DeLand, Mainland and Rockledge.

You wait the next shoe to drop will be multitude of announced transfers next season to Venice...............

Someone move this bull shit thread

I've never said a relegation system structured as in the example I provided is the best answer. I've admitted that using seasonal records alone may not be most effective. In fact, I've never said a relegation system of any sort is the best answer. I have said we need to do something and cannot afford to continue on the path we are going, ie using population as the sole means of leveling the playing the field. So, if a relegation system is not the ideal answer and you have a better one, please share. Otherwise, please get to work coming up with one, because the problem we have will get worse. There is compelling evidence to substantiate this that I have researched and shared. This is not just to help a "few" new or struggling programs. There are many struggling programs. Look at all of the blowouts we still have in the first round...teams that have been around 15-25 years who still cannot figure out how to be remotely competitive in a playoff game in the class they have been assigned. Then we have teams who appear to be thriving, but really aren't, ie "powerhouse" programs dressing out 40 players who are likely are a few transfers away from mediocrity, ie Chaminade. More so than ever before, fewer teams are dominating. Proportionately speaking, that's a fact. IMO, part of the problem is that too many people are thinking about "me" and "us," and not the greater good. "We need more classes, we need more teams in the playoffs, we need a playoff system so I don't get screwed out of a playoff spot, etc etc" "We shouldn't try this because it might impact us in a negative way." In my mind, the question should not be "Is this fair to us?" Life ain't fair and it's getting even more unfair as we evolve. If our position is that we balk at anything that could potentially impact us negatively, let's pull down the shades and turns the lights out because there will be no answers that can ever accomplish that. The ultimate question should be, "Is this in the best interest of FL hs football." I see more and more people putting stakes in the ground refusing to compromise. In the example I provided, I'm not suggesting promoting teams that will go from 8-2 to 2-8 as a result of the move. Now THAT would be unfair. Maybe a team goes from 8-2 to 7-3 or 6-4. Is that really the end of the world for "me" if it helps the greater good? And maybe it teaches the kids about the rewards of challenging themselves as much as possible, even if the end results don't look quite as good. And here's an irony. In some cases, moving up in class could actually create an easier path for some teams. If Charlotte moved "up" to 7A region 3, they would be moving to one of the weakest regions in the upper classes. Remember that the top 10 teams in the class they would be moving to would be moving out as a part of the relegation process. That means that Lakeland, Venice, Wekiva, Plant, Plantation, Atlantic, St Thomas Aquinas, Dwyer, Tampa Bay Tech, Viera and Fletcher would all move up to 8A in the example I provided. Now that's a MUCH easier 7A they would be moving to. What if Hardee got promoted to the new 6A region 3? There are only 3 really good teams in that region now..Charlotte, Braden River and Jefferson. And some or all of those 3 teams would get promoted to 7A as part of the relegation process. So, Hardee would not be moving to a particularly difficult region if they got promoted. And what if Lake Wales got promoted to 7A region 2? That region would lose Lakeland, Viera, and Tampa Bay Tech, who would get promoted to 8A as part of the relegation process. All of a sudden that region is not looking very tough. All that said, at least in the early years of the process, teams that get promoted are not going to be thrown into the fire, because as they move up, the best teams in the class they are moving to will be promoted. But even if they were moving up to a higher class and they lost more, couldn't that be looked at in a "positive" way? As I said in my original post, a key would be to make it a big deal when teams got promoted...a source of pride to say they are competing in a higher class...even if their end-of-season results aren't quite as good. I think that's a great lesson for the kids. Better to compete against the best and lose than to hedge one's bets to claim you are a "winner."

Being that a former Falcon alum, my former HS Coach, friend and guy I coached with for 4 years is the HC of one of these Region 2 teams you might still want to believe I made that payoff with the help of Wavebb on one of his good nights at the Hard Rock. IF I had my way Dun Dun would go Independent lol.

Should be Clearwater or Largo... Who have fielded pretty good teams in the past and both have had and will have nexts year a few D1 prospects... Now aint no way in hell they are going to win that Semi Final but hey sometimes you need the luck of the draw LMAO.

Must be referring to a Spanish dominant student population base correct?

My friend is now the HC of that school (Jay Sobke). Young guy probably about 30 I think. Good guy cares about the kids but not much can be done with what they have.

Cocoa and Rockledge are leading in Brevard but there are some surprises there as well in Brevard. I would also keep a lookout for New Symrna Beach too

Venice is playing a crazy schedule next year, here are some game that stand out to me: IMG Academy (We’re going to get crushed, but we get to play them at home) Vero Beach (FLORIDATECH, THIS IS FOR YOU!) The game is being played at the Citrus Bowl in Vero Beach. The Indians will win. Cocoa (Preparation for Aquinas) at home. This game should be pretty even. Any thoughts on this?

Recruiting tool to bring them Sarasota County boys, Peacock's way.

This region got my vote for the second weakest region in the upper classes. One could easily argue it is the weakest in terms of overall depth. No region can claim as much disparity between the top two teams in the region (Miami Northwestern and American Heritage Plantation) and the rest of the field. Below are the 3-year records of each team. Only 3 of the 19 teams have won more than 15 games over the past 3 years. 15 of the 19 teams have lost more games than they won over the past 3 years. Only 5 teams made the playoffs last season(AHP, NW, Coconut Creek, Labelle and Desoto County). No offense to Key West, but when Key West (a team that lost to a number of 3A schools last year) is the #3 or #4 team in the region, it doesn't say much. If AHP and Northwestern don't make the region final next year, you better be careful, because the sky might be the next thing to fall. District 13 LaBelle 13-20 DeSoto County 13-18 Mariner 10-19 Cape Coral 11-18 Cypress Lake 11-18 Estero 8-22 District 14 Jensen Beach 14-14 Coconut Creek 8-20 Boynton Beach 11-20 Suncoast 14-16 District 15 Hallandale 13-18 Stranahan 9-20 North Miami Beach 15-16 American Heritage (Plantation) 38-2 District 16 Key West 19-11 Miami Springs 13-18 Miami Northwestern 34-9 Miami Jackson 12-17 Miami Killian 8-21

Try explaining to me, then, why Cypress Creek, which has been consistently been one of the largest public schools in Orlando, has never been able to field a competitive football team. The same could be said for Varela or Coral Reef in Miami-Dade. Not sure about the two Dade teams, but I know that Cypress Creek has had a decent head coach from time to time.

Word on the street is Osceola has inquired about a a game, and will travel.