Jambun82

Cat Scratch, the game cannot end on an accepted defensive penalty. If time runs out during a play that has an accepted defensive penalty, an untimed down is played. The time is NOT put back on the clock.

Perspective, believe it or not, most officials would possibly prefer to have a 17 year old child asking them about a rule than an out-of-control coach. That 17 year old child would not be yelling that he is being held or about anything, because that player would be watching from the sidelines if he did. Trust me on that. Most coaches, in my experience, do not know the rules well enough to be evaluating officials, although some do, and are widely respected. There will always be coaches who have the complete respect and deference of most officials. However, there a lot of coaches who one sometimes wonder how they got these jobs, and whose opinion officials don't care about one bit. That is a fact. Also, basketball, in my view, is a lot harder to officiate than football for many reasons. If your father was a good basketball official, he would have been a good football official, if he liked the sport enough. Yelling in itself is not really an issue for the reasons that you stated. It is the tone of voice of the coach, and the language being used.

This a great point and post Legion37.

What is BS about it Jags904? Did you attend the game? Do you see what happened? Did you hear what happened? Where is the pathetic abuse of power? What absolutely awful things have you heard or seen officials doing?  What do you report to the FHSAA?

I believe that is what most officials would say why they officiate. To give back to the sport, and stay involved with football.

If the snap was a little high, the holder has some leeway to take his knee off the ground to retrieve the ball, and then get back on his knee to place the ball for the kicker. If the snap is normal, and the holder fumbles the ball, and gets off his knee, then the play would be dead immediately if the holder put his knee back on the ground.

The instance of Daytona Beach Mainland was that the talent was always there, but there was a lot of apathy, and most of the kids in that area had to work. When Doug Stanley became the Head Coach in 1989, he was able to go into the community, talk to employers, and get the talented kids to play football. Mainland was a sleeping giant until that point. Dan in Daytona would be able to expound on this point.

The instance of Daytona Beach Mainland was that the talent was always there, but there was a lot of apathy, and most of the kids in that area had to work. When Doug Stanley became the Head Coach in 1989, he was able to go into the community, talk to employers, and get the talented kids to play football. Mainland was a sleeping giant until that point. Dan in Daytona would be able to expound on this point.

Peezy is a great addition. He is a solid, stand-up man, who always adds a lot.

These scrimmages are similar to the officiating  clinics that the FHSAA used to request of officials to be able to officiate the playoffs.  The scrimmages are a great help.

I get the feeling that there is a lot of mutual respect between Northwestern and Central players and fans.

I get the feeling that there is a lot of mutual respect between Northwestern and Central players and fans.

OldSchoolLion, thank you very much for posting this game. I will never forget attending this game as a High School Senior with most of our football team. We were sitting on the Southeast side, and I remember very well the cockiness of the Seminole fans turning to nervousness as Daunte Culpepper lead the Knights down the field, especially his scramble on fourth and 17 I believe for a first down. Also, the joy when the Vanguard kicker missed the field goal at the end of the game. It was a great experience.  

Glen Ridge, New Jersey is where the sexual assault of the mentally disabled teenager by several football players was covered up by the town powers-that-be. There was a movie starring Ally Sheedy and Eric Stoltz made about that incident.

No problem. I had heard from somewhere that that game was extremely well-officiated despite the 63-0 score.

OldSchoolLion, are you sure that the Bolles-Umatilla game was in 2013, not 2014?

Great point OldSchoolLion. You, and so many other knowledgeable posters on this message board always make me look forward to checking out what great subject of Florida High School Football is going to be discussed next. Of course dealing with that poster acting like a child is never easy, but I appreciate your patience. I just don't think that you will ever be able to get though to him.   

I remember attending this game on a bitterly cold Saturday Afternoon in December. This was the last year that the state title games were in Daytona Beach until this year. What an upset. I could be mistaken, but I believe that the Bolles FB was injured very early in this game, and didn't play anymore. I remember going home from this game and watching the VCR tape of the Bill Parcells Patriots coming back to beat the Dan Reeves Giants 23-22, which was being played the same time as this game.

I remember attending this game on a bitterly cold Saturday Afternoon in December. This was the last year that the state title games were in Daytona Beach until this year. What an upset. I could be mistaken, but I believe that the Bolles FB was injured very early in this game, and didn't play anymore. I remember going home from this game and watching the VCR tape of the Bill Parcells Patriots coming back to beat the Dan Reeves Giants 23-22, which was being played the same time as this game.

I remember attending this game on a bitterly cold Saturday Afternoon in December. This was the last year that the state title games were in Daytona Beach until this year. What an upset. I could be mistaken, but I believe that the Bolles FB was injured very early in this game, and didn't play anymore. I remember going home from this game and watching the VCR tape of the Bill Parcells Patriots coming back to beat the Dan Reeves Giants 23-22, which was being played the same time as this game.

What about Wilber Marshall?

Prior to Gerald Odom becoming the Head Coach at Cocoa in 2002, the Tigers had a heavy set man as Head Coach who would run all kinds of trick formations and weird plays instead of concentrating on being fundamentally sound. The High School Principal at that time also wouldn't back up any discipline for the kids so good coaches wouldn't consider coaching there even though the school always has athletes and potential. Rockledge and Cocoa have an rivalry and compete for players I believe. Dan Burke always had a good program at Palm Bay. The book on the Pirates was that the team ran about five plays from two different formations, but they still couldn't be stopped because they were fundamentally sound and had great personnel.     

Yes, Jermaine Green played for the Washington State Cougars. He played in the Rose Bowl when WSU lost to Oklahoma.

OldSchoolLion,  it is great to see that you are featuring Volusia County players in your Who is this Florida football legend series. I hope that you will continue that. Thank you.

Dan, Seabreeze used a four receiver-no tight end formation under Rocky Yocum. It might not have been the "spread" offense per se, but it was very close. When Coach Yocum got to Spruce Creek, the Hawks were a more multiple formation, motion, and shifts team that ran the ball more due to the personnel, (they were coming off of back-to back 0-10 seasons)  and the fact that Jermaine Green was one of the RBs.