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I agree with Broward on Southridge's offense. To have as much talent as they do, they struggle when they face good to great defenses. I was at the state championship and the struggled until they called the "throw the ball deep to Mark Pope" play and all was forgotten. If they're gonna repeat, especially in such a loaded 8A region 4, they have to do better offensively.

4/5 and im missing 2? Oh, I thought it said 5 up top. Ok drop Trenton and add in GC and Raines; i thought you were basing this off right now, but I guess its on who you think can win titles.
I only put Trenton in there based off knowledge of what it takes to get there and that they won by a decent amount in game one.

Have seen Trenton I wouldn't put them in there at all if they make playoffs I would see them bounced first round. There way down compared to teams of the last few years they have had.
 

ESPN is showing South Florida love this season. Not only are they showing Miami Central-Bishop Gorman, but they also have Northwestern-Carol City along with AHP-Chaminade Madonna. 
http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2017/08/2017-geico-espn-high-school-football-showcase-college-footballs-next-generation/

my pickems
THURSDAY
- . No. 7 Miami Central
-  No. 9 Dr. Phillips
- Osceola (Kissimmee) 
STA

FRIDAY
- No. 5 Cocoa
. No. 3 Miami Carol City
- No. 25 Madison County 
- No. 18 Armwood  
- No. 19 Robert E. Lee
- No. 14 Venice .
Oscar Smith, Va.
- Lakeland

SATURDAY
- No. 2 American Heritage (Plantation) .
- No. 22 Bartram Trail .
. No. 8 Miami Southridge
St. John's College, D.C.

Preaseason Broward County Top 25:
 
St. Thomas Aquinas (7A-14)
American Heritage Plantation (5A-16)
Chaminade-Madonna (3A-Region 4)
Deerfield Beach (8A-11)
Cardinal Gibbons (5A-16)
Miramar (8A-12)
Dillard (6A-15)
Blanche Ely (7A-14)
Western (8A-12)
South Broward (7A-15)
University School (4A-Region 4)
Cypress Bay (8A-12)
Plantation (8A-12)
Piper (8A-11)
Boyd Anderson (6A-15)
Hallandale (5A-16)
Stranahan (5A-16)
Archbishop McCarthy (6A-15)
Fort Lauderdale (7A-14)
Stoneman Douglas (8A-11)
Cooper City (7A-15)
Everglades (8A-12)
West Broward (7A-15)
Coconut Creek (5A-15)
Pine Crest (4A-Region 4)

Of Note:
Calvary Christian (3A-Region 3)
Monarch (8A-11)
South Plantation (8A-12)
Flanagan (8A-12)
North Broward Prep (4A-Region 4)

I was asked to post a few thoughts about the Kickoff Classic results from the past week. In general, I never recommend ranking teams off the Kickoff classic as it's impossible to know which teams are playing to win all 4 quarters or experiment with players in different positions; however, here are some thoughts I came across (Note, these are NOT rankings, just thoughts).

1) Chaminade-Madonna is the real deal and deserving of a top 10 team in all of Florida and I would wager a top 50 team in America. On paper, Chaminade-Madonna lost to Deerfield 17-7, but when it was starters vs starters the final was 7-3 Chaminade.  If the Chaminade-Miami Central game isn't on your radar for Thursday night at Traz Powell, you need to follow the results.

2) Calvary Christian (Clearwater) probably isn't ready for prime time yet.  The Warriors boasted by several huge transfers were expected to be an offensive powerhouse under Todd Yoder's Warrior program- that maybe still the case, but going against a veteran Berkeley Prep team on the road proved to much for Calvary. If not for a long drive to end the game against the Berkeley backups the final would of been 20-10 and it wouldn't have been that close as Berkeley Prep dominated most of the game. We'll find out this week if Calvary Christian is a contender or pretender as they play Admiral Farragut a highly talented 2A power that has the athletes to match Champagnat.

3) Melbourne Central Catholic knocking of Cardinal Gibbons reaffirms that the Hustlers under coach Sizemore have morphed into a power house. The talk from the South Florida area is that Cardinal Gibbons is one of the top teams in that area; however, the Hustlers hit the road and picked up a 35-33 win. I predicted the Hustlers finished 9-1 at the start of the season, but that was before they scheduled Buford, GA.  MCC travels to Buford this week and while Florida is pulling for MCC, this is probably a battle the Hustlers will come up short in- still, this is the first of 2 out-of-state games the Hustlers are playing.

4) Ocala Trinity Catholic is going to be good this year. Yes, the Celtics lost 14-3 to Bucholz, but I think in terms of 3A this is going to be an above average year of OTC who is looking to return to their glory days. Knocking off CCC/Berkeley or Tampa Catholic is asking to much of the Celtics, but OTC doesn't play them in the regular season. I think it's realistic to expect OTC to battle for a playoff spot in the top 4.

5) Clearwater Central Catholic proved Josh and FloridaHSfootball correct by ranking them in the top 3 in 3A. (I had them #4, but moved them to #3). No football program in current 3A has been a more consistent winner over the past 20 years. CCC knocked off the #1 ranked team in Pasco County and held one of the most potent offenses in the state to 6 points in the first half of their KO Classic. CCC travels to Berkeley Prep this week.

6) Tampa Catholic.  Outside of Chaminade-Madonna, I don't think you'll find a collective group of wide receivers better than Tampa Catholic's in 3A, the speed, power and coaching has the Crusaders offense likely to put up huge numbers. QB Jacob Dean and RB Jalen Bussey are going to have huge seasons. The big question regarding Tampa Catholic as it has been in years past- can they win the big game when it counts? 

7) St. Petersburg Catholic won! Okay, this really isn't a storyline and I assure you we're still in for a long season, but come- let me have my moment. The Barons under 1st year head coach Jay Davis knocked off Bradenton Christian 25-13.  I actually think SPC will win 3 or 4 games this year which is a HUGE improvement if we do.

8) Oxbridge and American Heritage are both going to be powers in 3A this year as well.   MCC is the favorite to win 3A North but Oxbridge isn't to far behind. I do think Oxbridge is missing a few pieces to win a state championship, but we'll know more after this week.  American Heriage Delray is another program that's quickly gaining attention in the shadow of Chaminade in Region 4.

I've been waiting a few years for this game. Hopefully it renews the rivalry. Manatee was the thorn in Lakeland's side in the late 80's/early 90's.. After winning the 5A championship in '86, Lakeland failed to make the playoffs the next 6 years. Manatee would edge them out every year in close games and twice in a three team tie-breaker to take the district.
Of the records I can find, Manatee leads the series 18-16.
During the Bill Castle era, Manatee leads the series 11-6. The last meeting was a 21-9 Lakeland win in 2000.
Kickoff games:
Lakeland 42 - East Bay 6
Manatee 0 - Armwood 19
Series History:
1916 - Braidentown 13   Lakeland 0
1922 - Lakeland    72    Bradentown 0
1923 - Lakeland    20    Bradentown 0
1933 - Lakeland    43    Bradenton 0
1960 - Lakeland    19    Manatee    0
1961 - Lakeland    27    Manatee    0
1962 - Manatee    14      Lakeland 7    
1963 - Lakeland    28    Manatee    27
1964 - Lakeland    22    Manatee    0
1965 - Lakeland    20    Manatee    7
1966 - Lakeland    20    Manatee    14
1967 - Manatee    6       Lakeland 0    
1968 - Manatee    13      Lakeland 12    
1969 - Lakeland    30    Manatee    6
1970 - Manatee    21      Lakeland 12    
1971 - Manatee    14      Lakeland 13    
1972 - Manatee    18      Lakeland 13    
1977 - Manatee    24      Lakeland 12    
1978 - Manatee    24      Lakeland 12    
1979 - Lakeland    14    Manatee    10
1980 - Lakeland    20    Manatee    14
1981 - Manatee    28      Lakeland 14    
1982 - Lakeland    35    Manatee    13
1983 - Manatee    19      Lakeland 14 Playoffs
1984 - Lakeland    19    Manatee    14 Playoffs
1987 - Manatee    34      Lakeland 28 3OT
1988 - Manatee    12      Lakeland 0    
1989 - Manatee    17      Lakeland 7    
1990 - Manatee    38      Lakeland 28    
1991 - Manatee    32      Lakeland 27    
1992 - Manatee    31      Lakeland 24    
1994 - Manatee    28      Lakeland 20 Playoffs
1999 - Lakeland    42    Manatee    14
2000 - Lakeland    21    Manatee    9

my pickems
THURSDAY
- . No. 7 Miami Central
-  No. 9 Dr. Phillips
- Osceola (Kissimmee) 
STA

FRIDAY
- No. 5 Cocoa
. No. 3 Miami Carol City
- No. 25 Madison County 
- No. 18 Armwood  
- No. 19 Robert E. Lee
- No. 14 Venice .
Oscar Smith, Va.
- Lakeland

SATURDAY
- No. 2 American Heritage (Plantation) .
- No. 22 Bartram Trail .
. No. 8 Miami Southridge
St. John's College, D.C.

If they where winning with starters in and pulled them and you won vs backups you belive you beat raines?

I heard Raines was up 27-6 at halftime.  Columbia had starters in a lot longer then they expected to in the game and Raines actually starting putting back ups in first?   
Your take on that?

I'm looking through a lot of these pre-season games and although I have little faith in the accuracy of Scorestream, many of these games just went bonkers with the points scored in the 4th quarter.  

Up 26-0 with 6:30 left in the 3rd quarter, Apopka Head coach Rick Darlington took his foot off the gas. He knew he had the better team tonight. No need to fake the power sweep anymore and throw to Blue Darters wide open behind Mainland db's. Or run misdirection to the weakside and have his backs take it to the house for six. When Mainland wasn't shooting themselves in the foot early on, with untimely penalties, they were did in by some of the strangest offensive play calling ever witnessed by a living Buccaneer. Dozens in the stands, that's right more then 24 of us, couldn't believe our eyes. The muttering of "WTF was that" reverberated through the visiting stands. Any coach, of an upcoming Mainland opponent, that claims he saw a pattern or logic in the play calling is a damn liar. With Apopka burning the clock and their offensive play calling at half throttle, the Bucs pulled within two scores with 5 minutes to go. With time running down we continued to RUN THE BALL, tick,tick. Funny thing is Mainland hadn't been able to RUN THE BALL for the games first 43 minutes. Did I mention this is also the largest offensive line in the history of Mainland High. Problem is they don't play big. Down and dirty is non existent. I got a 4 bedroom house and none of my pillows are this soft. I apologize for being a jerk. Show me something OL......please......Buc Forever

it shows the points each team is awarded for playing the teams on their schedule.
 

1A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 1A Master Schedules.pdf
2A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 2A Master Schedules.pdf
3A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 3A Master Schedules.pdf
4A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 4A Master Schedules.pdf
5A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 5A Master Schedules.pdf
6A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 6A Master Schedules.pdf
7A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 7A Master Schedules.pdf
8A
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/orig_uploads/sports/football/archives/2017-18/Class 8A Master Schedules.pdf
 
 

A KO Classic is still a preseason game. Not much different than a scrimmage. The purpose is not specifically to win the game but to get all of your players on the field, evaluate them, and test out your plays. The game is pretty meaningless as quite a few playoff and championship teams have lost their KO Classic games and sometimes by a whole lot. Any coach that leaves his starters in for the entire classic game and treats the game as a regular season game, is not a very good coach in my estimation.

I will say i watched Trenton vs Columbia all the way through and was impressed with how we played a consistent playoff team in Trenton but i saw that both teams have a way to go,  Trenton appears to be down from last year but not by too much and i watched it from Trenton side of stands and outside of 1 lady who was Extremly hostile responsive to me after eavesdropping on a conversation i was having with a columbia parent from last year until the columbia parent basically told them to stop acting hostile and watch the game 
 
 
Outside of that one fan i will say the Trenton fans i talked to throughout the game were all class and i got to talk about both teams so i wish Trenton luck this year 
 
I would have spoke to Fort White fans but i felt weak from sunburnt so missed most of first half of game, i saw Fort White score than i came back out halfway through it and watched the rest 
 
Should be good game between Fort White and Trenton next week

yes they won 21-7 but lets tell the whole story the last Td was vs are entire jv when you guys kept in your starting varsity bud. Second we played the entire day with out starting RB. New coming in with  the secondary would be a weak spot Columbia passed decent verse us and are secondary looked like first year players out there. what I love is how before the game Columbia runs to our side line jawing and trash talking for the game then we get ball and run 3 run plays for 80yds  and score then there wasn't a peep from your sideline rest of the game. Also I see why they hold these refree clinics cause there was some terrible calls being made out there guess the refs need reps to lol. All in all was a good day seen a lot we can build on.

It's almost here it been a long time coming but y'all know who I'm riding with to win 4A State Championship this season Glades Central Raiders let's argue! Lol good luck to everyone team and pray every player stay healthy! 

Oh crap i did, my bad brah 
 
I should have had you texted me so i could say hi lol i went back and forth a bit,  i saw end of first game with Fort White and Dixie county 
 

First of all Fort White started the trash talking on twitter for months now so that was retaliation 
 
Second at this stage everyone,  columbia included have room to improve but it's nice getting to play Fort white, i missed half it though bc i was getting sunburnt so i cooled off in coaching office 

Columbia beats Fort White 21-7 and I'm leaving now bc i got sunburnt 

You didn't come holla though lol 

Here are the schools hosting ref clinics this Saturday: 
Chiles
South Walton
Wewahitchka
Columbia
Buchholz
First Coast
Ed White
Oakleaf
Lake Weir
Astronaut
Mainland
Springstead
Leesburg
Lake Howell
Wekiva
St. Cloud
Plant
George Jenkins
First Baptist
Venice
Cardinal Newman
McArthur
Columbus