DarterBlue2
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5 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
I came across this and thought this was cool and random. Back in 1981 Palatka won the state title. They had to play 4 post season games. In the 4 games they played, the margin of victory got bigger each game. Usually it’s the opposite in most cases. These are the margins.
1st round vs Robert R Lee (7 points)
2nd round vs Leon (9 points)
Semis vs Buchholz (35 points)
Finals vs Suncoast (40 points)
It is amazing that back then you were to make and win a state title without playing against one Dade or Broward county team.
How the balance of power has shifted!
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Looks pretty good. I would probably flip Norland over Columbus, but we will see how both perform against stiff competition this week. 12-15 you could argue about which team belongs were, but I am fine with where you have them. South Broward is undefeated, but has played only very weak competition, so I could not put them in the top 15. Coconut Creek may belong higher just based on how
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15 minutes ago, VeniceIndianFan said:
FPC isn't what they used to be, sadly. TC will dominate
A dozen years ago or so, FCP was one of the area's best. Today, they are a shell of their former selves.
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13 minutes ago, VeniceIndianFan said:
Do you think Sanford is the favorite at the moment?
No, I think Columbus is a slight favorite. But I believe any of: Sanford, Lake Mary, Olympia, Apopka, Palm Beach Central, and possibly Sumner and/or Mandarin would give Columbus a close game by the time the semis and final roll around.
I see this Columbus team as being about the same as last year's in terms of quality, albeit with slightly different strengths and weaknesses. Last year, Both Ocoee and Apopka gave Columbus all it could handle in the semis and final. For the life of me, I don't see why this year will be any different.
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On 9/30/2023 at 9:31 PM, cribboy305 said:
& for your 4M State Finals
columbus 46
whoever else 0
That's a brutal assessment that will end up being very wrong. If we can arrange to, I will take that bet every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Columbus may or may not win the 4M title. But i would be very, very surprised if they were to do so by more than 17 and that's an absolute outer limit.
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31 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
Game as been rescheduled for Monday October 23rd 7pm. & we play @ sta that Friday smh.
Glad it will be played. Dillard should rest some of its starters for the STA game. I can't imagine BA giving you a whole lot of trouble.
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17 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
But there are 2 games after it already scheduled. So it’s just some random game against teams from their area they already play. Lol. Ok
Correct. It's a Miami thing.
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3 minutes ago, Longtime Observer said:
There isn't actually a basis for this assertion. The rationale is the teams' records. But, there's good reason to believe Cocoa would be the team with two losses while Lakeland would be undefeated if the teams swapped schedules.
I don't believe you can conclude that Lakeland would have beaten STA. Would you have a decent chance? The answer is probably yes? To go beyond that is a big stretch.
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The opponent is probably yet to be determined. The GMAC is a playoff for Dade schools bragging rights. However, I am not sure how the initial seeding is determined and if has already determined which I suspect is not the case. So, all schools that are participating should have some TBD games on their schedule at this time.
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6 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Your internet must be spotty now because you must have not gotten the memo. I put 2 Monday games. Palm Beach Gardens vs Palm Beach Lakes and Vero vs Ft Pierce Central
And the games are already in the 2nd quarter.
Sorry for you. The best you can get is 8 this week. But thats a drop in the bucket for a go getter like yourself.
That's not funny!
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On 9/30/2023 at 9:43 PM, nolebull813 said:
I don’t think they would beat Sanford Seminole by that much. Miami Palmetto already played them close. Plus you got Lake Mary who can score some points.
Columbus will have a hard time winning against any Orlando area team they face. I would make them the slight favorite at this stage, but I think there are four or five teams here that would take them to the wire. I will let the Dade fans run their mouths. Last year they barely won in overtime in a game Apopka should have won with by a field goal in the dying seconds. And least they claim the Apopka game was a fluke, Ocoee took them to the wire in their semifinal game before Columbus squeaked into the finals.
I don't think that this year's Columbus is much better than last years, and Orange/Seminole football has not fallen off this year.
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55 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Let’s say TC and Jones win against Osceola cancels each other out.
And Jones loss to Cocoa, Good Counsel and Edgewater anre equal to TC’s losses to STA and Cocoa. Just for argument sake.
Then this is what you are left with.
Jones win against 2-4 West Orange. And the 2 wins are against average teams.
Treasure Coast wins against state ranked 5-1 Seminole, 3-2 Jesuit who beat state ranked Armwood, and Martin County.
These are not the same
We agree to disagree and I will end it there. I am 100% confident that Jones would beat both TC and Jesuit if they lined up tomorrow.
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52 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Treasure Coast beat Seminole. 2 losses to top 7 teams in the state. Beat a top 10 team. Beat other good teams in Jesuit, Osceola and Martin County. They didnt play any glorified JV teams this year. Schedule has been brutal.
You find me a team with a better resume not in my top 24 right now, and i will switch them ASAP!
If you go and look at the film or even the game stats of the Treasure Coast vs Seminole they tell a different story. There were four occasions when Seminole got into the red zone, including a second and goal from the one, but somehow failed to get a single point. I believe the long lightening delay and poor field conditions contributed to Seminole's loss. However, at the end of the day, the fault lies solely with them.
Yes, TC's schedule has been brutal, but Orlando Jones's has been equally brutal. I don't see you giving them any love. Cocoa beat them by less than a field goal and they manhandled Jesuit in the KOC game.
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10 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
I get that but Dillard Potential is great as well. Rather they meet their potential is yet to be seen. I’m not even saying out Dillard in the top 25 but if MNW is there at 2-4 & only not 1-5 because of Newman starting qb not playing at all Friday, then Dillard should be up there but as you said right now, neither should be. GO DILLARD.
And, looking on at Nolebull's list, Jesuit does not belong in a top 25, and Treasure Coast either, especially ranking them at 19 is a joke. But like I said, the bottom of the top 25 is difficult as there are many teams a case could be made for.
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58 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
South broward as the honorable mention over Dillard ? When their SOS is far far worst than Dillard ? Also I wouldn’t have have dropped Cardinal Newman or added MNW.
the crusaders was without their starting qb which is most def by far the most important position on the field.
& without their starting qb MNW was still only able to score 7 points. To get to 2-4. If MNW is in the top 25 at (2-4) then Dillard dam sure should be up there in my opinion at (2-2) should be (3-2) if it wasn’t for the canceled game last night.
He's ranking MNW based on his perception of their potential. I don't think they should be top 25, but I also don't think Dillard should either, nor Treasure Coast for that matter. At the bottom end of the top 25, there are a number of teams one could make a case for ...
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3-1 Booker T Washington vs 5-0 Norland (Thursday) - The Vikings prep for their big showdown.
4-1 Cocoa vs 5-1 Seminole - Cocoa beats Seminole in a game that's closer than one would think.
3-1 Carrollwood Day vs 4-1 Florida High - Very difficult game to pick. If I trip up, this would be the one.
4-1 Edison vs 5-1 Miami Palmetto - Wins a very close game.
3-2 Jesuit vs 5-0 Bishop Verot - BV proves they are for real
6-0 Manatee vs 3-2 Venice - Venice wins again in a very close game.
5-1 South Sumter vs 5-1 Zephyrhills - Another close game
3-2 Western vs 3-1 American Heritage Plantation - Patriots are a level above
5-0 Benjamin vs 5-0 Palm Beach Central - The bigger school wins a very close game.
6-0 Titusville vs 5-1 Calvary Christian (Ft Lauderdale) - Good start gets better
Picks bold and underscored
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I am sorry your game got cancelled for stupid behavior by some of the fans. I know it's frustrating and it also affects your playoff prospects.
I don't like playing the generational blame game, because the truth is, young people, from all generations, have tended to do stupid things. Blame it on a lack of experience or maturity. You only tend to develop perspective after you are over 30.
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Man, if you had not included the Apopka game in the list, I would be one point off the leaders! Please, please, whatever you do, don't include the Apopka vs Olympia game in your list.
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Just now, 181pl said:
no. Sumner opened in 2020 as High School. It’s brand new.
I know Sumner is new. I was responding to the fact that Sumner had never made a state semifinal and that the only new Tampa school that had was Steinbrenner in 2019. I did not realize that Steinbrenner was 10 years old back then.
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15 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:
I think, but am not sure, that the school had been open less than 5 years at the time. You can correct me if I am wrong. At the very most, I am pretty sure it was less than 10 years old.
After checking, I see it had been open for exactly 10 years in 2019. When you get old, time certainly travels fast. So, the answer is that there is no recent Tampa school that has reached a semifinal in a four year window.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
In year 3 or 4? Or just in general?
I think, but am not sure, that the school had been open less than 5 years at the time. You can correct me if I am wrong. At the very most, I am pretty sure it was less than 10 years old.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
Steinbrenner did what?
Made a state semifinal game in 2019. They travelled to Apopka, but were not talented enough that year to give us a solid game.
EXCLUSIVE: FHSAA Classification Task Force Committee proposes changes to classification system to help address competitive balance
in The Huddle
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1. Why have districts if you are not mandated to play against all your district rivals?
2. Why not just have regions instead with a mandate that a team must play a minimum of say, 5 teams in your region?
3. Since the district championship is going to be determined by a game between the two highest ranked teams based on some kind of power ranking, it's imperative that the formula to come up with the ranking makes sense from a statistical standpoint, and that it's made public to ensure that there is no controversy over the district winner.
4. I know it's early yet, and nothing has been finalized, but I can't help but think that this is only going to further complicate the entire process surrounding how high school football is administered in the state and is likely to lead to many controversial results.