DarterBlue2
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19 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:
Thanks but I like it better when we aren’t favored to keep that edge. Seem like everyone is now on the bandwagon and this game certainly isn’t a given. By the way, good luck to your Naughts as my posts have been clear on Privates vs Public’s so will be pulling for you.
Ray, I believe Osceola wins this game. But they need to play it first. West Boca, like Lake Mary, is making its very first appearance in the finals. But they are technically undefeated and there's a reason for it. Their only loss on the field was to Western, a team that Columbus barely beat.
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Osceola by a touchdown or less in a game mostly dominated by defense. Swint, Osceola's best weapon, breaks a long TD run to win the game.
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Cocoa - This will be a difficult game for Cocoa as GC is no slouch. I am going to pick them because I think they are more complete and they have more big game experience. However, I could easily see an upset.
MNW - This should be my easiest pick of the finals. I would be very surprised if the Bulls lose.
AHP - Jones will not be at full strength and AHP has more finals experience. With that said, Jones is undefeated for a reason and I expect they will fight to the end.
STA - Despite both being in the finals, I believe that both teams have had relatively disappointing seasons. I feel the game is a toss up and I am picking STA because they usually, somehow find a way to win toss up games.
Osceola - This is another toss up game. I can see it going either way. But I believe Osceola will pull it off as they are the more physical team and have more deep playoff experience. It won't be easy.
Lake Mary - I have gone back and forth in my head over this one. Venice has more Power 4 talent; but I think Lake Mary has the best player with the most upside potential on the field. I also believe that the Rams will not be intimidated and will come to play 48 minutes of football. I will celebrate the triumph of a team that is largely home grown. Enough said.
@nolebull813, unless you change any of your picks, we have two differences: 1. The Lakeland vs St. Thomas game; and, 2. The Venice vs Lake Mary game. Therefore, please post the tie breaker. I would like to suggest you use the Osceola vs West Boca game or the Cocoa vs Gadsden County game. I believe these will both be very tight and there are several criteria you could use to come up with a fair tie breaker.
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8 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Ok make your honest picks and we will go from there
I will no later than Monday evening. If it can't be a tie (we have one difference or three differences), then there's no need for a tie breaker. If we have no differences (very unlikely unless I have a divine revelation) or two differences, then you will come up with a tiebreaker.
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7 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Higher seed from the regular season wins the tie breaker. That’s you. So all you have to do is wait till I pick, and then pick the same teams. Lol.
I am going to make honest picks. I don't want to win that way. If, for some reason, my picks mirror yours, it's not because I am doing what you said I can. In fact, to make it more honest, I would agree to using some kind of points/spread on a designated game to break a potential tie.
Looking at the teams you have picked there's at least one difference between what I am currently leaning towards and the teams you picked. If that one difference remains, there will be an outright winner. However, there could possibly be two differences. If there are two, we could end up tied if we split wins. As of now, we are in agreement in at least 4 of the 6 games, and possibly 5.
I need to do a bit more analysis and research and I will post my final picks Monday evening.
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7 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:
Hope your relocation goes well and its been a pleasure making your acquaintance. Every team that has had to battle physically during the last 2 weeks to get here is probably a bit banged up. We are no different but will enter the final pretty much intact. At least it won't be as cold as it was last night.
No, it should not be given they are in Miami unless a powerful front comes through.
I think Osceola has the best chance of lifting a title of the three Orlando area teams, but I actually think all thee have realistic chances of winning.
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24 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:
Pretty chewed up as others have pointed out. Don't think it affected either team as they are used to it and we were able to run the ball effectively despite it. Enjoyed meeting you during the OHS vs Jones game and maybe we will run into each other in Miami. Funny thing is our 2 losses that possibly could have gone the other way are to the 7A finalist Lake Mary and 4A finalist Jones. That sealed our fate as being a true contender for the 6A crown, but somehow we are managing to prove those naysayers wrong. These last two victories to propel us there were against teams ranked higher than us as well as being on the road. One last obstacle to overcome.
Ray, I believe a number of people discounted Osceola this year because of the disappointing year you had in 2023. Those not close to the program don't understand how bad the injury bug hit you last year. This year has been a more normal one for Osceola injury wise and your team is demonstrating what it can and could have done.
Good luck new week. Due to my departure plans, I won't make the state finals this year. However, I will endeavor to watch most of the games via streaming.
BTW, I took the liberty of sharing your contact information with Mark. I hope you don't mind.
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3 minutes ago, Jambun82 said:
I wasn't talking to you, and since you didn't answer the question that I asked you previously. I suggest you staying out of this discussion know-it-all. Also, I thought that you weren't going to respond to me anymore, did you forget about that already, big shot?
Sticks and stones, fool!
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@nolebull813, you probably laid down the rules before the playoffs, but I am old and forgetful. Further, there are only 6 games in the finals that are up for consideration. Therefore, it is quite likely that we will end up tied. What were/are the rules for a tie breaker. Personally, I think in the spirit of fairness it should be something like total points in one of the games or final margin in one of the games.
With that said, I am obligated to abide with whatever was decided before the playoff brackets started. However, before I make my picks I would appreciate a refresher so I know what I am up against.
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3 hours ago, Jambun82 said:
What are you talking about?
He was watching a game you officiated.
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There's a third and now this which is a fourth.
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Plus Lakeland and Cocoa on the I-4 corridor. Maybe I should just be a homer pick those and add Miami Northwestern for good measure and let the chips fall where they may.
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Oh boy; I am speechless!
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33 minutes ago, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:
I miss the Sunshine Network
Me, too. In a sense, it was much better.
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21 minutes ago, DILLARDBOYZ954 said:
Is broward the only county having all private schools representing in the state semis & not ONE public ? Smh lol.
as a broward native when will the tide turn ? It’s like a revolving door year after year. It’s like as long as they’re in business or apart of the fhsaa it’s gonna be this way for a long time lol.
If Deerfield Beach had not wasted their talent when they were loading up every year, Broward publics would have had at least two titles in the not distant past.
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25 minutes ago, DILLARDBOYZ954 said:
Yessir. Appreciate the love darter. The first year under head coach meechie we went (6-5) last year with a blowout first round playoff lost.
in his second year we went (8-2) advanced to the second round & was 5 min away from advancing to the reigional finals against a national opponent on the road.
so most definitely a lot to build off I’m excited to see the leaps and bounds we can make in year 3.
If everyone stays home, Dillard has a shot at making a legitimate statement next year and I could see a state title appearance and possible win next year. IF AHP wins state this year, which they are the favorite right now, it would put Dillard's performance into an even more favorable perspective.
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8 minutes ago, topnotch305 said:
Where is SFLFBFan?
He retired to where he came from; never to be heard from again.
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Good season for Dillard. They have something to build on for next year. Bad draw in the playoffs facing AHP so soon. But you went down fighting and had a chance to win the game.
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30 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:
Not to be argumentative but if the posted chart is correct, we were ranked #7 at season's end which translated to a #4 seed that would play the #1 seed which was W Boca Raton. When the new rankings came out on 11/29 after beating Armwood our overall ranking improved to #4, good enough for the #3 seed taking on the #2 seed Buchholz. I am only going by the accuracy of the posted numbers on this thread.
Yes, if you look at my revised post above yours, I acknowledged that. But, even if you were 7 going into the playoffs, beating Armwood at their place, combined with your other playoff victories, should have had you ranked no less than number two in my opinion, if not number one. Therefore, if they were constantly revising the rankings, I don't understand how Osceola is only number three.
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2 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:
Not a complaint as I prefer the travel to Gainesville as opposed to Boca Raton. It changed us from the 4 seed to the 3 seed thus the new opponent.
Ray, it did. You were always going to be travelling based on the end of season ranking. But yes, it would have been to West Boca. But the issue I do have, though, is how are you the number thee seed if you just took down the number one seed. That, my friend, makes no sense to me at all. Osceola should be hosting as the new number one or number two seed based on the Armwood win.
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4 hours ago, Rattlin Steele said:
7A 1 Venice 1 1 2 Lake Mary 2 2 3 Dr. Phillips 3 5 4 Columbus 5 8 6A 1 W Boca Raton 1 2 2 Buchholz 3 4 3 Osceola 4 7 4 Southridge 6 6
While the rankings for 7A and 6A changed, it didn't affect the matchups in the semis because the final four's relative rankings didn't change. In the case of 5A they did; hence, the change in opponent.
But, it's clear that the FHSAA violated its own rule in reranking the teams to account for playoff games. With that in mind, it begs the question: what else have they done contrary to what they were supposed to do? That question, unfortunately, will never be answered.
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2 hours ago, Nulli Secundus said:
@DarterBlue2 @nolebull813 @ohs vargasThis is going to be a fun round! If everyone's picks don't change, this week will be decided by the following 3 games:
- Hawthorne vs Madison County (1/3)
- Gadsden vs BTW (2/2)
- West Boca vs Southridge (2/2)
Good luck!
Great minds think alike and fools seldom differ, right?
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3 minutes ago, Longtime Observer said:
I do think Lake Mary has a shot at Venice. Much of what Venice does offensively is based around forcing screw-ups (jumping offsides; not getting lined up properly; getting caught in bad coverages etc) by the defense. Lake Mary aren't world-beaters athletically on defense, but if they can avoid giving up the cheap yards, they can fare no worse than more athletic, but less disciplined, defenses. I can imagine LM winning a 42-38 type game, should the matchup happen.
That's the key sentence right there. Not the most athletic defense, but the front 7 is hard to run on because they line up well and are relatively disciplined. Their secondary is a bit of a weak spot, but it has improved over the course of the season, and their offense is capable of scoring against any defense.
If they come into the final on a high note (I am assuming both Venice and Lake Mary win which is not a certainty in either game, but it is the most likely scenario), I could see Lake Mary winning in a very high scoring game, particularly if Grubbs has the kind of night he's capable of.
This Venice team is very capable, but it's not the 2021 version of Venice which I though was likely the best team in state that year. It's more akin to last year's team with the exception that their feature runner this year is as good as it gets in high school football. Find a way to limit him, and you reduce the number of scores you are going to give up by a large factor.
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Fair enough. See my totals below.
Cocoa vs GC = 49 points
Osceola vs WB = 35 points
Hopefully, we won't need the tie breaker as I expect ST. Thomas and Lake Mary to win. But just in case, we are all set.
If one of the games has a ton of points, then hats off to you.